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Contreras has to be older than Julio Franco was when he hung them up.

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Jose Contreras got save #5 last night for the Phillies in their 3-0 shutout win over the Padres in San Diego. I don't think Jose's their regular closer though...

^^ Yea but I think someone mentioned it already.. Lidge has been injured and highly combustible the last few years.

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1926-1931-1934-1942-1944-1946-1964-1967-1982-2006-2011

Three primes in his career
His best year in his 40's
Showed roid rage on several occasions
People have testified they saw him do it
His defense and denials are fulll of holes




Am I talking about Clemens or Bonds?


Clemens wife did HGH, his best friend started doing HGH the year he joined Clemens in houston where Roger was setting new records for ERA.

There were actually ESPN cameras showing them working out together in that off season. I guess Pettite was sneaking HGH while Roger was having a water break?


Clemens then testified that he didnt know what HGH is. So he's clearly lying.


Throwing the bat at Piazza? Little unjustified rage there?



Here's my list of people that are so obvious I dont need any proof to know they were on roids

Barry Bonds
Mark McGwire
Luis Gonzales
Roger Clemens
David Ortiz
Eric Gagne
Cliff Politte
Sammy Sosa
Ivan Rodriguez
Brady Anderson
Rich Aurrellia
Billy Koch





With that said, Im not sure what to think about Pedro.

Dude dominated in the roids era while on a team with Manny and David Ortiz.

Wouldnt be shocked if he dabbled.

I dont think maddux did them.

Randy Johnson maybe.

I could see any pitcher taking something illegal to come back quicker from an injury or just to strengthen the arm to come back better after 4 days

What about:

Jay Hilgenberg
Tom Thayer
Walter Payton
Anthony Mason
Scottie Pippen
Dennis Rodman
Alonzo Mourning
Lance Armstrong
Bill Romanowski

?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Rodman, Mason, and Mourning could make a case to me. Id listen. The rest would be dismissed as of course being on roids


My list isnt a complete list, just who I thought of off the top of my head.


Richard Hidalgo
Greg Vaughn
Bo Jackson
Mark Schlereth
Steve McMichael
Todd Helton