First of all I hope he's alright, he was on a cruise


Hawk has been known to call Fregosi "the greatest baseball mind there is"



Who is the greatest baseball mind?


So far in my office we've come up with John Schuerholz (mine), Greg Maddux and Joe Torre

Living only, or are the deceased included?

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Joe Sheehan

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Its a pretty broad question as it is, might as well include the dead guys

Joe Cowley

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Oney one choice if you ask me.

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- Henry George

Only 2 managers to win the World Series in both leagues:

Players:








http://www.fangraphs.com/not/a-dozen-mo ... henderson/

Peyton Manning.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

A "great baseball mind" is a paradox. The cool thing about baseball is that nobody can figure it out.

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Earl Weaver

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Bill James

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

ho ho ho....now we'll have some yelling

http://youtu.be/kl-4FSRYagc]

False narrative.

The collective minds of fangraphs and baseball prospectus are the answer, you dumb goober. Fregosi is a mouthbreather, a troglodyte that should be cast into the outer darkness with the detritus of old school baseball minds.

I think you are living too close to I-80, rpb.

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Back off, Warchild. Seriously.

Torre, Leyland, La Russa...best managers of the last generation. Leyland should've won with those stacked early 90's Pirate teams and again with the Tigers team of the last decade.

LaRussa would've walked Ortiz in game 2 of the 2013 ALCS with a 4 run lead and two outs in the 8th/4 outs from going up 2-0 against the Red Sox in their own park. LaRussa would've also had a reliable closer, seeing as he pioneered the whole closing pitcher thing, iirc.

LaRussa would be my pick for manager, but Im taking player evaluation into consideration.


Schuerholz built two great organizations

I loved LaRussa while he was in St. Louis, but his name should have been removed from the "greatest mind" discussion when he decided to bat the pitcher 8th...on two separate occasions...for a sizable chunk of the season.

What year was that?

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I'll have to do some digging but 2002 sticks in my head as one of them...

Just making sure it wasnt 06 or 11

It was 2011.

Bobby Cox

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Off by a few years...

http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/tony-la-russa-and-the-logic-behind-the-lineup/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

Few other managers have adopted La Russa’s strategy, which he used in 1998 and 1999 and resumed extensively in 2007. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, since the start of the 2007 season, La Russa has batted the pitcher eighth in 312 games. Other managers have been nowhere close:

John Russell (50 times)
Ned Yost (42)
Ken Macha (12)
Joe Torre (8)
Bud Black (3)
Bruce Bochy (1)
Trey Hillman (1)
Bob Melvin (1)

And that article was from 2010...so he did it for at least 3 stretches...

I don't remember him doing it that year...if he did it wasn't for a stretch of time...