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 Post subject: Ryan Dempster
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Nomination to be rescinded if the trade goes thru


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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It's such an honor to play for the Cubs that you can see why these guys refuse to leave

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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DAMN YOU RYAN DEMPSTER! HOW DARE YOU USE YOUR COLLECTIVELY BARGAINED 5/10 RIGHTS TO CONTINUE LIVING IN YOUR HOUSE WITH YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR KIDS WHO GO TO SCHOOL OUT HERE AND DON'T RUN OUT TO ATLANTA TO GET THE CUBS RANDALL DELGADO!!!! JESUS!!! YOU CAN COME BACK HERE AND SIGN FOR A HOMETOWN DISCOUNT WHEN THE SEASON'S OVER BECAUSE YOU OWE ME, JOE CUBS FAN, YOUR SOUL BECAUSE IF YOU THINK WE'RE GONNA CHEER YOU ON WHEN YOU FUCKED US OVER BY HAVING A 2.20 ERA IN LATE JULY AND REFUSING TO LEAVE FOR A MARGINAL PITCHER WHO THE BRAVES HAVE GIVEN UP ON (cuz you lot know the storied history of HOF arms the braves have given up on) MAN... FUCK YOU DEMPSTER HOW DARE YOU USE ANY OF YOUR RIGHTS IN YOUR CONTRACT!!!!! YOU'RE RICH BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE TO ENTERTAIN ME AND WHEN YOU'RE DENYING ME YEARS OF WATCHING RANDALL DELGADO HAVE A 4+ ERA AND A SLIGHTLY SUB-.500 RECORD, YOU'RE NOT ENTERTAINING ME!!! FUCK YOU AND YOUR STUPID HARRY CARAY IMPERSONATION!!!!

that said, his impersonations are really hokey and played out. i'm sick of them. seeing tim kurkjian fake UBERLOL on the sunday brunch baseball tonight was the tipping point where i said "ok, now i've gone from merely being annoyed by this shit to saying FUCK THIS SHIT outright" --- SHOMER SHABBOS!

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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Has there been any legitimate reports that Dempster is actually holding up the trade?

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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RFDC wrote:
Has there been any legitimate reports that Dempster is actually holding up the trade?

This is what I was wondering. I haven't really heard what the deal is.
I also saw reports where the two teams were bickering over $$$?

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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No just speculation.

The leading rumor is that he wants to go to the Dodgers first and foremost.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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spanky wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Has there been any legitimate reports that Dempster is actually holding up the trade?

This is what I was wondering. I haven't really heard what the deal is.
I also saw reports where the two teams were bickering over $$$?

It sounds like the Braves want the money to invoke his option next year without it all coming out of their pocket.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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sinicalypse wrote:
DAMN YOU RYAN DEMPSTER! HOW DARE YOU USE YOUR COLLECTIVELY BARGAINED 5/10 RIGHTS TO CONTINUE LIVING IN YOUR HOUSE WITH YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR KIDS WHO GO TO SCHOOL OUT HERE AND DON'T RUN OUT TO ATLANTA TO GET THE CUBS RANDALL DELGADO!!!! JESUS!!! YOU CAN COME BACK HERE AND SIGN FOR A HOMETOWN DISCOUNT WHEN THE SEASON'S OVER BECAUSE YOU OWE ME, JOE CUBS FAN, YOUR SOUL BECAUSE IF YOU THINK WE'RE GONNA CHEER YOU ON WHEN YOU FUCKED US OVER BY HAVING A 2.20 ERA IN LATE JULY AND REFUSING TO LEAVE FOR A MARGINAL PITCHER WHO THE BRAVES HAVE GIVEN UP ON (cuz you lot know the storied history of HOF arms the braves have given up on)

Dont say youre fine with a trade somewhere and then back out when it happens.
He fucked us over by completely choking in Game 1 of the 2008 playoffs
The Braves have not given up on Delgado.







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MAN... FUCK YOU DEMPSTER HOW DARE YOU USE ANY OF YOUR RIGHTS IN YOUR CONTRACT!!!!! YOU'RE RICH BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE TO ENTERTAIN ME AND WHEN YOU'RE DENYING ME YEARS OF WATCHING RANDALL DELGADO HAVE A 4+ ERA AND A SLIGHTLY SUB-.500 RECORD, YOU'RE NOT ENTERTAINING ME!!! FUCK YOU AND YOUR STUPID HARRY CARAY IMPERSONATION!!!!

Not sure where your Delgado hate is coming from. Nothing he's done in professional baseball has indicated he'll be any worse than what he's projected to be...a #2 starter that might have a #1 type year every now and then

If you are hanging your hat on "The Braves dont give up good talent", Ill just point out that its an entirely different organization than when Scheurholtz was there.


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that said, his impersonations are really hokey and played out. i'm sick of them. seeing tim kurkjian fake UBERLOL on the sunday brunch baseball tonight was the tipping point where i said "ok, now i've gone from merely being annoyed by this shit to saying FUCK THIS SHIT outright" --- SHOMER SHABBOS!

Yeah....thats what im talkin about.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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The leading rumor is that he wants to go to the Dodgers first and foremost.

i hope not. Outside of Lee and possibly the AAA catcher who won't be available for him I do not want the crap they will offer.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
No just speculation.

The leading rumor is that he wants to go to the Dodgers first and foremost.

So.....the leading rumor is that HE IS indeed holding it up


I think him going on Twitter to deny the trade and it being important enough for him to confirm it was him saying it on Twitter, indicates ol Red Beard has a hand in whatever is holding this up.


Im fine with a player using their rights, but once you ok a place, that should be it.
If the Braves are on the OK list, then when a deal is worked out with them, it should be done.

Thats how I look at it, anyway


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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The leading rumor appears to be the teams are bickering over the details.

No need to go 312player on Dempter... yet. If he is the hold up then by all means jump in with both feet.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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Im fine with a player using their rights, but once you ok a place, that should be it.
If the Braves are on the OK list, then when a deal is worked out with them, it should be done.

Thats how I look at it, anyway

If it's the refusal of an extension that is holding it up, then I don't blame him.

It's one thing to agree to go to ______________________ for the rest of the season, but entirely different to then have to go there for x-amount of additional years because the team wants you to.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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Another thing i have read in a few places is that he may very well agree to the deal today but he was being all pissy about it yesterday because the Braves leaked the deal before he was approached by the Cubs to sign off on his 10 5 NTC. That is quite possibly one of the stupidest things to get insulted over and delay the trade. If you are going to sign it then sign the damn thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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spanky wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Im fine with a player using their rights, but once you ok a place, that should be it.
If the Braves are on the OK list, then when a deal is worked out with them, it should be done.

Thats how I look at it, anyway

If it's the refusal of an extension that is holding it up, then I don't blame him.

It's one thing to agree to go to ______________________ for the rest of the season, but entirely different to then have to go there for x-amount of additional years because the team wants you to.


Even if they agree to the extension I thought he can refuse it......though you then have the problem of whichever team signs him having to give up their first round pick or multiple picks or something.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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RFDC wrote:
The leading rumor appears to be the teams are bickering over the details.

No need to go 312player on Dempter... yet. If he is the hold up then by all means jump in with both feet.

Im hearing it more on Dempster wanting to go to the Dodgers


I dont really like Dempster anyway


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
No just speculation.

The leading rumor is that he wants to go to the Dodgers first and foremost.

So.....the leading rumor is that HE IS indeed holding it up


I think him going on Twitter to deny the trade and it being important enough for him to confirm it was him saying it on Twitter, indicates ol Red Beard has a hand in whatever is holding this up.


Im fine with a player using their rights, but once you ok a place, that should be it.
If the Braves are on the OK list, then when a deal is worked out with them, it should be done.

Thats how I look at it, anyway


I was responding to RFDC asking if there was proof.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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This is why the White Sox want nothing to do with him.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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RFDC wrote:
The leading rumor appears to be the teams are bickering over the details.

No need to go 312player on Dempter... yet. If he is the hold up then by all means jump in with both feet.


I heard he wants to pitch for a team that has Spring Training in Arizona. That doesn't make any sense, because both LA and Atlanta are in Florida. My point is we don't know what's going on, and I expect this will get done today. Also, you never go full 312player.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
No just speculation.

The leading rumor is that he wants to go to the Dodgers first and foremost.

So.....the leading rumor is that HE IS indeed holding it up


I think him going on Twitter to deny the trade and it being important enough for him to confirm it was him saying it on Twitter, indicates ol Red Beard has a hand in whatever is holding this up.


Im fine with a player using their rights, but once you ok a place, that should be it.
If the Braves are on the OK list, then when a deal is worked out with them, it should be done.

Thats how I look at it, anyway


I was responding to RFDC asking if there was proof.

Im sorry, Im just trying to get thru this tragic event of the non trade. Im putting the pieces of my life back together....


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Dempster
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Hasn't he earned the right to veto the trade? Why is he a douchebag for exercising his 10/5 rights?

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Maybe this delay was created as a smokescreen to cover Garza getting an MRI and meeting with doctors so mass panic can be avoided or at least prolonged.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Hasn't he earned the right to veto the trade? Why is he a douchebag for exercising his 10/5 rights?

I believe Ive laid that out.


Dempster is a jackass anyway. I have ZERO tolerance for him

Im Dempster intolerant


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Hasn't he earned the right to veto the trade? Why is he a douchebag for exercising his 10/5 rights?

I believe Ive laid that out.


Dempster is a jackass anyway. I have ZERO tolerance for him

Im Dempster intolerant


I agree. That's why I wouldn't want him on my team. Plus he's Canadian.

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He fucked us over by completely choking in Game 1 of the 2008 playoffs.


He just walked another guy.

Game 1 laid the groundwork, but game 2 is when I turned in my fan card. Pathetic.


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RFDC wrote:
Has there been any legitimate reports that Dempster is actually holding up the trade?

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/07/23/braves-trying-to-finalize-trade-for-pitcher-dempster/

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Yeah, the irritation is not that he can exercise his 10/5 rights; it's that he ostensibly agreed to waive those rights for a list of approved teams (Atlanta being one) and now may be holding things up for some reason.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Has there been any legitimate reports that Dempster is actually holding up the trade?

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/07/23/braves-trying-to-finalize-trade-for-pitcher-dempster/


Doesn't sound like he knows either.

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I wish they would have tossed this 10 5 crap from the last labor agreement. Just write in a 2.5 million dollar 10 5 trade bonus that the trading team must credit the player with and be done with it.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
I dont really like Dempster anyway

I was with you until this...he has been the Cubs most consistent pitcher over the last several years. There is no reason to dislike him.

2008 playoffs and his obnoxious unfunny personality work for me.

That was one of the most pathetic performances ever in Game one. He pussied out and walked everybody, after showing exceptional control during the season.


Oh and "getting injured hopping over the railing" doesnt endear him to anyone


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