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NEW YORK -- Basketball-related income and total player compensation each increased by 4.8 percent in the NBA this past season.

The league said Friday that, with the union, it had completed the 2010-11 season audit. Players are currently locked out after the two sides failed to agree on a new collective bargaining agreement. One of the issues is what percentage of basketball-related income players should be guaranteed.

NBA logo The average NBA player salary this past season was $5.15 million. Over the six years of the expired CBA, the average salary increased by 16 percent.

Basketball-related income increased from $3.643 billion in 2009-10 to $3.817 billion. Total player compensation increased from $2.076 billion to $2.176 billion.

The increase was 1 percent the previous year and 2.5 percent two years ago.

The average player salary this past season was $5.15 million. Over the six years of the expired CBA, the average salary increased by 16 percent.

Friday was the 22nd day of the lockout. The union has frequently questioned the league's financials, acknowledging losses but not anywhere near what the NBA has stated.

The players had offered to give up $100 million in salary costs annually in a proposal for a new five-year deal, believing that was more in line with the true losses. Commissioner David Stern called that offer "modest."

The league projected losses of $300 million last season after losses of several hundred million dollars in each season of the CBA, which was ratified in 2005.

The union has said the NBA projected a decline in revenues for 2009-10 but they actually rose, so the final losses should have been much less than the league said.

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I think I agree with Hunter's thoughts. I will be surprised if they play any games this year.

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Players Association executive director Billy Hunter says the 2011-12 NBA season will likely be canceled entirely because the commissioner's negotiating leeway is in danger of being undermined by a group of hard-line owners.

"The circumstances have changed among [David Stern's] constituency," Hunter told a group of lawyers Wednesday, as quoted in the Baltimore Sun. "In the last six or seven years, there is a new group of owners to come in who paid a premium for their franchises, and what they're doing is kind of holding his feet to the fire."

Hunter told an American Bar Association conference that if he "had to bet on it", he would wager that there will be no NBA season.

"We're $800 million apart per year," Hunter said Wednesday, adding, "something has to happen that both of us can use as leverage to save face."

NBA owners and players held a formal collective bargaining session for the first high-level negotiations in a month Monday but after nearly three hours of discussions the sides emerged as far apart as they were when the day began. Stern said the sides were "at the same place" as they were when the lockout began July 1 just before the old collective bargaining agreement ran out.

Owners are seeking significant changes to the league's salary structure, claiming $300 million in losses last season and hundreds of millions more in each year of the previous agreement, which was ratified in 2005. Players have acknowledged the losses but disputed their size, and they've balked at the league's push for a hard salary cap and reduction in salaries and maximum contract lengths.

The union has encouraged players to find work rather than give in to the owners' economic demands, with the hope that owners would offer better proposals if they see their players have other options. Hunter recently sent a memo to all players endorsing locked-out players to consider playing overseas.

Nets All-Star Deron Williams agreed to an overseas deal with Besiktas of Turkey, the only superstar with an overseas deal thus far, though some lesser players have one. Many elite players say they are keeping it as an option.

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That almost definitely includes Reinsdorf, yes?

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That almost definitely includes Reinsdorf, yes?
I believe that the hard-line owners are thought to be the ones who are losing a lot of money. Reinsdorf won't want to shut down a season with how much money he makes even with a bad deal.

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the commissioner's negotiating leeway is in danger of being undermined by a group of hard-line owners.

That almost definitely includes Reinsdorf, yes?
I believe that the hard-line owners are thought to be the ones who are losing a lot of money. Reinsdorf won't want to shut down a season with how much money he makes even with a bad deal.

Agreed. It's all the dopes that overpaid for small market teams over the past 10 years that are going to holdout on making a deal. Those guys would be better off financially if the season was just canceled outright.

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I don't think the season will be cancelled. I think by September we'll see alot more progress in this

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I would be shocked if there was an NBA season. Players only got $2.1B last season and they offered to give back $100M. If they're $800k apart that means the owners basically want to cut their take in half. Noway I see that happening.

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I would be shocked if there was an NBA season. Players only got $2.1B last season and they offered to give back $100M. If they're $800k apart that means the owners basically want to cut their take in half. Noway I see that happening.


$800M apart. Supposedly.

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I would be shocked if there was an NBA season. Players only got $2.1B last season and they offered to give back $100M. If they're $800k apart that means the owners basically want to cut their take in half. Noway I see that happening.


$800M apart. Supposedly.

I think Hova just made a typo.

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honestly they need to have a full 82 game season. There was so many storyline's last year that drew attention to the league. The big three in Miami, Derrick Roses MVP season, Blake Griffin daily highlight reel, the knicks kind of being relevant again, Memphis surprise run in the playoffs, and that legendary NBA Finals. At my school, I have never seen so many average sports fan that were interested in the NBA; having a lockout would ruin so much momentum. Plus a lockout prevents Kobe Bryant trying to reach Kareems record; and wasted an year of the the young superstars ages like Rose,Durant, and Griffin. Plus it wastes a year of veterans ages like Duncan,Kobe,the Big 3 in Boston, and the mission for Dallas to repeat.

My point is...the both sides need to get this deal done.

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Bill Simmons had an hour-long interview with David Stern which posted on Friday. Very enlightening. Stern is so smooth and he just owns Simmons. Check it out.

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Kobe is in midseason form. Watch the video.


Kobe Bryant made his first appearance this summer on Tuesday at South Los Angeles' famed Drew League, and he wasted no time grabbing the headlines.

The Los Angeles Lakers guard scored 43 points, including a game-winning buzzer beater while matched up against Oklahoma City Thunder guard (and L.A. native) James Harden.

Drew League commissioner Dino Smiley disputed various Internet and Twitter accounts that said Bryant scored 45.

As one would deduce from the numbers, Bryant, who underwent an offseason platelet-rich plasma therapy procedure on his troublesome right knee, looked good on the court.

"He was fresh," Smiley said. "His spring, his jump shot was nice. Getting to the basket. His jab steps and his foot work. Everything was very good."

Smiley kept the possibility of an appearance by Bryant under wraps, but once the superstar showed up, the news immediately hit cyberspace.

"That's when the line went about 75 yards out the door," Smiley said. "We had to have a sheriff at the door to keep crowd control. We knew it was going to be an unusual amount of people there."

The fans, who'd been chanting "Kobe" as Bryant dribbled the ball up the floor for the final play, stormed the court to mob the 13-time All-Star. To Smiley's recollection, that reaction was a Drew League first.

"We've had guys hit game-winners where their teammates run on the floor. Some of their friends may run on the floor," he said. "But that right there was mind boggling. That trumped everything."


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Delonte West to Home Depot?

Although he's made over $14 million in the NBA, Delonte West tweeted recently that he is "broke" and has applied for a job at Home Depot.

"It's official.. Pride 2 the side.. just filled out a application at Home Depot.. Lockout aint a game," the Celtics guard tweeted.

West is on probation for a weapons charge and also tweeted that he wasn't allowed to pursue basketball opportunities overseas.

"Can't even get that over seas money," he tweeted. "Judge said it's a no go on leaving the country."

West has battled bipolar disorder during his career and also posted this to Twitter: "Broke down in the ATM line.. 25 cars behind me and I already reached my daily limit... I'm broke n my cars broke.. Where's my therapist???"

Appearing in only 24 games this past season, the 27-year-old West averaged 5.6 points in his second stint with the Celtics.

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Delonte West to Home Depot?

Although he's made over $14 million in the NBA, Delonte West tweeted recently that he is "broke" and has applied for a job at Home Depot.

"It's official.. Pride 2 the side.. just filled out a application at Home Depot.. Lockout aint a game," the Celtics guard tweeted.

West is on probation for a weapons charge and also tweeted that he wasn't allowed to pursue basketball opportunities overseas.

"Can't even get that over seas money," he tweeted. "Judge said it's a no go on leaving the country."

West has battled bipolar disorder during his career and also posted this to Twitter: "Broke down in the ATM line.. 25 cars behind me and I already reached my daily limit... I'm broke n my cars broke.. Where's my therapist???"

Appearing in only 24 games this past season, the 27-year-old West averaged 5.6 points in his second stint with the Celtics.
Well he already delivered the wood to Gloria James....seems like a good fit

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Letter to players from Derek Fisher...


LAS VEGAS -- Derek Fisher is determined to make the NBA players meeting productive instead of divisive.

With about 70 players expected to meet here on Thursday, the National Basketball Players' Association president sent an impassioned email to his colleagues. The letter, obtained by SI.com from a player and published in full below, criticizes agents who have been calling for the decertification of the union and asks players to remain supportive of its efforts.

It's the second deliberate and creative wrinkle Fisher has added to the meeting. As reported Wednesday night by SI.com, NFLPA head DeMaurice Smith will be speaking at the session after accepting an invitation from the Lakers' guard.

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To Each & Every Player,

After the latest round of meetings, I thought it would be best to update you personally as to where the leadership of the National Basketball Players Association stands, where the negotiations stand where we are headed and the reasons why.

Without a doubt, someone will be leaking this. I know it. The moment you read this you will know it. So, I say all with the fullest transparency.

I was elected as your President. By you. For you. I take great pride and am honored to serve the over 400 members of our association. I and our Executive Committee take this job and this role seriously and will not agree to an unfair deal on behalf of you and our players. Period.

I'm not looking out just for the marquee guy, I'm looking out for the guy that dreams of being a professional basketball player and gets a minimum deal. I'm not just trying to protect the guy on a team in a huge market. I'm protecting the player that is in a small market with incredibly loyal fans.

I've made it clear, I want to play. You have each made it clear, you want to play. The fans have been unwavering, they want their basketball. The thousand of employees that work in the arenas, the ticket offices, the concession stands, they want a season. We all want to go back to work.

The league and the team owners have locked us out. This was not our choice. Our employers decided to stop allowing us to do our jobs.

My job since July 1st is to find a solution. To find an outcome that protects each of you and your livelihoods and continues to allow us to play the game we love so much and the fans love supporting.

Since before the lockout began, I have spent hours upon hours, days, months, years, working on preparing you, the fans and the media about the possibilities. Now as the lockout has set in, reality of the situation is here.

The most recent meetings in New York were effective. What you have been told by your agents, representatives and the media is probably speculative and inaccurate.

What actually happened in those meetings was discussion, brainstorming and a sharing of options by both sides. The turning point this past Tuesday was not a disagreement between the players and the owners. It was actually a fundamental divide between the owners internally. They could not agree with each other on specific points of the deal and therefore it caused conflict within the league and its owners.

So it is our hope that today, Thursday, at the owners meeting in Dallas that they work out their differences, come up with a revenue sharing plan that will protect their teams and are then ready to come together and sign off on the agreement we as a smaller group deemed reasonable.

Decertification seems to be a hot button issue today in the media. So I'd like to address it. I've read yesterday's stories and find the position of these agents interesting. I have made myself available to each and every agent. But not once have I heard from them. If they are so concerned about the direction of the union, then why have they not contacted me? Each and every one of them mentioned has been in meetings with me. I've answered their questions, I've been told they support you, their players and our Players Association. So if there is a genuine concern, a suggestion, a question, call me. Email me. Text me. I'm working tirelessly each and every day on behalf of the over 400 players that they represent. Working for nothing but the best interests of THEIR guys. I don't make a commission, I don't make a salary for serving as President. I have NO ulterior motives. None.

It is because they have not come to me once that I question their motives.

I work every day on these negotiations. I work so that each player from Blake Griffin to Tyler Hansbrough, Pau Gasol to De'Andre Jordan, Dwight Howard to Jrue Holiday, Taj Gibson to Danny Granger, Steve Nash to Luke Babbit and every single player get a fair and reasonable deal. Not just for this year, not just for next year but for years to come. So that the league that WE the players largely helped build, continues to grow and thrive.

So to address the agents that have decided to say their piece yesterday, I don't mind. Perhaps they are trying to make news. Perhaps they just want to show you, their clients, they are working hard. But what would be appreciated by the 400+ players would be the support of our agents and constructive ideas, suggestions and solutions that are in our best interests. Not the push for a drastic move that leaves their players without a union, without pensions, without health care. We just aren't there.

I will remain committed to finding resolution to this because I know how important this is. I ask you to remain united with me and your over 400 allies, friends, brothers and colleagues. We are a powerful group if we remain united and focused on the task at hand.

I urge every single one of you to call me, text me, email me with anything. An idea, a suggestion, a concern, a question. I represent you. I work for you.

So to each player, each fan, each agent, each media member who ends up reading this...I stand behind this message. It comes from me, a 15 year veteran of basketball, the game I dreamt of playing as a kid, the game I love so much. I'm a teammate, I'm a father, I'm a son, I'm a husband, I'm a brother, but right now, the role I must work so hard to honor is the one as PA President. And I ask each of you to stand with me, stand by me and urge the league and the owners to come together and allow the game of basketball to continue to grow and thrive. We're ready.

Sincerely,

Derek


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Is there any truth to the rumors that if the lockout continues, Tyler Hansborough will be taking a job at the Indianapolis Public Library as a reader for storytime in the Children's dept?

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It looks like the first shoe has dropped in that the NBA will cancel training camps and at least 2 weeks of warmup games, effective October 4th, according to multiple reports. There's no progress to report in the ongoing labor negotiations, and the likelihood of actual games being cancelled is increasing by the minute. I think you start to worry if there's no new deal come late December or early January if there will be any NBA basketball at all this season.


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I just wanted to remind many of you who laughed at me for years when I said Tyler Hansborough would be a really good NBA player. As with most things I was right.

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