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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:13 am 
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Rightfully so, there was a ton of optimism and excitement surrounding the acquisition of Peavy. Since his arrival, when he has pitched, it has been so-so at best. Then the injury, the surgery, the rehab, the schedule, the renewed optimism, the rotator cuff tendinitis, the mini shutdown, the renewed rehab, the “shoulder feels good” quotes, the rehab starts, renewed optimism, the setback, the…….What’s next? Towel drill? Simulated game?

So with all of this shit….I ask you….why isn’t Peavy playing for the Cubs?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:31 am 
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Clayton Richard has 20 wins since the trade

Peavy has 10


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Did he not already have something going on with his arm that San Diego recognized? I thought they had him shut down for a while there and were genuinely concerned.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:44 am 
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I think he had an ankle problem in SD

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the only thing that comes to mind is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

seriously, i know people get sand in their Caller Bobs about youtube links on the board here, but clicking that link will convey everything i could possibly say about peavy in a 5000 word manifesto in one convenient little ~5-10 second clip.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:57 am 
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What would bother me is that he denied the trade the first time.

They convinced him to come here.

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Motherfucking hell. I don't see this turning out well. It looks like they will need Humber the whole year and I wish they signed Freddy Garcia when they had the chance.

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I wish they signed Freddy Garcia when they had the chance.

:lol: :lol:

How bad is your season when you are pining for Freddy Garcia?

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Douchebag wrote:
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I wish they signed Freddy Garcia when they had the chance.

:lol: :lol:

How bad is your season when you are pining for Freddy Garcia?

He won 12 games last year and was pretty damn good for a 5th starter all year long. His ERA seems high at 4.6, but he had a few games where he really got shelled which inflated that number. Other than that, he was pretty good all year long and every team in MLB would take a 12-6 record out of their 5th starter. He would have been a nice insurance policy if/when something happened to Peavy.

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Rightfully so, there was a ton of optimism and excitement surrounding the acquisition of Peavy. Since his arrival, when he has pitched, it has been so-so at best. Then the injury, the surgery, the rehab, the schedule, the renewed optimism, the rotator cuff tendinitis, the mini shutdown, the renewed rehab, the “shoulder feels good” quotes, the rehab starts, renewed optimism, the setback, the…….What’s next? Towel drill? Simulated game?

So with all of this shit….I ask you….why isn’t Peavy playing for the Cubs?

If it was up to Hendry, he would be a Cub. Someone above him squashed the trade.


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Notice that Frank has nothing to say about Peavy.

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I'd still make the Peavy trade (if this were July 2009)

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Notice that Frank has nothing to say about Peavy.

At this point all we know is that he left his start early. Sure doesn't sound good, but we'll know just how bad it may be later on.


Anyway, its about time for bigfan to start another thread on something that he just happened to hear about Peavy when he tuned in to....

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Notice that Frank has nothing to say about Peavy.

At this point all we know is that he left his start early. Sure doesn't sound good, but we'll know just how bad it may be later on.


Anyway, its about time for bigfan to start another thread on something that he just happened to hear about Peavy when he tuned in to....


Frank you can only turn so much back on me.

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walkrman5 wrote:
Rightfully so, there was a ton of optimism and excitement surrounding the acquisition of Peavy. Since his arrival, when he has pitched, it has been so-so at best. Then the injury, the surgery, the rehab, the schedule, the renewed optimism, the rotator cuff tendinitis, the mini shutdown, the renewed rehab, the “shoulder feels good” quotes, the rehab starts, renewed optimism, the setback, the…….What’s next? Towel drill? Simulated game?

So with all of this shit….I ask you….why isn’t Peavy playing for the Cubs?

If it was up to Hendry, he would be a Cub. Someone above him squashed the trade.

Just like Fukudome would be a White Sock right now and be getting paid even more if it were up to Kenny


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Just like Fukudome would be a White Sock right now and be getting paid even more if it were up to Kenny


Not really...Fukudome was offered more money, but he came with the "I want to be the first Japanese player for my team" requirement. So Tad Iguchi and Shingo took care of that problem.

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Just like Fukudome would be a White Sock right now and be getting paid even more if it were up to Kenny
You know that it's just as likely that the Sox knew that Fukudome really wanted to be a Cub and simply raised the price on him they would pay? Teams do that all the time.

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Just like Fukudome would be a White Sock right now and be getting paid even more if it were up to Kenny


Not really...Fukudome was offered more money, but he came with the "I want to be the first Japanese player for my team" requirement. So Tad Iguchi and Shingo took care of that problem.

Yes, really.

The reasons Fukudome turned down the offer are meaningless here.

Kenny offered him more money than Hendry.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Just like Fukudome would be a White Sock right now and be getting paid even more if it were up to Kenny
You know that it's just as likely that the Sox knew that Fukudome really wanted to be a Cub and simply raised the price on him they would pay? Teams do that all the time.

Im not sure I get what youre saying

My point is Kenny was willing to pay more than the cubs are currently paying Fukudome.


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I'm sure Fukudome regrets that decision not only for the money but because the Sox would have done a much better job developing him (nobody could have done worse) into a good major league player. The Cubs fucked this guy up from day 1 and they continue to fuck him up 4 years later.


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:roll: What would the Sox have done differently to develop him?

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I'm sure Fukudome regrets that decision not only for the money but because the Sox would have done a much better job developing him (nobody could have done worse) into a good major league player. The Cubs fucked this guy up from day 1 and they continue to fuck him up 4 years later.

Youre kidding right?

This is pretty Biased and ridiculous even for you


Also, if the Cubs had gotten Peavy, he'd have won the Cy young last year.

Oh and GREAT job devoloping Shingo


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:roll: What would the Sox have done differently to develop him?

Bench him afer April. His stats would be perfect.

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First they wanted him to be a power hitter/run producer so they hit him in the middle of the order. They finally realized he's not a power hitter so they moved him to leadoff. Then they finally realized he's not a base stealer and they had no left handed power so they moved him back to the middle of the order. Again that didn't work so they moved him back to the top of the order because they don't have a leadoff hitter and they've been moving him around the order ever since.

Another team would have realized what type of player he is and would have stopped asking him to do things he can't do because the GM left SO many holes in the lineup.


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First they wanted him to be a power hitter/run producer so they hit him in the middle of the order. They finally realized he's not a power hitter so they moved him to leadoff. Then they finally realized he's not a base stealer and they had no left handed power so they moved him back to the middle of the order. Again that didn't work so they moved him back to the top of the order because they don't have a leadoff hitter and they've been moving him around the order ever since.

Another team would have realized what type of player he is and would have stopped asking him to do things he can't do because the GM left SO many holes in the lineup.

So they White Sox would have paid him more money, batted him 6th, 7th, or 8th, and he would magically not be bad?

Got it.

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First they wanted him to be a power hitter/run producer so they hit him in the middle of the order. They finally realized he's not a power hitter so they moved him to leadoff. Then they finally realized he's not a base stealer and they had no left handed power so they moved him back to the middle of the order. Again that didn't work so they moved him back to the top of the order because they don't have a leadoff hitter and they've been moving him around the order ever since.

Another team would have realized what type of player he is and would have stopped asking him to do things he can't do because the GM left SO many holes in the lineup.

Honestly

What kind of numbers do you think he could put up if handled correctly?


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He would do pretty good hitting 6-8 in that lineup. He does some nice things. He's willing to take a walk and he hits a lot of doubles. He's also a good right fielder. I'm not saying he would be a superstar but he wouldn't be the colossal failure he is now.


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I'm sure Fukudome regrets that decision not only for the money but because the Sox would have done a much better job developing him (nobody could have done worse) into a good major league player. The Cubs fucked this guy up from day 1 and they continue to fuck him up 4 years later.


I am a Sox fan, but that's just dumb. Wasn't Fukudome 30 years old when he came to MLB?
No team should be "developing" players with $50 million dollar deals. Those guys come developed!


Already developed? Seriously? In the last decade there are a handful of Japanese position players who have come to the states and made an immediate impact.

Japanese baseball is the equivalent of double A. They are far from developed.


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Japanese baseball is the equivalent of double A. They are far from developed.

Don't tell that to whistler! You will kill his Matt Murton chubby.

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