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OK,first I like Lovie. He has now surpassed Dick Jauron as the most comatose personality ever to coach anything in our city. Your QB gets drilled into the ground and gets his helmet ripped off on another play. Moore gets his neck yanked while running at full speed and all you can say is "Well,that's going to happen" ????

You think that nonchalant shit goes over big in the lockerroom??
My God,man show a pulse!!

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What did you want him to say? Does some crazy Mike Gundy like response help the Bears win the Super Bowl? I am tired of people acting like Lovie does not care about winning or his players because it is not Mike Ditka. You want to tell me he is not a great in-game coach, fine. But, his response to meatball issues like this have nothing to do with his ability to lead the team on Sunday.

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OK,first I like Lovie. He has now surpassed Dick Jauron as the most comatose personality ever to coach anything in our city. Your QB gets drilled into the ground and gets his helmet ripped off on another play. Moore gets his neck yanked while running at full speed and all you can say is "Well,that's going to happen" ????

You think that nonchalant shit goes over big in the lockerroom??
My God,man show a pulse!!


Come on Jimmy. Lovie is 4 times the coach Jauron ever was. He does not need to show a bunch of fire and passion. The teams always plays hard for him, so obviously everything that needs to go over big in the lockeroom is getting accomplished.

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jimmypasta wrote:
OK,first I like Lovie. He has now surpassed Dick Jauron as the most comatose personality ever to coach anything in our city. Your QB gets drilled into the ground and gets his helmet ripped off on another play. Moore gets his neck yanked while running at full speed and all you can say is "Well,that's going to happen" ????

You think that nonchalant shit goes over big in the lockerroom??
My God,man show a pulse!!


Come on Jimmy. Lovie is 4 times the coach Jauron ever was. He does not need to show a bunch of fire and passion. The teams always plays hard for him, so obviously everything that needs to go over big in the lockeroom is getting accomplished.


Could not agree more. There is a segment of the population that has this image about what Bears coach should look like and act. Lovie does not fit this mold. Remember why people wanted Russ Grim--because he mispronounced McCaskey and because he sort of looked like Ditka. When Russ Grim gets a head coaching job let me know. It just infuriates me that people cite Lovie's lack of "fire" for reasons to not like him. If Lovie were to quit at the end of the year, he would be one of the top candidates on the market. He is not perfect, but is he a very good coach. The only thing he has not done is win a Super Bowl. Cut the guy some slack.

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Do people really equate Lovie's wet noodle personality with his ability to coach? I don't. I think the point people are making is that public figures who are engaging & able to speak well in public are a lot more interesting than guys like Lovie. That's all. People who are popular are popular because of their personality. That's just the way it is.
Lovie is a decent coach, but he is a god awful orator. There isn't a person in the world who would disagree with that. I still crack up over the fact that Lovie's lone TV commercial is for Nyquil. Frankly, I'm surprised that he took that deal.

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You know who I miss? John Shoop.


No one misses John Shoop.

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No one misses John Shoop.

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Hey,any coach who acts like he is on NYQUIL while his QB is getting pounded into the ground is either comatose or NOT a former NFL player. That reaction by him is total Bulllllshiiit!!. Don't give me this "meatball" shit either. It's just wrong,PLAIN and SIMPLE. I have no problem with Lovie or his calm demeaner 95% of the time.
Despite what many on here think of me,I'm not a meatball (but have meatball tendencies). C'mon man...somebody is trying to cripple your guys by playing OUTSIDE of the rules. The very least,he should have slapped Shwantz hard on the back at midfield after the game.

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And Lovie getting upset would have accomplished what?

The Bears were obviously already pissed at the Lions for the first game of the year. They came out and kicked the crap out of them.

Lovie getting mad would have done nothing.

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And Lovie getting upset would have accomplished what?

The Bears were obviously already pissed at the Lions for the first game of the year. They came out and kicked the crap out of them.

Lovie getting mad would have done nothing.

Yeah Lovie just embarrassed their football team on the field. Shchwartz was the one who looked like a petulent dumbass when he kept dropping Stafford back to pass in a meaningless game. He was just begging for the Bears to end his season for a 3rd straight year

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And Lovie getting upset would have accomplished what?

The Bears were obviously already pissed at the Lions for the first game of the year. They came out and kicked the crap out of them.

Lovie getting mad would have done nothing.

I'm not sure how much it has to do with the first game of the season but I agree. The Bears were clearly just pushing the Lions around the field and even when the Lions turned dirty the Bears still kept punching them in the mouth. Lovie didn't have to do anything to provoke that, the Bears defense is second probably only to the Ravens and maybe Pittsburgh in governing themselves. And that's been slowly translating to the offense as well.

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We have no idea what kind of demeanor Lovie shows in the locker room. Maybe he gets all fired up. I doubt it but
this team follows this guy into battle every week and are playing well. I'd be hesitant to question anything this
guy does. A lot of people thought this team would be sub .500. Are they? Is he boring to the general public?
Yes, but I'd rather have that than a loudmouth like Rex Ryan who can't back up anything that comes out of his
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Hey,any coach who acts like he is on NYQUIL while his QB is getting pounded into the ground is either comatose or NOT a former NFL player. That reaction by him is total Bulllllshiiit!!. Don't give me this "meatball" shit either. It's just wrong,PLAIN and SIMPLE. I have no problem with Lovie or his calm demeaner 95% of the time.
Despite what many on here think of me,I'm not a meatball (but have meatball tendencies). C'mon man...somebody is trying to cripple your guys by playing OUTSIDE of the rules. The very least,he should have slapped Shwantz hard on the back at midfield after the game.

The players absolutely LOVE playing for Lovie.

He doesnt need to meatball it up for the cameras. How do you know he didnt go crazy over it in private?

Showing he's pissed off to the fans does nothing.


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Phil McCracken wrote:
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You know who I miss? John Shoop.


No one misses John Shoop.

Friends don't let friends John Shoop


John Shoop and his bulging eyeballs is proving himself a pretty competent offensive coach in college

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John Shoop and his bulging eyeballs is proving himself a pretty competent offensive coach in college

Against college defenses.

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John Shoop and his bulging eyeballs is proving himself a pretty competent offensive coach in college

Against college defenses.

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There are weeks where Lovie's defense looks undisciplined and flat.


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There are weeks where Lovie's defense looks undisciplined and flat.


What does that have to do with him being like Jauron and needing to be a meatball?

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Lovie outdicks Jauron


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RFDC wrote:
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There are weeks where Lovie's defense looks undisciplined and flat.


What does that have to do with him being like Jauron and needing to be a meatball?


Tbone said I doubt it but this team follows this guy into battle every week and are playing well. I'd be hesitant to question anything this guy does.

I disagree. I thought his decision to keep Cutler and Forte in on Sunday was really poor. There's lots of questions for what he does, probably 2 or 3 every sunday.

I know somebody said Lovie's defense will always appear gimmicky even if it's not...Not sure I agree with that either.


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So you want Lovie to be a bigger meatball too?

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Spaulding wrote:
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There are weeks where Lovie's defense looks undisciplined and flat.


What does that have to do with him being like Jauron and needing to be a meatball?


Tbone said I doubt it but this team follows this guy into battle every week and are playing well. I'd be hesitant to question anything this guy does.

I disagree. I thought his decision to keep Cutler and Forte in on Sunday was really poor. There's lots of questions for what he does, probably 2 or 3 every sunday.

I know somebody said Lovie's defense will always appear gimmicky even if it's not...Not sure I agree with that either.


Spaulding, you may not like the way he is doing things but you can't argue with the results. I don't see why you don't
like what he is doing. Has he made some questionable calls and does he waste challenges occasionally? Yes, but what
coach doesn't? I personally like his easy going demeanor. He has a solid staff around him that seems to be pulling
this team into a solid unit. What does pulling your 2 best players prove during the game last week? I like that he didn't
step off the gas. It is a divisional rival and you needed to kick their asses.

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Spaulding wrote:
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There are weeks where Lovie's defense looks undisciplined and flat.


What does that have to do with him being like Jauron and needing to be a meatball?


Tbone said I doubt it but this team follows this guy into battle every week and are playing well. I'd be hesitant to question anything this guy does.

I disagree. I thought his decision to keep Cutler and Forte in on Sunday was really poor. There's lots of questions for what he does, probably 2 or 3 every sunday.

I know somebody said Lovie's defense will always appear gimmicky even if it's not...Not sure I agree with that either.


The defense for keeping those guys in the game is that the Lions have already come back from down 20 to win twice this season. It's fair to question Lovie's tactics week to week but it's hard to argue he should have gotten more out of this Bears team than he has in his tenure here.

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The defense for keeping those guys in the game is that the Lions have already come back from down 20 to win twice this season.

Except that the Bears were up by 30 with less than 11 minutes to play on Sunday and Cutler was still handing the ball off to Forte.

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The defense for keeping those guys in the game is that the Lions have already come back from down 20 to win twice this season.

Except that the Bears were up by 30 with less than 11 minutes to play on Sunday and Cutler was still handing the ball off to Forte.

I guess Lovie didn't trust the lights out defense.

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The defense for keeping those guys in the game is that the Lions have already come back from down 20 to win twice this season.

Except that the Bears were up by 30 with less than 11 minutes to play on Sunday and Cutler was still handing the ball off to Forte.

During another one of Lovie's wins that propels the team into the driver seat for the playoffs and a possible bye? Seems he's always doing that.

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