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Probably plays for 2-3 more years @ least. Hall of Fame bound?

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 Post subject: Re: Aramis Ramirez
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Probably plays for 2-3 more years @ least. Hall of Fame bound?

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Your views on HOF/Legend status of people is really skewed.


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 Post subject: Re: Aramis Ramirez
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Hall of Very Good.


Adrian Beltre gets in though


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 Post subject: Re: Aramis Ramirez
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Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year.

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 Post subject: Re: Aramis Ramirez
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Hall of Very Good.


Adrian Beltre gets in though


Beltre is close. He'll get in eventually but not first ballot.

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 Post subject: Re: Aramis Ramirez
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year.

Look at his numbers, if you haven't, it will be close.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year.

Ease up Hank.

The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible.


Better numbers than Santo, btw


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 Post subject: Re: Aramis Ramirez
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hall of Very Good.


Adrian Beltre gets in though


Beltre is close. He'll get in eventually but not first ballot.

The first ballot thing is dumb. I dont even recognize it.


Beltre is in for sure. No question.


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 Post subject: Re: Aramis Ramirez
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year.

Ease up Hank.

The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible.


Better numbers than Santo, btw


I never thought Santo should be in.

I dont dislike Aramis. I thought he was a good player and I was happy he was on the Cubs. I just dont think he is HoF worthy.

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First ballot thing is really dumb...its either in or out...Beltre is a no doubter ...ARam should get in...I hope he has a huge post season n the Brewers win it all.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hall of Very Good.


Adrian Beltre gets in though


Beltre is close. He'll get in eventually but not first ballot.

The first ballot thing is dumb. I dont even recognize it.


Beltre is in for sure. No question.


I would be happy to see a name only be eligible for 3 years. First ballot guys are the no brainers, after that you have 2 years to convince people and make a case. After that you're out, your stats dont change.

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 Post subject: Re: Aramis Ramirez
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 Post subject: Re: Aramis Ramirez
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year.

Ease up Hank.

The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible.


Better numbers than Santo, btw


I never thought Santo should be in.

I dont dislike Aramis. I thought he was a good player and I was happy he was on the Cubs. I just dont think he is HoF worthy.

Agree for the most part. But 400 homeruns is a lot.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year.

Ease up Hank.

The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible.


Better numbers than Santo, btw


162 game average is not a career average.


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 Post subject: Re: Aramis Ramirez
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year.

Ease up Hank.

The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible.


Better numbers than Santo, btw


162 game average is not a career average.

Obviously. Ill write his 162 game average is for you in the future.

The point remains.

In the last 14 years, he's missed significant time twice and in both those half seasons he had roughly half his 162 game average.


I guess this was one of those "just wanna be a dick" posts


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 Post subject: Re: Aramis Ramirez
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Yeah...that's funny coming from your bitch ass...one of the most worthless posters here..yeah...keep quoting Larry so everyone knows he cannot pronounce E's ...Brilliant !

Hatchetman is hilarious by the way...funnier than Robin Williams too.

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 Post subject: Re: Aramis Ramirez
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Whoever posted the thread about 312PlayerHatchetman being annoying was 100% correct.

Are you saying they are the same person?


Man, that would be awesome. I like them both veary much.


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 Post subject: Re: Aramis Ramirez
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Better numbers than Santo, btw


Not relative to his era though. I couldn't say he was better than Joe Torre or Ken Boyer or even Ventura.

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 Post subject: Re: Aramis Ramirez
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I wasn't around to see Boyer or Torre play...but I saw Ventura...I liked Robin, he was good...Ramirez is much better.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Better numbers than Santo, btw


Not relative to his era though. I couldn't say he was better than Joe Torre or Ken Boyer or even Ventura.

Yeah, those guys are all in the Hall of Very Good


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year.

Ease up Hank.

The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible.


Better numbers than Santo, btw

Too bad half of those numbers are when the Cub were up 7-0! This year actually might be his best year in terms of consistancey from day 1. I just remember too many Aprils and mays batting .189 to put him in the HOF

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I wasn't around to see Boyer or Torre play...but I saw Ventura...I liked Robin, he was good...Ramirez is much better.


Based on what?

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bigfan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year.

Ease up Hank.

The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible.


Better numbers than Santo, btw

Too bad half of those numbers are when the Cub were up 7-0! This year actually might be his best year in terms of consistancey from day 1. I just remember too many Aprils and mays batting .189 to put him in the HOF

Not true. He was clutch as anyone in the division winning/competing years 03/04 07/08

Sandberg had slow starts too. He had ONE year, 2009, when he racked up numbers on a bad Cub team and somehow that got applied to his whole career.


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bigfan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year.

Ease up Hank.

The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible.


Better numbers than Santo, btw

Too bad half of those numbers are when the Cub were up 7-0! This year actually might be his best year in terms of consistancey from day 1. I just remember too many Aprils and mays batting .189 to put him in the HOF

He has had 2 really bad stretches this year, one he went like 2-45 before snapping out of it.

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redskingreg wrote:
Whoever posted the thread about 312PlayerHatchetman being annoying was 100% correct.

Are you saying they are the same person?


Man, that would be awesome. I like them both veary much.


Their posts and avatars bleed into one another, and my head usually hurts after reading anything from either.

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I wasn't around to see Boyer or Torre play...but I saw Ventura...I liked Robin, he was good...Ramirez is much better.


Based on what?




I would give Robin edge in fielding ..Aramis @ The plate...Aramis was an average third baseman with the glove...one of the best hitters in in baseball for years....lotts people liked to dog him in town, he was great when he was here...its not his fault the team sucked and was 12 games out by the end of May.

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I wasn't around to see Boyer or Torre play...but I saw Ventura...I liked Robin, he was good...Ramirez is much better.


Based on what?




I would give Robin edge in fielding ..Aramis @ The plate...Aramis was an average third baseman with the glove...one of the best hitters in in baseball for years....lotts people liked to dog him in town, he was great when he was here...its not his fault the team sucked and was 12 games out by the end of May.


He was never close to being "one of the best hitters in baseball".

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Whoever posted the thread about 312PlayerHatchetman being annoying was 100% correct.

Are you saying they are the same person?


Man, that would be awesome. I like them both veary much.


Their posts and avatars bleed into one another, and my head usually hurts after reading anything from either.

I believe they are both me!

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redskingreg wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
redskingreg wrote:
Whoever posted the thread about 312PlayerHatchetman being annoying was 100% correct.

Are you saying they are the same person?


Man, that would be awesome. I like them both veary much.


Their posts and avatars bleed into one another, and my head usually hurts after reading anything from either.

I believe they are both me!


Could you get rid of them both and bring back Oogie?

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