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tommy

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:44 pm

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

tommy wrote:

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

FrankDrebin wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

So people were just looking for an excuse to go crazy, and George Floyd gave them that reason.

That's honest at least.

Thanks for that.

Bingo. Nothing wrong with protesting, but rioting is another story.

Unless protesting involves taking a knee. Then it’s an affront to America.

Well, a lot of people place tremendous value on hearing the anthem before games. It's something many people value. Kap was fully aware of this. He even began kneeling out of respect (rather than sitting down).

This should have been a win-win for American culture.

A win-win? What kind of message is: we don't have to change you have to change. We are separate from the rest of you. The anthem is meant to bring people together. To reject the brotherhood of American citizenship and tell an outright lie like the police are targeting black men for death does far more damage than good. That lie is why cities around the country are burning.

Win-win. Means we have room for lots of people to express their opinions.

The anthem brings people together. I mentioned that people value the anthem. Some value it for the ability to bring us together, some to remind us of the political and cultural values that allow for dissent.

I've never seen anyone rage post as much as you. It's too bad, because you have things to say.

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:45 pm

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It's a shame Chicago's mayor is nowhere to be found.

Maybe it'll be later today since there's large crowds not social distancing on Lake Shore Drive.

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Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:47 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

tommy wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

tommy wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

This is one of the more remarkable moments in the history of cable television:

"It looks as if the system cannot reform itself. We tried black faces in high places. We got a neofascist gangster in the White House....We got a neoliberal wing of the Democratic party that's in the driver's seat now with the collapse of Brother Bernie, and they don't know what to do either except show more black faces, show more black faces. But often times these black faces are losing legitimacy too...."

Cornel West on the crisis of American institutional legitimacy:

Cooper asked some tough questions there which forced West to really hone his argument, to be precise and not paint in enormous generalities. Hats off to AC.

What are the "enormous generalities" that make you so uncomfortable? Please be precise and hone your argument.

Start with the first thing he said: This was a lynching.

Um, no. It wasn't.

So that's your point? You disagree with West's use of the term "lynching"? Do you also disagree with the belief that this incident was racially charged? How should West have described this incident to suit you?

What made it racially charged other than the respective races on those involved?

Would it have been less bad had it been a white officer and a white victim?

I think the general feeling is that your scenario wouldn’t have ended the same way.

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Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:52 pm

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tommy wrote:

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

Antarctica wrote:

LTG, the guy is in jail. He's booked for murder charges, that's pretty fucking serious stuff. His life as he knew it is over.

And if someone hadn’t recorded the murder he’d still be patrolling the streets. That’s the real problem. Even if a 1/2 dozen people witnessed it happen and complained to the police the official story would still be he died while resisting arrest and that would be the end of it.

I used to roll my eyes when people talked about those apps which would instantly upload an encounter with the cops (or any encounter, I guess), but now I'm kind of like . . . it might be a good idea to have one of those, despite privacy and context concerns.

Yeah it seems like nothing will happen unless something is recorded.

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Tall Midget

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:53 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

tommy wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

tommy wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Cooper asked some tough questions there which forced West to really hone his argument, to be precise and not paint in enormous generalities. Hats off to AC.

What are the "enormous generalities" that make you so uncomfortable? Please be precise and hone your argument.

Start with the first thing he said: This was a lynching.

Um, no. It wasn't.

What made it racially charged other than the respective races on those involved?

Would it have been less bad had it been a white officer and a white victim?

Do you think blacks are treated the same as whites by police?

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Rod

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:54 pm

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

What made it racially charged other than the respective races on those involved?

Would it have been less bad had it been a white officer and a white victim?

I think the general feeling is that your scenario wouldn’t have ended the same way.

That is the feeling. It's not based in fact though. Cops kill white people in handcuffs too. Remember Tony Timpa? The media doesn't sell the story the same way. They can't.

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Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:56 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

It's a shame Chicago's mayor is nowhere to be found.

Maybe it'll be later today since there's large crowds not social distancing on Lake Shore Drive.

Leave it to the professionals like General Sherman

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:00 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

Do you think blacks are treated the same as whites by police?

As a rule, no

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Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:00 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

That is the feeling. It's not based in fact though. Cops kill white people in handcuffs too. Remember Tony Timpa? The media doesn't sell the story the same way. They can't.

Duncan Lemp isn't on anybody's radar as far as I can tell.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

You and Brother West are a step behind. The latest narrative is that the people in the street are white supremacists.

Who do you think was behind it?

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Tall Midget

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:01 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

What made it racially charged other than the respective races on those involved?

Would it have been less bad had it been a white officer and a white victim?

I think the general feeling is that your scenario wouldn’t have ended the same way.

That is the feeling. It's not based in fact though. Cops kill white people in handcuffs too. Remember Tony Timpa? The media doesn't sell the story the same way. They can't.

Aren't blacks something like 3 times more likely to die in police custody than whites?

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tommy

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:02 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

What made it racially charged other than the respective races on those involved?

Would it have been less bad had it been a white officer and a white victim?

Do you think blacks are treated the same as whites by police?

Penetrating question! :lol:

So, do you think the other posters here are fourth-graders?

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Tall Midget

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:02 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Do you think blacks are treated the same as whites by police?

As a rule, no

Why are blacks more likely to die in police custody then?

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tommy

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:03 pm

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KDdidit wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

It's a shame Chicago's mayor is nowhere to be found.

Maybe it'll be later today since there's large crowds not social distancing on Lake Shore Drive.

Leave it to the professionals like General Sherman

I wish I still had my Sherman mult....lost the password....

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Tall Midget

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:04 pm

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tommy wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

What made it racially charged other than the respective races on those involved?

Would it have been less bad had it been a white officer and a white victim?

Do you think blacks are treated the same as whites by police?

Penetrating question! :lol:

So, do you think the other posters here are fourth-graders?

I'm not sure what you mean. Terry's Peeps says the cops treat blacks and whites the same. Are you calling him a 4th grader?

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:06 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

tommy wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

What made it racially charged other than the respective races on those involved?

Would it have been less bad had it been a white officer and a white victim?

Do you think blacks are treated the same as whites by police?

Penetrating question! :lol:

So, do you think the other posters here are fourth-graders?

I'm not sure what you mean. Terry's Peeps says the cops treat blacks and whites the same. Are you calling him a 4th grader?

No he doesn't.

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Tall Midget

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:08 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

tommy wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

What made it racially charged other than the respective races on those involved?

Would it have been less bad had it been a white officer and a white victim?

Do you think blacks are treated the same as whites by police?

Penetrating question! :lol:

So, do you think the other posters here are fourth-graders?

I'm not sure what you mean. Terry's Peeps says the cops treat blacks and whites the same. Are you calling him a 4th grader?

No he doesn't.

My bad.

So police treat blacks differently than whites, blacks are more likely to die in police custody than whites, but race wasn't a factor in this case? Is that your argument?

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Rod

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:14 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

What made it racially charged other than the respective races on those involved?

Would it have been less bad had it been a white officer and a white victim?

I think the general feeling is that your scenario wouldn’t have ended the same way.

That is the feeling. It's not based in fact though. Cops kill white people in handcuffs too. Remember Tony Timpa? The media doesn't sell the story the same way. They can't.

Aren't blacks something like 3 times more likely to die in police custody than whites?

I'm not sure of the exact numbers. The data isn't compehensive. Some jurisdictions don't even report: https://journalistsresource.org/studies ... ed-states/

I would argue one is one too many. And there seems to be a disparity. But I think if you look at the numbers you'll see it isn't exactly the epidemic the coverage would suggest.

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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:23 pm

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Truly un amazing that now white supremacist rioters is the new new narrative. Dese guys think we are stupid. Well, OK, their audience is stupid.

Can not let Antifa/Creamer/Soros be blamed.
Now why is Antifa a protected minority? Why?

Only Trump can save us. Of the two parties putting up a candidate for POTUS, only one party can put down Antifa and it ain't their paymasters, the Democrat Party.

Your life your choice.

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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:25 pm

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How many people die in police custody a year?

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tommy

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:28 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

tommy wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

What made it racially charged other than the respective races on those involved?

Would it have been less bad had it been a white officer and a white victim?

Do you think blacks are treated the same as whites by police?

Penetrating question! :lol:

So, do you think the other posters here are fourth-graders?

I'm not sure what you mean. Terry's Peeps says the cops treat blacks and whites the same. Are you calling him a 4th grader?

No he doesn't.

My bad.

So police treat blacks differently than whites, blacks are more likely to die in police custody than whites, but race wasn't a factor in this case? Is that your argument?

Who is arguing that?

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Terry's Peeps

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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:33 pm

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TM, my only argument was against the use of the word lynching.

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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:40 pm

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Tuned in to see what's the coverage and see Chicago got into the act.

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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:52 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Do you think blacks are treated the same as whites by police?

As a rule, no

Why are blacks more likely to die in police custody then?

Poor diet and lack of access to quality health care

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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:53 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Do you think blacks are treated the same as whites by police?

As a rule, no

Why are blacks more likely to die in police custody then?

Where did this statistic come from?

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chaspoppcap wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Do you think blacks are treated the same as whites by police?

As a rule, no

Why are blacks more likely to die in police custody then?

Poor diet and lack of access to quality health care

What the hell do you know about police custody?

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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:57 pm

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chaspoppcap wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Do you think blacks are treated the same as whites by police?

As a rule, no

Why are blacks more likely to die in police custody then?

Poor diet and lack of access to quality health care

Try again.

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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 5:05 pm

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:

chaspoppcap wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Do you think blacks are treated the same as whites by police?

As a rule, no

Why are blacks more likely to die in police custody then?

Poor diet and lack of access to quality health care

What the hell do you know about police custody?

Are you serious?

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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 5:07 pm

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There aren't really stats for this. When TM says more blacks die in police custody that's made up nonsense. The FBI doesn't tally it.

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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 5:11 pm

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chaspoppcap wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Do you think blacks are treated the same as whites by police?

As a rule, no

Why are blacks more likely to die in police custody then?

Poor diet and lack of access to quality health care

Exacty. all the guy had 2 do was cal the number on his Obamacare card when his neck was bein squishd. Fukin libtards and there fox care for blacks.

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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 5:18 pm

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HawaiiYou wrote:

Tuned in to see what's the coverage and see Chicago got into the act.

Groot and fatboy nowhere to be seen. So how long until the new Police Sup gets thrown under the bus and given his walking papers?

Trump does have one thing kinda of correct. Where was the DC police last night at the White House. They where nowhere to be seen

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