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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:15 am 
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I think Wood was really spectacular at times. Other times he was seemingly just a guy. I wonder if the legend would be so big if he wasn't a Cub?


Well, there aren't many guys who throw as hard as Wood did and have a couple plus plus off-speed pitches to go along with that, including a curveball that might have made Bert Blyleven jealous. But I'm sure being a Cub made him more high profile.

Jose Contreras did more from mid-'05 through '06 than Wood did in his whole career and he's a forgotten guy.

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I think Wood was really spectacular at times. Other times he was seemingly just a guy. I wonder if the legend would be so big if he wasn't a Cub?


Well, there aren't many guys who throw as hard as Wood did and have a couple plus plus off-speed pitches to go along with that, including a curveball that might have made Bert Blyleven jealous. But I'm sure being a Cub made him more high profile.

Jose Contreras did more from mid-'05 through '06 than Wood did in his whole career and he's a forgotten guy.


I guess that is what I mean. I really never got the over the top love. It might be interesting to get the take of someone who didn't live in Chicago the first 2/3 of his career.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:25 am 
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Jose Contreras did more from mid-'05 through '06 than Wood did in his whole career and he's a forgotten guy.
Not by me. In this day and age, I don't know if we will ever see as dominant a stretch for a calender year by a SP again.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:30 am 
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Jose Contreras did more from mid-'05 through '06 than Wood did in his whole career and he's a forgotten guy.
Not by me. In this day and age, I don't know if we will ever see as dominant a stretch for a calender year by a SP again.

Contreras was great, but I think will see it again.

We've already seen it with Halladay


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:43 am 
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Jose Contreras did more from mid-'05 through '06 than Wood did in his whole career and he's a forgotten guy.
Not by me. In this day and age, I don't know if we will ever see as dominant a stretch for a calender year by a SP again.


Just wait until Gavin Floyd figures it out.

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The guy was a china doll for a reason. Whether or not you like Steve Stone, he and a few others have indicated that coaches tried to help him with his release because he was throwing across his body and putting extra stress on the arm. He didn't listen. He will never be much more than a waste of talent to me.


But that's crazy. The reason he was so dominating was exactly because of the way he threw. If he had a different delivery we wouldn't even be talking about him.


I don't think its crazy. I'm sure pitchers make tweaks to their delivery in the off-season. The question is, if he did lose some action on his pitches and learned to mix up his pitches like a dominating pitcher does, would he have been able to pitch for longer and won more games? Secondary to this, he never really learned how to avoid that one inning of being shelled early on.

It is crazy.

When Wood didnt have the terrible motion across his body he was just a guy


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One time at a game some moron Cardinals fan was yelling things implying him and Prior let's just say were very special to each other.

I told the idiot I knew the men and would gladly introduce him to them so he could tell them that. He declined.

So you happily lie to complete strangers? Interesting. That is one of the first signs of a law breaking terrorist. Is there something you want to tell us?

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I'd say anything to his face. It would be awesome to be punched by Kerry Wood.

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Juicer, not a fan of his...glad he is gone.


Not even close, unless the juice was beer.


So every Sox player ever is under suspicion, but Kerry is a definite no? Okay. :roll:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:18 am 
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Juicer, not a fan of his...glad he is gone.

When are you checking out BTW?







Probably sometime around 2055 ....so about 20 years after you .....
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I think on some random death clock it said Dec.28 2038. Maybe by then you will have had an intelligent post. But I doubt it.Thanks for playing312.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:52 am 
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If not for the lack of some combination of talent, drive, discipline, gender, pedigree, resources and luck any one of us could have been the best of our generation.


True but on one given day he might have been the best ever, not many can say that. No matter what you do.


Phil Humber your table w/Wood is ready :wink:

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I agree. Screw his .171 batting average.

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^ that's actually pretty good for a pitcher.

Wood, Floyd: classic "throwers"
2006 Contreras: Pitcher

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^ that's actually pretty good for a pitcher.

Wood, Floyd: classic "throwers"
2006 Contreras: Pitcher


I don't consider Floyd just a thrower. His stuff is good but not good like Wood's was at his best. Wood didn't need to think too much. He could get you out with whatever he wanted to throw. A man cannot hit what a man cannot see. Floyd has a plan out there. His only problem is consistent location of his curveball.

What you saw with Contreras in '06 was just a little taste of the guy he really was. He was close to 40 at the time and well past his prime. You never saw his best in the big leagues. If he had played his entire career in the majors he'd be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

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