even if they are someone like Frank who is overwhelmingly supportive of the team he roots for, .

Calling him a franchise QB is officially over after last night. He isn't. He may be one day but he isn't now. A franchise QB doesn't totally destroy any chance your team has to beat a bad team with an inept QB. A franchise QB doesn't lead the league in interceptions by far. A franchise QB knows how to work with his offensive talent or lack therof instead of trying to throw it down the field into double coverage when your WR isn't the type of player that can take it out over multiple defenders.

We can argue individual plays and discount some of his interceptions. This happens to every QB. Sometimes interceptions just aren't your fault but over the course of a season a clear pattern has emerged. If our WR's suck, and we all know they suck, then I would guess that Jay Cutler knows they suck. If Jay knows they suck then stop expecting them to make great plays to break up your interceptions! Even some of those picks that were the "receivers fault" he was still covered. The WR didn't help Jay but when you throw it to a covered WR you need to have a reasonable expectation that your receiver can beat the defender. It's not like these are passes going through hands and tipped in the air. This is a WR covered who was unable to save Cutler by batting down a ball that was thrown to a covered player.

This inconsistency has been true his whole career. It drove people in Denver crazy. It leads to a lot of .500 seasons. I bet Cutler has a great game next week. Then everyone will proclaim that he is awesome and will be awesome in the future. We'll then see this again and again and again. To be honest, I don't think this is fixable just like it wasn't with Rex Grossman. Jay Cutler has no desire to only take what the defense gave him. If he did, Forte would have had 250 yards receiving last night and we win. Instead, he needs to throw it longer.

The other problem is that Jay Cutler is paid as a franchise QB. He was traded for a bunch of valuable picks. We need him to be great because our team is being built around him. There are at least 10 QB's in the league right now who I'd rather have and probably 20 QB's in the league right now playing better.

Jay Cutler is not a franchise QB. He may be one day but he isn't there right now.

At least he has a strong arm though!

How about this?

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IF HE IS A FRANCHISE QB OR NOT!!!!

Either answer is silly at this point. he has shown signs he is and he has shown signs he isn't.

rpb is wrong. Phil McCracken is useful.

RPB is right. You suck.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Hey is Grossman playing this weekend?

Maybe he and Orton will watch the game together. Maybe they'll have Brian Griese over.

Our hotel smelled like dead hooker vagina (before you ask I had gotten a detailed description from beardown)

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Irish Boy thanks foradmitting you rooted for the Packers in the game.

All Orton fans are happy tonight.

You have issues with both logic and reality.