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That is according to several sources. As good as done.

Interesting (possible) dominoes could fall as a result. According to orangebloods.com:
Sources said Thursday the SEC would be interested in adding Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and Virginia Tech in addition to Texas A&M to form a 16-team super conference. Florida State has also been mentioned as a possible target of the SEC, according to Big 12 sources.
If that were to happen - I know, a long shot - that would be an amazing powerhouse college FB conference.......

Texas does not want this to happen, but then again it's all their fault for getting their own freaking network to broadcasts all of their sports. Oh yeah, and they wanted to broadcast all of the HS football games in the state too. :lol: :roll:

Another interesting theory is that Texas would seek out Notre Dame to form a new conference together, as they would not want to become independent (read: no other major conference would even consider them with that ridiculous network deal).

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If this does happen, I think we can have a moment of silence for the Big 12.

Also, How come TCU didn't join the Big 12 after last season, is it because the Big East is more winnable. I know it was probably said, but just can't remember right now.


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If this does happen, I think we can have a moment of silence for the Big 12.

Also, How come TCU didn't join the Big 12 after last season, is it because the Big East is more winnable. I know it was probably said, but just can't remember right now.

Probably because the Big 12 is crumbling away right before our eyes......

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:18 am 
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D-Day Appears Imminent for 10 member Big 12

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August 22 appears to be D-Day for the 10-member Big 12 as we know it.

Three sources close to the situation said Texas A&M's regents board will meet on August 22 to deliberate and likely vote on an application to join the Southeastern Conference as early as 2012.

Texas A&M System spokesman Jason Cook denied reports that A&M has already agreed to join the SEC.

"There's no agreement in principle, nothing," Cook told Orangebloods.com.

Two sources said the SEC presidents are being gathered Saturday in an emergency meeting to address the possible addition of Texas A&M.

The question is if anything can slow the apparent momentum. Sources across the Big 12 said lawmakers were being contacted in hopes of reaching Texas A&M officials to fully consider preserving all the history and tradition between Texas A&M and the Texas schools in the Big 12.

On Friday, the House Higher Education Committee in the Texas Legislature scheduled a meeting for Aug. 16 to take up the issue. Last year, legislative hearings were called right before the Big 12 - on the verge of breakup last June - came back together.


Sources say the Aggies' nine-member regents board is leaning toward leaving the Big 12 and are being fueled by a lack of confidence in the current configuration of the league - i.e. the relationship between Texas and ESPN (the Longhorn Network) and how it could negatively impact the rest of the members.

There's growing concern in the Big 12 that A&M is already well down the road toward joining the SEC.

According to multiple sources close to the situation, Aggies' president Bowen Loftin met with SEC officials prior to an Aug. 1 meeting among Big 12 athletic directors in Dallas to discuss how to co-exist with Texas and its Longhorn Network (LHN).

Loftin apparently aired A&M's grievances against LHN to SEC officials during the meeting. Cook said he wasn't aware of any such meeting.

"I think this is pretty far along," one administrator at a Big 12 school said of A&M's courtship with the SEC.

One of A&M's concerns - LHN airing high school games - was eliminated on Thursday when the NCAA ruled no high school games would be allowed to be shown on school or conference networks.

But it didn't appear the NCAA's ruling would have much bearing on A&M's momentum toward the SEC, sources said.

The SEC has been eerily quiet about all the speculation surrounding Texas A&M. But sources said SEC commissioner Mike Slive and Texas A&M president Bowen Loftin have formed a relationship since Slive visited College Station last June during the Big 12 Missile Crisis.

Loftin was impressed by Slive when it appeared half the Big 12 was headed to the Pac-10, and Slive made a pitch to Texas A&M to head east - not west.

The two have spoken intermittently since then, sources said. Bowen's most recent visit with Slive apparently happened on SEC turf two weeks ago, according to sources.

Upon learning of Loftin's alleged meeting with SEC officials before huddling with Big 12 ADs on Aug. 1, one official at a Big 12 school questioned the Aggies and their Code of Honor, which states, "An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal, or tolerate those who do."

The source said Texas A&M made a 10-year pledge to hold the Big 12 Conference together when ABC/ESPN vowed a year ago to keep paying the Big 12 as if it was still a 12-member league with a championship game. The source also questioned if A&M might be liable for breach of contract after signing a 13-year, $1.17 billion TV contract with Fox Sports for the Big 12's second-tier rights to football in April.

An A&M source told Orangebloods.com the Aggies are having their lawyers look at everything, including the exit fees A&M would have to pay to leave the Big 12.

Under the current bylaws, Texas A&M would be required to relinquish 80 percent of revenues over a two-year period if the Aggies left with only a year's notice.

Nebraska and Colorado were able to pay substantially less than that by settling with the Big 12.

Sources said Thursday the SEC would be interested in adding Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and Virginia Tech in addition to Texas A&M to form a 16-team super conference. Florida State has also been mentioned as a possible target of the SEC, according to Big 12 sources.

Two officials at separate Big 12 schools said Oklahoma and Oklahoma State would stay in the Big 12 as long as the other schools were willing to stay together. A third official in the Big 12 said the remaining nine schools were "solid."

Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds said Wednesday it would be Texas' goal to hold the Big 12 together. But if there wasn't sentiment for that he said Texas and a school like Notre Dame should look at starting their own conference. Dodds has said he is against Texas going independent.

A high-ranking official at a Big 12 school said the Pac-12 could re-enter the picture if Texas A&M leaves for the SEC. The official said Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott has indicated he would love to set up regional networks in Oklahoma and Texas Tech to accommodate Oklahoma and Oklahoma State as well as Texas and Texas Tech.

Scott said in an e-mail Thursday night he's "fully focused on developing the Pac-12" and would have no further comment.

Such a plan by Scott would require a complete re-working of the 20-year, $300 million Longhorn Network contract between Texas and ESPN, which is obviously a massive undertaking that would require Texas to give a little in terms of revenue sharing.


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I bet there is a lot of $$$$ involved if Texas A&M joins the SEC. They're not the only school that could be SEC-bound. Florida State might not be far behind and who knows after that...


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I bet there is a lot of $$$$ involved if Texas A&M joins the SEC. They're not the only school that could be SEC-bound. Florida State might not be far behind...

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I bet there is a lot of $$$$ involved if Texas A&M joins the SEC. They're not the only school that could be SEC-bound. Florida State might not be far behind...

SHARK has me on ignore. :(

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It will be interesting to see if this impacts the Big 10 at all, and if they consider adding some more teams if/when the Big 12 crumbles

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I thought when Texas stayed, that the major realignment talk would be done, now it looks like it will be heating up again, if the Sec got what it wants, there would be about 16 teams, then the rest of the Big 12 teams, probably half go to the Pac 12 and the other half to the Big 10.


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It will be interesting to see if this impacts the Big 10 at all, and if they consider adding some more teams if/when the Big 12 crumbles

I know from a marketing and business standpoint, it's still called the Big Ten even though there are 12 schools in the league now that Nebraska is officially a member. I wish they would change the name of the conference, especially because the Big Ten name doesn't make much sense anymore.


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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/spo ... 94204.html

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"First of all, Texas A&M has to go this time. Whether it's a smart move is another conversation. Credibility is an even bigger issue.

For the second time in about 14 months, the Aggies are holding their breath, stomping their feet and threatening to take their toys and bolt for the Southeastern Conference.

They've apparently discovered the Longhorn Network will be one long University of Texas infomercial, and you just can't get anything past the Aggies anymore...."


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"This is a huge opportunity for UH, which could be looking at its first legitimate shot to get into a BCS conference.

For the past couple of years, UH officials have believed Texas A&M would block it from the Big 12. With A&M out of the way, UH might have clear sailing.

UH fans shouldn't get their hopes up just yet because there's always the chance the Aggies change their mind."


As a born and raised Southwest Conference gal, I sure wold hate to see the Aggies leave the Big 12. However, as a Houstonian, and the child of two University of Houston undergrads (Ph.Ds from A&M though), I spent my youth going to Houston Cougar games, and would love to see them enter a BCS conference. But I would hate to see the UT - A&M rivalry gone. UT - OU rivalry is NOT the same to me. I don't know...I don't know what I think. Except I wish we could just go back to the Southwest Conference, and it be 1990 and I'm 21 and the NFL team in Houston was the Oilers...

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ESPN is reporting that A&M is close to joining the SEC, and also a possibility of Florida State, Clemson, and Missouri.

It should be intresting to see how it all falls out, the sad thing is we may start to lose some of the rivalries that were used to.


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It will be interesting to see if this impacts the Big 10 at all, and if they consider adding some more teams if/when the Big 12 crumbles


I could see Missouri being back in play. Kansas/K State would be interesting to see where they go. I think OK/OSU are too far away, same for Baylor....

Iowa State would probably end up in the MAC.


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Sounds like ESPN jumped the gun on this story and some other people, SEC say they are staying at 12 teams right now.


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Although the SEC has decided to stay at 12 schools for now, the subject is going to come up again. It's all about the money, and the SEC eventually would like to tap into the Dallas & Houston TV markets if Texas A&M eventually joins. Even though the SEC has quite a TV deal right now with ESPN, I think Texas A&M is absolutely livid that fellow Big 12 school Texas recently cut a deal with the "Worldwide Leader" to start up the new Longhorn Network. They feel that the new Longhorn Network will give the school an unfair edge when it comes to recruiting. This story is far from over.


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Looks like this has happened. The SEC needs to find a 14th member now. Texas and Notre Dame have to be more concerned than they ever were before. They'll have options but for the first time others may have more power than them.

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Looks like this has happened. The SEC needs to find a 14th member now. Texas and Notre Dame have to be more concerned than they ever were before. They'll have options but for the first time others may have more power than them.

I agree with that. ND should have "sold high" a few years back.

I'd be more worried if I were Iowa State though. :lol:

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Things don't look good for them if the four superconferences idea actually happens.

I assume that the ACC/Big East would merge into 16 football schools.
Big Ten has 4 spots.
SEC has 3 spots.
Pac 12 has 4 spots.

8 football schools for the Big East.
12 schools in the ACC.
Notre Dame
9 schools in the Big 12

That's 30 schools with 27 spots left.

Iowa State, Kansas, and Kansas State could be out.

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Iowa State, Kansas, and Kansas State could be out.

So they'd join the Mountain West and try to "strengthen" that conference in hopes of getting the 5th BCS slot? Or would the BCS just stay at 4?

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The ball is entirely in Oklahoma's court. If they defect (and it would have to be to the Pac-12), everything will unravel. If they don't, there will be one more move to the SEC and things will stay relatively stable. The Big Ten really doesn't want to add anyone unless they are Notre Dame.

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I guess they'd try but in that nightmare scenario for them I think it's more likely they accept where they are and try and win the first ever NCAA Division 1 playoff. :lol:

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The ball is entirely in Oklahoma's court. If they defect (and it would have to be to the Pac-12),

Why couldn't they follow A&M to SEC?

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Why would the SEC want A&M? Would this just be a way to eventually get Texas? Sorry for my ignorance here

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Why would the SEC want A&M? Would this just be a way to eventually get Texas? Sorry for my ignorance here

With or without Texas, they've just grabbed a major foothold in the strongest football state in the nation.

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Why would the SEC want A&M? Would this just be a way to eventually get Texas? Sorry for my ignorance here

A way to expand further west. I could see Oklahoma being the other team that joins up.

Texas is going to wind up an independent...this Longhorn Network thing is going to basicall assure them of that.

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The ball is entirely in Oklahoma's court. If they defect (and it would have to be to the Pac-12),

Why couldn't they follow A&M to SEC?

Oklahoma politics are weird. State is probably a package deal, plus SEC has shown a strange amount of reluctance to even consider Oklahoma.
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Why would the SEC want A&M? Would this just be a way to eventually get Texas? Sorry for my ignorance here

Houston market, but it is a bit odd, especially if there isn't a quality 14. Can't see 13 remaining for too long, but I've been wrong before.

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I am with you Northside Dan, also why would A&M want to go to the SEC, played and SEC team in their last 2 bowl appearances and have gotten trounced.


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I am with you Northside Dan, also why would A&M want to go to the SEC, played and SEC team in their last 2 bowl appearances and have gotten trounced.

Sweet, sweet money. Things have worked just fine for Arkansas and South Carolina, and neither has won a conference championship in 20 years.

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Texas is going to wind up an independent...this Longhorn Network thing is going to basicall assure them of that.


I think they will end up in the PAC 10. I think there are a lot of folks at Texas that have wanted that all along.

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I am with you Northside Dan, also why would A&M want to go to the SEC, played and SEC team in their last 2 bowl appearances and have gotten trounced.

Sweet, sweet money. Things have worked just fine for Arkansas and South Carolina, and neither has won a conference championship in 20 years.

That's exactly why Texas A&M wants to go to the SEC. Besides, ESPN has more than a passing interest in that conference, just like it has with the University of Texas and its upcoming Longhorn Network. A&M wants a piece of the pie...


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