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Brick

Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:23 pm

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NY > Chicago.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:24 pm

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KDdidit wrote:

So you admit your post about Kobe was stupid, nice work Pantherbi11slA

Um. No. He's still dangerous at the end of games. Because he's taken a bulk amount of shots, I'm not gonna hate. If you guys want Kobe taking the game winning shot against the Bulls in June go right ahead.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:26 pm

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

NY > Chicago.

Never that. Total misconstrued ploy. Boilermaker Richard's fav argumentative tactic.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:26 pm

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

NY > Chicago.

I will kick one of your testicles.

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Jbi11s

Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:29 pm

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Bagels wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Ok Smart guy. You frame the argument, and I can't have any rebuttal that satisfies you. I'm good. I dealt with your type in college. You didn't last long.

Here you go, from the sidebar in that same fucking article

Carmelo Anthony
Game winning shots
21-44
47.7%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IDC who you have on your team. Melo is getting the ball at the end of games.

right and you claimed Kobe was even better, moron

glad to know you went to college, feel free to drop any other bits of information that you feel might impress? like how you watch every TNT game, even when they were on Tuesdays AND Thursdays? :lol:

Oh boy. How you've survived with such a low self worth is beyond. I can sense your fear from here.

You do know the NBA used to be on twice a week on the Turner networks right?

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:30 pm

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immessedup17 wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Acceptance? No...

Apparently, a whole lot of you have devolved this board into nothing but some fag-like meeting spot for random social gatherings like high school field trips. There is barely any sports talk or even lighthearted joking anymore. People who actually follow the NBA (Excluding Hawks fans) can appreciate this.

soooooooooo y r u heer?????????????????//?1?!?@?!?!?!??!?!?!?

because everyone was clamoring for his return. the anticipation built up to a fever pitch before he dropped his monumental "year in review" telling us that Rose should be the MVP and the coach of the team with the best record in the NBA should be coach of the year. i've learned so much today my head hurts

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:30 pm

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Jbi11s wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

NY > Chicago.

Never that. Total misconstrued ploy. Boilermaker Richard's fav argumentative tactic.

Sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:34 pm

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Thanks for all the posts people.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:37 pm

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Jbi11s wrote:

Thanks for all the posts people.

are the nurses coming back to put your straightjacket on now?

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:39 pm

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Bagels wrote:

immessedup17 wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

soooooooooo y r u heer?????????????????//?1?!?@?!?!?!??!?!?!?

So this is what you and spmack do on a consistent basis in your social dealings with people? Like I've said, I've seen the type before. I'm sure it happens every time you meet someone new. You have to put them through the fire before you feel comfortable socializing with them. it's sad, and the only people I've known who outwardly do this are traumatically insecure people. It's a sign you don't totally feel comfortable in your own skin. So everyone else must feel that way to. I'm not even charging you for this diagnosis.

BTW, my NBA thoughts are mainly for people like KS and Hova. They can actually engage others in mature discussion without feeling the need to insult out of insecurity.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:41 pm

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Bagels wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Thanks for all the posts people.

are the nurses coming back to put your straightjacket on now?

Good one. I must be crazy to not waiver on my beliefs.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:44 pm

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Jbi11s wrote:

Bagels wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Thanks for all the posts people.

are the nurses coming back to put your straightjacket on now?

Good one. I must be crazy to not waiver on my beliefs.

Or waver.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:45 pm

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so much for that college education

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:45 pm

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So in conclusion, anyone who would still want Luol Deng over Carmelo hasn't watched any meaningful western conference basketball the last 7 years. It is ok to admit a fault. Kobe isn't nearly as efficient at the end of games as we've been led to believe, but Carmelo is at this point in his career statistically the best EVER in game winning situations.
For those of you who tried to bring some brevity and well thought out opinion thank you.

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Phil McCracken

Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:46 pm

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Jbi11s wrote:

Phil McCracken wrote:

Not arguing that Deng is clutch but he doesn't have to be because D-Rose is taking over games when it matters. In Denver Carmelo had to take the shot because the only other person you might want with the ball is Billups and he is one of the least clutch players ever. That Mr. Big Shot thing is a friggin joke.

Good points Phil. My counter would be that D Rose showed up 2 and a half years ago, and Luol has never been trusted with the ball in his hands at the end of games.

Luol has improved as a player in the 2+ years since Rose showed up though. Plus he can hit 3's now!

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:47 pm

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Jbi11s wrote:

BTW, my NBA thoughts are mainly for people like KS and Hova. They can actually engage others in mature discussion without feeling the need to insult out of insecurity.

Who You Crappin, Thursdays at 5pm featuring 10 Foot Midget.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:48 pm

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Phil McCracken wrote:

Luol has improved as a player in the 2+ years since Rose showed up though. Plus he can hit 3's now!

I agree with you. It's just Carmelo could always shoot 3's. And he was a 20ppg scorer from his rookie year.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:49 pm

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Jbi11s wrote:

I would still much rather have Luol than Melo. But hey; you gave us something to do this afternoon. Thanks.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:50 pm

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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

I would still much rather have Luol than Melo. But hey; you gave us something to do this afternoon. Thanks.

Secretly the plan. Thanks for your opinion.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:34 pm

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Jbi11s wrote:

BTW, my NBA thoughts are mainly for people like KS and Hova. They can actually engage others in mature discussion without feeling the need to insult out of insecurity.

I can see HOVA, but KS doesn't know shit about basketball.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:38 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

BTW, my NBA thoughts are mainly for people like KS and Hova. They can actually engage others in mature discussion without feeling the need to insult out of insecurity.

I can see HOVA, but KS doesn't know shit about basketball.

Your avatar is so cringeworthy, but I see and appreciate the humor.

KS at least likes to present his opinions in a calm, lighthearted tone. That is enough for me.

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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:57 pm

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Jbilas gets one day off from 3rd shift and look what the fuck happens!!!

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:00 pm

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Free Ajent wrote:

Jbilas gets one day off from 3rd shift and look what the fuck happens!!!

I know man. Pent up.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:05 pm

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immessedup17 wrote:

Carmelo would not be able to shoot 25 times in Chicago, therefore Carmelo would not score 30ppg...or even 25ppg, in Chicago.

wrong

He would have easier shots on a better team

Remind me to kick you in your ovaries on 4/13

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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:35 pm

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wrong

I said players not just PGs

that makes 2 kicks to the ovaries

you are quickly running out of ovaries, you better not be wrong again

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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:08 pm

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This thread is all sorts of crazy.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:58 pm

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immessedup17 wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Phil McCracken wrote:

Luol has improved as a player in the 2+ years since Rose showed up though. Plus he can hit 3's now!

I agree with you. It's just Carmelo could always shoot 3's. And he was a 20ppg scorer from his rookie year.

Anyone can be a 20ppg scorer in the NBA...if you shoot the ball whenever the shit you want.

In Denver...Carmelo wants to shoot it 25 times? 30 times? Go right ahead. There's your almost 30 points per game. So what if he went 9-25 for the night, and Nene couldn't rebound any of those misses.

Carmelo would not be able to shoot 25 times in Chicago, therefore Carmelo would not score 30ppg...or even 25ppg, in Chicago.

The 2 seasons Carmelo averaged 28ppg were the only seasons he averaged more than 20+shots per game:

2006-07
FG/game: 22.4
PPG: 28.9

2009-10
FG/Game: 21.8
PPG: 28.2

He is probably the most efficient scorer in the game. He has a post game, unlimited range, and no one can consistently guard him. Averaging 20ppg in the NBA is one of the harder things to do in professional sports. Currently only 18 players in the world (NBA) achieve this feat. Averaging 25+ppg is rare air. Carmelo averages 24.8 for his career.

Not trying to be a total dick, but next argument please.

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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:06 pm

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I don't get where this 25 shots/game came from. That's Iverson in his prime, MJeff towards the end, or Kobe when he decided to avg. 35ppg for an entire season.

Carmelo is scarily efficient. He is a serious phenomenon. Averaging 20 and 10 his freshman year in college was enough for me to realize just how good he could be.

I love how people want to kick the Knicks while they are down. They have no continuity. No roster outside of Amare and Melo (Chauncey exists solely on rep nowadays). They will be more than solid next year if they have a decent off season.

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Post subject: Re: The Many Reasons Carmelo is Better Than Luol Deng

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:09 pm

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immessedup17 wrote:

LeBron James is the most efficient scorer in the NBA if you go by versatility, which is wrong. Efficiency and versatility are not synonyms.

Dwight Howard is the most efficient scorer in the NBA if you go by efficiency.

Back all that up with some sort of statistic. No Hollinger rankings please.

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immessedup17 wrote:

Efficiency and versatility are not synonyms.

it's cause and effect

If you are more versatile the chances of you being more efficient are very likely

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