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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:10 pm 
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I have defended Rex all year and would still defend him for improving his choice of throws this year and learning, etc,

BUT YOU CAN'T DROP THE BALL LIKE THAT IN THE NFL. LIKE 8 TIMES THIS YEAR!

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First he opens his mouth, as if he can handle pressure without having himself even more the center of attention.

He just looks like a deer in headlights. He looks like a kid among men.

Ive been sick and goddamn tired of the Grossman apologists all year. We all know that tomorrow they will be out in full force on 670 starting at round 2pm.

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His decision making was bad as well. The first pick, that pass should of never been thrown. The 2nd one, he needs to throw it sooner and let Bernard run under it. Its time to realize, he's just an average quarterback.


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He also needs to learn how to handle pressure - it completely takes him out of his game, and he combusts with both his decision making, and his mechanics.

This off-season, I would do nothing but 7 on 9 drills, where he is blitzed, every play.

I have never seen a QB with such highs and lows. No QB is going to play good/great every game, but his lows have to be below average, not horrible.


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schmitty1121 wrote:
he's just an average quarterback.


I think even thats generous schmitty. Hes undersized, doesn't show the ability to feel a 300lb man coming up from behind or beside him let alone being able to step out of the way. I dont see much of an upside at all with this kid.

He gets love for throwing the deep ball, which honestly is one of the easier things to do, especially when Berrian is almost always wide focking open as has been the case with his long completions. Its not as if hes finessing the ball between defenders 40 yards down the field.

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I need to find that Turnoverasaurus picture. The Turnoverasaurus has returned. Seriously, why can't this man handle a snap cleanly? I have never seen a quarterback who fumbles the snap so frequently.

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Rex's flaws are obvious. 1)He doesn't feel pressure in the pocket. 2)He doesn't recognize blitzes. 3)He reads coverage poorly. 4)He cannot avoid pressure with his feet or keep plays alive by moving outside the pocket. 5)His limited height combined with below average athleticism makes it difficult for him to find throwing lanes consistently.

With a lot of hard work, the impact of many of these flaws can be substantially reduced--at least theoretically. Last night's game showed, however, that he hasn't made much progress in many areas, most notably with his decision-making. While there's still a chance he may eventually become a decent QB, I hope the Bears will draft a more physically gifted QB prospect--and institute a legitimate competition for the starting position at the next training camp. It is painfully obvious that Grossman cannot be the long-term solution to the team's long-standing QB problems.

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the fumbles are unexceptable, I can remember five times this season including the super bowl that rex fumbled a snap. Olin is a pro bowl center and you can't catch his snap. Who the hell do you think you are Rex, Quincy Carter?

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Why didn't he run for the 4 yards when he scrambled out of the pocket instead of trying to throw a ball to Clark in a tight spot?


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Why didn't he run for the 4 yards when he scrambled out of the pocket instead of trying to throw a ball to Clark in a tight spot?


I shit myself when he bought himself some time, I then shit myself again because he threw into triple coverage after buying himself some time.


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I've been a Rex guy all year and I would still contend they don't get to the Super Bowl with Griese, but in the 4th quarter when they needed a play from him, he didn't deliver and there is no defending that.

However, I think it is interesting that if he had just gotten some more air under that one pass to Berrian, then his stats would be something like -

21-28 for 200+ yards 2TD/1int

-then he probably isn't taking polls on whether he is the worst Super Bowl QB ever. They may still not have won but I think he takes much, much less criticism. Just shows that QBs really live on a razor's edge sometimes.

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Why didn't he run for the 4 yards when he scrambled out of the pocket instead of trying to throw a ball to Clark in a tight spot?

That was my exact thought as that play was happening. I think he could have picked it up.

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Why didn't he run for the 4 yards when he scrambled out of the pocket instead of trying to throw a ball to Clark in a tight spot?

That was my exact thought as that play was happening. I think he could have picked it up.


There were at least 2 times he would have been better pulling it down and running. Cone Drills??

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The most important change that the bears need to make for next year is to get rid of bad rex and find consistent rex.

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the gooch wrote:
The most important change that the bears need to make for next year is to get rid of bad rex and find consistent rex.


Hoepfully we don't find consistently-bad Rex.


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The sad thing is he was having a good game until the 4th quarter. Then he decided to throw the ball to the Colts. The pass to Moose was thrown to the right spot and should have been caught but Moose wasn't expecting it and then forgot to tackle the guy.


he was having an average game at best!!! granted he really didn't have much to deal with because of lack of plays and weak play calling on turners part. rex is rex. we know what we get with him. i don't griese would of got us to the superbowl but i do think he would of given us a better shot to win last night.


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if we find consistently bad rex then we will have to find a new qb sometime soon

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how come every time i hear people break down rex's strengths they talk about his arm strength? I have never seen any examples of his strong arm, he throws kinda side arm (which is great for a small QB) and both those interceptions in the SB were ducks.

bears need to pull a Ditka, mortage the draft and find a way to take brady quinn


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First he opens his mouth, as if he can handle pressure without having himself even more the center of attention.

He just looks like a deer in headlights. He looks like a kid among men.

Ive been sick and goddamn tired of the Grossman apologists all year. We all know that tomorrow they will be out in full force on 670 starting at round 2pm.



Yep Grossman was terrible, but you cant blame him all alone.
Regardless of Grossman, the game was still winnable.

The coaching staff knew they had what amounts to a rookie quarterback.
They had all year to figure out his strengths and weaknesses just like us.
They had 2 whole weeks to draw up a game-plan, just like the Colts.

The Bears still had the ingredients to win the SuperBowl:

1) an inconsistent rookie quarterback with lots of promise
who goes 9 /21 for 123 yards and throws two interceptions.

2) an explosive two running back attack, carrying the offense and voraciously hogging up time of possession while keeping the other team's pass crazy offense off the field. The 2 back tandem features a proven power running veteran and an explosive rookie, hungry and on the rise.

3) a skilled but imperfect defense.

Its been done before.
Nope. Obviously not Grossman, TJones, Benson

It was Roethlisberger, Bettis, Parker from last year's Steelers.
Note--Roethlisberger was pretty terrible the year after.

Lovie and Turner needed more tape from Whisenhunt's Steelers scheme last year. Keepin it simple stupid.

Dilfer, Rypien, Hostetler are other mediocre quarterbacks who've won.

Yea. Rex sucks, but its the team that wins and loses. I blame this one on the coaching.


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Lovie and Turner needed more tape from Whisenhunt's Steelers scheme last year.


They also needed to play an opponent more than willing to give the game away, as the Seahawks were last year...

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They also needed to play an opponent more than willing to give the game away, as the Seahawks were last year...



They tried to give it to us. The Colts had 2 fumbles and an interception.
They were down 14-6. Like Buffone and OB say, stomp on their throat and don't let'em up. 11/12 point margins aren't exactly blowouts. Different 2nd half gameplan and adjustments, minimize bad-REX, and we could have had a different result.

Coulda woulda shoulda. Its over.


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He didn't deliver in the biggest game of his life and list to one of the greatest QB's. The funbles and the picks, high throws looks like he couldn't handle the pressure.


I don't think you give up on him though, he did well for his first season as a starter. There should be big improvement next year.


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Only if he plays on a unicycle, which will simultaneously increase his height and enhance his mobility. Is that against the rules?

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This off-season, I would do nothing but 7 on 9 drills, where he is blitzed, every play.


Some might like 1 on 9 drills...


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This off-season, I would do nothing but 7 on 9 drills, where he is blitzed, every play.


Some might like 1 on 9 drills...


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Rex just said his number one SB regret is that he wishes he handled the weather better, try handling the snap better. Nothing else that happens with the bears really matters until they admit they missed the boat with this guy.


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Rex just said his number one SB regret is that he wishes he handled the weather better, try handling the snap better. Nothing else that happens with the bears really matters until they admit they missed the boat with this guy.

I fear you're right, but he gets one more year either way. All you can do is hope you're wrong.

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in his interview w/rachel nichols he said that he wants to be the best ever. Its one thing to have goals but i dont think anyone, except nas, will mistake you for the likes of montana, unitas, elway, brady... this ranks up there with him blaming the rain for his super bowl fumbles and the distractions on NYE. here is a guy who does not shine in the spotlight so i can not understand why he says some of the things he does.


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Would you rather have a QB that says "I'm hoping to have a mediocre NFL career". Why wouldn't he strive to be the best? I hope every young guy on the Bears wants to be the best ever at their position. That doesn't mean it's going to happen, but it shows they're willing to work at it.

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true, but why say it on a national interview. why not just say your goal is to improve. it just seems like by saying you want to be the best ever adds unnecessary pressure and IMO rex isnt good under pressure.


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