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 Post subject: Kruetz out, Spencer in
PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:06 pm 
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Ex-Seahawk is Bears' new center. Kruetz is gone.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:20 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:29 pm 
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Better a year to early, than a year to late. Though some would say it is already a year to late.

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Are you serious bro? How are they going to let Kreutz go like this. I mean he was a leader to the offense that was in the top ten in QB hits(92) top 10 in least amount of rushing TD's (10) number 11 in rushing yards, Number 1 in sacks (56) and 12th fewest pts.

You all are right, they should keep him around an extra year for team chemistry. They should never let anyone go ever as it might have a negative effect on the offense players that did so well last year. Right.

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Who will be the new locker room leader? Certainly not Jay. Is Roy Williams going to step up and run shit the day he walks in the building?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:55 pm 
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I read some of these posts and I wonder if some of you watched any football games in your life let alone last season. Kruetz is reliable. You can pretty much write his name in the lineup in ink every year. That means a lot in football. Blaming Kruetz because many of the other guys were bad is really brain dead football analysis. The Bears offensive line lacked talent last year. It's the reason why many knowledgeable Bears fans understand that Tice was a miracle worker last year. Once Olin wasn't forced to do his job as well as help 4 other people do their job he was great. He was the healthiest he had been in years and he had a great season. Talent wise he is still one the of best centers in the league. No one is pissed that Kruetz is leaving because the Bears upgraded the position. Fact is they just got a guy that isn't better than Kruetz. This may surprise some of you none diehard fans but chemistry and team leadership matters. Many times they make the difference between a winning and a losing team with everything else being equal.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:00 pm 
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No one else wants Kruetz either. Bears made a good decision, and got younger and bigger. Got a guy who has started 60 games.


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Losing a leader like this will hurt....especially when your qb is a huge douche and the furthest thing from a leader.

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You know what would have made Kruetz a better leader? Blocking anybody ever.

Lovie can lead, Jay can lead, Tice can, Garza can, Urlacher and Briggs can. Leadership is there. I'd rather have a guy who can block for Forte than a guy who can convince a bunch of grown ass men to walk around in the same order they line up in on the field.


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Well Bucky Chris Kruetz did block. What games were you watching? Cutler could be a leader too. Hell anybody can say they are a leader. Kruetz was a great leader. All of the guys on defense and offense knew this. The most important thing is he IS better than Spencer at football. This isn't an upgrade. Just because you got younger doesn't mean you're better. More brain dead football analysis.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:26 pm 
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Kreutz was visibly bad many times last year. And in case you missed my point, I don't give a flip about leadership.

If Kreutz is so good, I expect him to get a pretty damn good contract. Do you? Think he will get more money/years than Spencer?


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Bucky Chris wrote:
Kreutz was visibly bad many times last year. And in case you missed my point, I don't give a flip about leadership.

If Kreutz is so good, I expect him to get a pretty damn good contract. Do you? Think he will get more money/years than Spencer?


A 34 year old center with a couple years left probably has more value to his current team than another team. Kruetz was out of place when he was trying to do his job plus a few others. When he didn't need to he was great. That was the issue. He wasn't good enough anymore to cover for a lot of others fuck ups. Sure the Bears saved money but that doesn't change the fact the Kruetz is still better than Spencer. Where is loyalty at too? Even according to Angelo Kruetz gave the Bears a couple of hometown discounts. He allowed Ruskell's guy to prevent him from returning the favor.

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As a fan of a bitter rival I am happy Kruetz is gone. You will miss him.

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Also just because you don't care about leadership doesn't mean it isn't important.

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I care a lot less about it than I do about blocking. Cutler led the league in stats last year. Kruetz had a part in that.

I'm confident other leaders can fill in. And now with Spencer, I'm more confiden in the blocking ability of the line.


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Hova is the same guy that said Sydney Rice is or would be the best WR in the NFC north so how much football do you actually watch? Loyalty is great and so is having leadership, but I would say its time to make a change. Kreutz isn't getting younger and the O line was one of.the worst in the league last year. Our leader led us to our Qb completely getting his ass kicked last year. I dont see how it can get much worse then that.

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Hova is the same guy that said Sydney Rice is or would be the best WR in the NFC north so how much football do you actually watch? Loyalty is great and so is having leadership, but I would say its time to make a change. Kreutz isn't getting younger and the O line was one of.the worst in the league last year. Our leader led us to our Qb completely getting his ass kicked last year. I dont see how it can get much worse then that.


When healthy what WR looked better than Rice in the NFC? I would think Favre knows a thing or two about WR's and he talked about how great Rice was and will be. He's still only 24 too. This is a team trying to win now. Getting younger and better is fine. Roy Williams wasn't my first choice at WR but fact is he is their best receiver in a decade so I'm cool with that. With Spencer they didn't get better. Getting rid of the best guy on a shitty O-line doesn't make you a better team or get you closer to a championship. It just means Tice will have to call in a few more favors this season to keep Cutler upright. I think Tice is a great enough coach to get the job done but it would have been a lot easier with Kruetz for at least 1 more season.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:50 pm 
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Brain dead analysis is when you believe 1 player can do everything when it comes to blocking. That pretty much speaks for itself. At 4 I believe my son knows better than that.

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Football is a TEAM game. Even great players need help. The more help they have the greater they look.

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Your last two posts make absolutely no sense.


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you are both right.

Olin has a part in this too. I think they might have kept him for a year but he wants more years or more money.


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How many bad snaps were due to Olins low crotch? The Bears couldn't run a shotgun because olin did not like long snapping because of his fireplug body. Fuck him,he was washed up about 2 years ago.

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Kreutz is wanted by soooo many teams (because he is so good), that he is considering retirement (per the Tribune).


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When Angelo finds a guy that's good he tends to put crap around him. He did that with Cutler when it came to WR's and now he is doing the same thing with Tice. The Bears haven't upgrade one position on one of the worse offensive lines they've had in a while.

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Bucky Chris wrote:
Kreutz is wanted by soooo many teams (because he is so good), that he is considering retirement (per the Tribune).


He was so bad that they wanted to pay him more than the guy they signed to replace him.

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Has Cutler ever shown that he has anything that it takes to be a team leader? I would love for him to prove me wrong but right now he is probably the last guy ater Roy Williams that I would want leading the offense in the locker room

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Has Cutler ever shown that he has anything that it takes to be a team leader? I would love for him to prove me wrong but right now he is probably the last guy ater Roy Williams that I would want leading the offense in the locker room


What do you base that opinion off of?

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He's a guy whose best years are behind him. He was nothing special last year.

The Bears offered him a contract. He refused. Move on.

The bigger problem has been the Bears refusing to draft a replacement.

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Everything I've seen and heard from him. Hell they didn't think enough of him to make him a captain. If he is playing at a high level consistently then he can lead by his play. He hasn't done that in Chicago. He's quick to throw everyone under the bus instead of looking in the mirror.

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