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Urlacher's missing neck

Post subject: Re: Which team has more hope, Cubs or Sox?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:57 am

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If the Cubs had Cash and Wells they may very well be in 1st in the NL Central.

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Northside_Dan

Post subject: Re: Which team has more hope, Cubs or Sox?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:00 am

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This season it's still probably the Sox.

If the Cubs offense picks up a bit and we get Wells and Cashner back I could see the argument either way.

Long term, it's probably the Cubs at this point since we have a stronger farm system provided Hendry is gone

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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:00 am

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Cubs dont really have to 'turn' anything around. They are playing OK and will be around the top of division until they clinch it in September.

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Post subject: Re: Which team has more hope, Cubs or Sox?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:01 am

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Dethklok wrote:

Urlacher's missing neck wrote:

If the Cubs had Cash and Wells they may very well be in 1st in the NL Central.

Well they don't. So you have to go with the notion that they're not going to available or stable for the near future, same as you have to do with Peavy. So since you can't really count on them, you still voted Sox?

Wells has forearm stiffness, Peavy is on life support as we speak. I don't think you can lump them together Darklok.

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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:02 am

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Can I throw the Brewers in this? It is a sad time all around. :cry:

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Post subject: Re: Which team has more hope, Cubs or Sox?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:04 am

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Northside_Dan wrote:

If the Cubs offense picks up a bit and we get Wells and Cashner back I could see the argument either way.

Cubs have 2nd highest batting average in the NL. The offense has been pretty good, it is the starting pitching that has been the problem. If Dempster can figure things out and Cashner/Wells can come back and contribute they might be alright.

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Urlacher's missing neck

Post subject: Re: Which team has more hope, Cubs or Sox?

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Dethklok wrote:

Urlacher's missing neck wrote:

If the Cubs had Cash and Wells they may very well be in 1st in the NL Central.

They are both throwing live to batters this week. Wells should be back in 2 weeks, Cash maybe 3.

All I'm saying is that with 2 starters down and garbage starting in their stead and zero production from the 3 and 5 hitters this team has hung in there. If they get those 2 back and Pena actually hits they could still be in the mix for their division. The Sox seem at the point of burying themselves beyond the point of repair.

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Post subject: Re: Which team has more hope, Cubs or Sox?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:06 am

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RFDC wrote:

Northside_Dan wrote:

If the Cubs offense picks up a bit and we get Wells and Cashner back I could see the argument either way.

Good point. I got lazy and just looked at runs scored which they are 11th in NL and 21st in MLB. Pitching has definitely been the problem though

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Post subject: Re: Which team has more hope, Cubs or Sox?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:25 am

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I'd like to say the Sox, because I think they can only go up from this point. I said that this weekend, and along came a no hitter chucked by a guy with a 9+ ERA :shock:

I said early in the season that Cubs defense and middle relief was going to hurt them in the long run. I still say the Sox but that could change after this roadtrip out west they have...

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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:07 pm

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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:23 pm

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They're not currently playing like it but the Sox have more talent at the major league level and though the Cubs minor league system is better it's not particularly good. Baseball America ranks them 16th and Fangraphs has them 20th (maybe someone with a prospectus subscription can post their ranking). It's not like the Cubs are the Royals or Rays with tons of talent in the minors.

Considering that I'll go with the team that has more talent at the major league level.

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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:51 pm

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Keyser Soze wrote:

Considering that I am a White Sox homer, I'll go with the team that has the worst record in MLB.

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Post subject: Re: Which team has more hope, Cubs or Sox?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:53 pm

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I've been watching it since the debut. I'm a huge Brendon Small fan from his Home Movies cartoon.
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Post subject: Re: Which team has more hope, Cubs or Sox?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 2:56 pm

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Post subject: Re: Which team has more hope, Cubs or Sox?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 3:01 pm

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I'll just say right now it looks like the Cubs division is up for grabs. If some Cubs start earning their money,they might have a chance. The Sox look like they have at least 2 AAA players playing everyday. Also,AJ sucks like he has sucked defensivley for the last 2 years at least. Combine that with slow starts by a few others and a crap bullpen,well there you go.

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