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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:24 am 
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Yeah, they omitted that blacks were banned because of Halas.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:31 am 
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Yeah, they omitted that blacks were banned because of Halas.


I'm more bothered by the Bears using the players and a charity as a shield for their racist history than I am the fact that GSH played a role in minorities being banned from the league for 12 years.

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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Yeah, they omitted that blacks were banned because of Halas.


As the poster, America refers to as "The good ole days"


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Yeah, they omitted that blacks were banned because of Halas.


I'm more bothered by the Bears using the players and a charity as a shield for their racist history than I am the fact that GSH played a role in minorities being banned from the league for 12 years.


I hate to burst your bubble, but pretty much everybody hated blacks in the 1930's. Even FDR, not a fan.


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Yeah, they omitted that blacks were banned because of Halas.


I'm more bothered by the Bears using the players and a charity as a shield for their racist history than I am the fact that GSH played a role in minorities being banned from the league for 12 years.


I hate to burst your bubble, but pretty much everybody hated blacks in the 1930's. Even FDR, not a fan.


I'm aware of the general feeling of the country around the time America was great. That part of Bears history doesn't bother me, this video does.

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It is a fucking awkward video. The white guys have a look, like Hicks wants to kill them.


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Nas wrote:

I'm aware of the general feeling of the country around the time America was great. That part of Bears history doesn't bother me, this video does.

General consensus is that the thirties were not great and the forties would not have been any better had we* not won.


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What a bunch of unadulterated CRAP.

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What a bunch of unadulterated CRAP.


Which part?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:21 am 
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The video was weird and stupid.

Bears: We apologize that fucking white people were racist mother fuckers in the 1930s. But it's a cool ass jersey. And we are gonna auction some of them off to fight racism. Which is bad. Once again, hating black people is bad. Thank you.


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Kinda funny that the team's Social Justice Committee has to explain why what they're doing isn't racist and offensive.

I like the socks and the hemlets.


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They look like Sally's dress from a nightmare before christmas if it was made with candy corn.

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What a bunch of unadulterated CRAP.


Which part?


There is no written evidence that George Halas was behind not allowing black players being allowed to play for a time. It was Marshall with the Redskins who led the charge of not allowing blacks on the field. No one has any solid evidence indicting Halas who many black players including the immortal Sayers had nothing but respect and love for. This stuff is unadulterated CRAP. If someone has hard evidence of George Halas urging the owners to ban black players then present it. No one has done it. Halas denied that he did it and no one has been able to prove otherwise.

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This article certainly doesn't paint a pretty picture.

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2019/ ... ck-players

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“What makes the NFL so unique is that it’s a full-fledged league and it starts off integrated,” says professor, author and historian Louis Moore, whose work includes the podcast The Black Athlete. “What you’re hinting at is the historical amnesia that we do have.”

From the league’s inaugural season of 1920 until 1933, black players not only played — they dominated. All-Pro halfback Fritz Pollard led the league’s first champions, the Akron Pros; the next year, he became player-coach. Tackle Duke Slater was among the most decorated players in the league of his day, honored in six seasons on an All-Pro team. End Inky Williams of Hammond earned All-Pro honors in 1923. Ten years later, the final full-time black player before the ban, Joe Lillard, led his Cardinals in rushing yards, passing yards, total yards and points.

And then suddenly, they were all gone. There was no press release. Nothing on paper. Over the years, the owners involved maintained that no such ban ever occurred. Halas in particular twice offered implausible explanations as to why the league had black players during its first 14 years and none for the next 12.

In an interview for the 1970 book “The Game That Was” by longtime Steelers broadcaster Myron Cope, Halas claimed that he didn’t know why black players were out of the league for 12 years, but speculated that, “Probably it was due to the fact that no great black players were in colleges then.” He also told Cope that there was no ban, “in no way, shape or form.”

And in an interview with the L.A. Times in 1976, Halas again said that he didn’t know why the NFL had 12 years of all-white football, but posited that, “probably the game didn’t have the appeal to black players at the time. Probably they didn’t realize the possibilities of the game at the time.”

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The Hawk wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
What a bunch of unadulterated CRAP.


Which part?


There is no written evidence that George Halas was behind not allowing black players being allowed to play for a time. It was Marshall with the Redskins who led the charge of not allowing blacks on the field. No one has any solid evidence indicting Halas who many black players including the immortal Sayers had nothing but respect and love for. This stuff is unadulterated CRAP. If someone has hard evidence of George Halas urging the owners to ban black players then present it. No one has done it. Halas denied that he did it and no one has been able to prove otherwise.


Seems like while Halas wasn't a vocal one pushing for exclusion of black players, he undoubtedly went along silently with it while making silly excuses.

But the video didn't seem to blame Halas.

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Get rid of the Bears. Get rid of football.


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why this dissent was ever being dignified with a response is beyond me

Not a peep for decades of throw back uniforms in baseball

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why this dissent was ever being dignified with a response is beyond me

Not a peep for decades of throw back uniforms in baseball


Honestly. We have to make special videos to wear jerseys from another era? The cloth bears original sin.

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Get rid of the Bears. Get rid of football.

Probably better ideas than you think.

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Best idea is get rid of the McCaskeys.


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good dolphin wrote:
why this dissent was ever being dignified with a response is beyond me

Not a peep for decades of throw back uniforms in baseball


Because times have changed. A rape or sexual assault allegation didn't cost you your career less than 15 years ago. A racist past wasn't a career killer either.

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Get rid of the Bears. Get rid of football.


This. If we are to play by The New Rules, football has to go.


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Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
why this dissent was ever being dignified with a response is beyond me

Not a peep for decades of throw back uniforms in baseball


Because times have changed. A rape or sexual assault allegation didn't cost you your career less than 15 years ago. A racist past wasn't a career killer either.

And in baseball, they called the black guys Chief* and said they were Choctaw. :lol:

* and Babe


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good dolphin wrote:
why this dissent was ever being dignified with a response is beyond me

Not a peep for decades of throw back uniforms in baseball


Because times have changed. A rape or sexual assault allegation didn't cost you your career less than 15 years ago. A racist past wasn't a career killer either.

And in baseball, they called the black guys Chief* and said they were Choctaw. :lol:

* and Babe


:lol: :lol: I love the "debate" about Babe being black.

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Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
why this dissent was ever being dignified with a response is beyond me

Not a peep for decades of throw back uniforms in baseball


Because times have changed. A rape or sexual assault allegation didn't cost you your career less than 15 years ago. A racist past wasn't a career killer either.


The NFL sits there to this day with a team called the Redskins. I think the Bears could have weathered a non response

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good dolphin wrote:
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why this dissent was ever being dignified with a response is beyond me

Not a peep for decades of throw back uniforms in baseball


Because times have changed. A rape or sexual assault allegation didn't cost you your career less than 15 years ago. A racist past wasn't a career killer either.


The NFL sits there to this day with a team called the Redskins. I think the Bears could have weathered a non response


I personally would have felt better without their response. No real fan was going to love the team any less. I still love the Sox and Cubs despite their history too. They should have ignored it.

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Throw back, or throw away? They ought to just throw them away. They replaced them because they came up with vastly superior designs. Just a stupid gimmick.

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Spaulding wrote:
Best idea is get rid of the McCaskeys.


Take it back Spaulding!!

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