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He would be a perfect fit especially to replace Ramirez eventually. He could play second now.

He also could lead off.


Too good to be true...


The Rangers are not wavering on their demands. They will get a boatload from someone.

Not the cubs thougb

i am not buying it, reminds me of the brian roberts saga

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at this point they should commit to shedding salary through the end of the season, not trading for infielders in their mid-30's who are pulling 13M a year through 2013. if they were a 2nd baseman away from possibly winning the division, sure, but i think they should refrain from signing anyone until this season is over and some money gets freed up. even if they got him, this team likely isnt winning the division. it would be one of those moves that does nothing more than string along this team. they need to commit to signing young talent and developing young talent in the organization.

hes a good player no doubt, but i dont think it makes sense. when money finally does free up, they should spend it wisely on younger players with upside. trading for guys older guys with big salaries just doesnt seem the smart way to go. plus, the rangers are going to want something in return other than crap. any prospects the cubs feel strongly about shouldn't go anywhere.

Replace? Isn't he damn near the same age as Aram?

edit: He is actually 2 years older. NO.

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Hit and Run was talking that the Phillies are probably the favorites to trade for him. Have the money and prospects, and sounds like Utley is really fucked up.

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Philly could rotate Polanco back to 2B.

Aramis Ramirez the all star thridbaseman retired two years ago

Michael Young is still good

And theyre probably the same age. Did you forget the south america +3?


Anyways, I actually agree with MOFO. I do think Young would workout well, but its not the right time for that kind of move.

It really wasn't the right time to trade for Garza, but that did not stop them.

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I don't really get the love for MY.

By all accounts he is grindy, and clubhouse-leader-ry, but he is known as sort of an offensive-minded (read: glove-challenged) player that puts up decent, not great numbers in a virtual hitter's paradise. His bat plays pretty well at shortstop, not so much at 3B or now DH and 1b that TEX is playing him at. Combine all of this with the fact that he is making like $16M/3, to me he screams "overrated".

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Right

Thats why I sorta thought about Young

Its like they already put a bunch of chips in.

I do think you always have to be open to improving your team. You cant just not make deals because your rebauilding. Garza is young and successful.

Maybe too good of a move to pass up. He's young enough to be here when they win again.

Aramis = 2nd Half 15HR 51RBI .276 BA

Young = 2nd Half 9HR 37RBI .262 BA

Ramirez>Young

i think the garza trade was exactly the kind of thing the cubs need to do more of. he is still fairly young and in the early part of his prime, and, more importantly, he is affordable and locked up for 3 more years. he is the kind of guy that can survive the carnage of the current cubs team and be around and be a part of what the cubs hopefully want to build. i dont think the guy is cy young or anything, but he is healthy, puts in a lot of starts, and has been somewhat successful. if they can make these kind of affordable signings of quality players, thats how they can build, not by signing older, expensive guys to long-term deals to end their careers. sign young guys who may be ENTERING their most productive years. even if garza tanks, as some have suggested he might, it wont be a disaster - they wont be hamstrung by a huge terrible contract. i think garza was an unexpected christmas present for the cubs, but only time will tell.

neither young or ramirez are long term solutions. let ramirez finish his contract and worry about third base next year, and fill it with a young productive player if you can, not an aging guy in entering the final stages of his career.

I agree.. What i'm saying is: There is no need to trade for Young. He's not going to improve the Cubs this year, unless he plays 2nd base and you keep Aram. even with that, i don't think the Cubs can win the division, and don't want to trade prospect for him.

rebuild like ricketts says they're putting all their resources into, and lets see what happens in a few years

i am thinking vitters will replace aram next season, agree young is too old to acquire. also most guys numbers take a big dip when they leave texas.

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Michael Young doesn't make sense for the Cubs but 1B Chris Davis does. The 25 yr old is on the block because it looks like the Rangers are going with Mitch Moreland at 1B.

i think chris davis is the same player as tyler colvin, colvin may even have the edge.

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Davis has more pop, but he projects as a huge strikeout and basement batting average guy.

Even though I'm sure this trade will never go down, what exactly were they saying Texas would want from the Cubs for Young?

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Davis has WAY more power than Colvin plus he's a pretty good defensive first baseman who can also play third. Plus you can never have too many left handed power hitters in your system.

way more eh? we shall see.. i think t.c. could hit 25+ hr in texas

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i was just going to mention that davis actually can play first and third, which is nice versatility to go along with some potential for big power.

Keyser, you always mention Davis for the Cubs. I am surprised you don't want the Sox to go after him considering Paulie only has so much left in the tank.

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