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Ugueth Will Shiv You

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:15 pm

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Out of respect to the "Rose vs Jordan" thread started in the Chicago Bulls section, I will move that conversation here. Hijacking threads sucks and I apologize.

A questions for the group:

If the NBA did another "50 Greatest Players of All Time" special 10 years from today, what percentage of that list would be players who started their career after the year 1996?

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:23 pm

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:24 pm

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If your bar is set at Kevin Martin and John Salmons then 100%.

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:26 pm

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

If your bar is set at Kevin Martin and John Salmons then 100%.

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:34 pm

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

If your bar is set at Kevin Martin and John Salmons then 100%.

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:37 pm

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Well to start, we'd have to determine who these players after '96 who would merit consideration might be.

I did a quick perusal of drafts and came up with a partial list. Feel free to paste it and add in any other candidates.

Allen Iverson
Steve Nash
Tim Duncan
Vince Carter
Dirk Nowitzki
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Dwight Howard
Chris Paul
Kevin Durant
Derrick Rose
Blake Griffin

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:39 pm

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What year was Alaa Abdelnaby drafted?

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:42 pm

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if Vince Carter makes the HoF it should be nuked (not that it already shouldn't be)

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:47 pm

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And here is the original 1996 list:

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Nate Archibald
Paul Arizin
Charles Barkley
Rick Barry
Elgin Baylor
Dave Bing
Larry Bird
Wilt Chamberlain
Bob Cousy
Dave Cowens
Billy Cunningham
Dave DeBusschere
Clyde Drexler
Julius Erving
Patrick Ewing
Walt Frazier
George Gervin
Hal Greer
John Havlicek
Elvin Hayes
Magic Johnson
Sam Jones
Michael Jordan
Jerry Lucas
Moses Malone
Karl Malone
Pete Maravich
Kevin McHale
George Mikan
Earl Monroe
Hakeem Olajuwon
Shaquille O'Neal
Robert Parish
Bob Pettit
Scottie Pippen
Willis Reed
Oscar Robertson
David Robinson
Bill Russell
Dolph Schayes
Bill Sharman
John Stockton
Isiah Thomas
Nate Thurmond
Wes Unseld
Bill Walton
Jerry West
Lenny Wilkens
James Worthy

Also note that Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, Gary Payton were not on here, and they would be hard to omit.

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:51 pm

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Bagels wrote:

if Vince Carter makes the HoF it should be nuked (not that it already shouldn't be)

Agreed, although that is a somewhat different discussion. I would put in a Ray Allen easily over Carter. Carter is a great talent, but never really showed he could play with a team or win anything.

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:55 pm

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Apologist wrote:

Bagels wrote:

if Vince Carter makes the HoF it should be nuked (not that it already shouldn't be)

Agreed, although that is a somewhat different discussion. I would put in a Ray Allen easily over Carter. Carter is a great talent, but never really showed he could play with a team or win anything.

if you agree then why was he on your list? :lol:

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:59 pm

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Because it's a list of players who might come up for consideration. I wouldn't put him on there.

The only slam dunks to me are Duncan and Kobe, the rest need more of a body of work but who knows what the landscape will look like by 2021.

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:08 pm

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:11 pm

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When all is said and done, I PREDICT at least 35% of the top 50 players end up being post-1996.

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:21 pm

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Plus, even though he started in '92, Chris Webber makes that list as well.

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:25 pm

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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:

When all is said and done, I PREDICT at least 35% of the top 50 players end up being post-1996.

I think you could say the same thing about 1980-1996 though.

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:59 pm

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Apologist wrote:

Throw Lebron and Dirk on the slam dunk list too.

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:54 pm

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your list is stronger than i though it could be, not sure who to swap

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