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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:45 pm 
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Getting an open door into Texas provides value to all the other schools. I really hope I am wrong on this as I do not think it would be right to let them in with their TV deal, but I still think Texas finds a way to pull this off.

Except it wouldn't be an "open door to Texas" if they are playing all of their football games on their own network in that state. In fact, that would be a door that is pretty much "closed".

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:58 pm 
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The probelm with the Longhorn Network right now is it's not on any big time cable or satelite package.

If you watched College Gameday, I thought it was interesting that after the years of the Texas-Texas A&M rivalry, Desmond Howard said after this year, you will never see those teams ever want to play each other.


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Getting an open door into Texas provides value to all the other schools. I really hope I am wrong on this as I do not think it would be right to let them in with their TV deal, but I still think Texas finds a way to pull this off.

Except it wouldn't be an "open door to Texas" if they are playing all of their football games on their own network in that state. In fact, that would be a door that is pretty much "closed".
Not to mention that there is no way that people in Oregon are going to easily get the Longhorn Network unless it's virtually given away to them. It would really suck for whoever is playing Texas that the game isn't on television there.

They'll do a face saving move, and when Texas plays on ESPN it will be labeled as being on the Longhorn Network for non-conference home games and volleyball matches but the thing is dead if the Big 12 falls apart unless Texas goes independent.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:13 pm 
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Desmond Howard said after this year, you will never see those teams ever want to play each other.


Desmond Howard is an idiot.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:16 pm 
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Texas and Texas A&M will take a few years off but once the guys in charge change they'll bring the rivalry back. I would think Nebraska and Oklahoma would too at some point.

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Missouri is also really interesting in all of this. They could go to the Pac 16, B1G, or SEC or not get invited to any of them. They are a big enough name that they'll find themselves with a home somewhere but it's really hard to tell where they end up.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:24 pm 
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A source close to Texas said Saturday the Longhorn Network can be reworked to allow the Longhorns to join the Pac-12, if that's the course Texas officials choose to take.

No schools are allowed to have their own network in the Pac-12, where commissioner Larry Scott has set up a series of regional networks in which two schools pool their third-tier rights and share revenue.

Scott, who attended the Oregon-LSU game at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, told reporters Texas would not be allowed to keep the current incarnation of the Longhorn Network in the Pac-12.

Scott went out of his way to tell reporters the Pac-12 has been contacted by schools and has not reached out to any schools or been predatory in any way.

But the source close to Texas told Orangebloods.com the Pac-12 has given the Longhorns an indication LHN could be reworked if Texas wanted to become part of what would be the Pac-16 - along with OU, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech.

The source said if Oklahoma leaves the Big 12 for the Pac-12, Texas would likely follow.

"Leaning that way," the source said.

Last summer, it was Oklahoma saying it would stick with Texas no matter what. This time around, it appears Texas is going to stick with Oklahoma.

Texas lawmakers will have some serious questions for the Longhorns, sources said. Lawmakers said they didn't take an aggressive approach with Texas A&M withdrawing from the Big 12 because they were reassured - in part by Texas - that the Big 12 would survive without A&M.

But the Texas source said OU president David Boren appears to be ready to bolt the Big 12 for the Pac-12, and if that happens, Texas would consider the Big 12 dead and have little choice but to go with OU, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech to the Pac-12.


Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds told The Associated Press Saturday the Longhorns love the Big 12 and want to stay in it, but Dodds added he'll be watching to see what happens to the conference in the next few days.

Oklahoma president David Boren indicated on Friday the Sooners are actively looking at their options in terms of a conference home.

Reports out of Oklahoma on Saturday indicate the Sooners are now focused solely on a possible future in the Pac-12.

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held a conference call on Friday without Texas, Oklahoma and Texas A&M's presidents and told the remaining presidents of the Big 12 to "work on Texas."

Beebe said on the call he believes Oklahoma will not get a bid to the Pac-12 unless Texas is part of the deal, sources said. But a source close to the situation told Orangebloods.com Oklahoma and Oklahoma State would be accepted into the Pac-12 if they wanted in.

An industry source with direct knowledge of the Longhorn Network said Texas has not indicated to ESPN, which owns and operates LHN, that it has any plans to go west.

That industry source said reworking the Longhorn Network to accommodate the Pac-12 would be "very difficult" but not impossible.

Meanwhile, there was acrimony all over the Big 12 on Saturday.

Oklahoma State, which has a seat on the five-member, Big 12 expansion committee, appears to be losing faith in the future of the league.

At least that's the opinion of Oklahoma State billionaire booster Boone Pickens, who said Saturday he thinks the Cowboys will end up in the Pac-12 and that the Big 12 won't be around in five years.

Pickens' comments follow those of OU president David Boren, who on Friday referenced an unstable Big 12 and said no one has been more active than the Sooners in exploring their options.

Missouri athletic director Mike Alden told The Associated Press Boren's comments did major damage to any attempt to stabilize the Big 12 after Texas A&M's withdrawal from the conference.

"It's somewhat surprising that comment came out because I know everybody's been working together," Alden told The Associated Press Saturday. "You put something like that out there and it just reinforces that image of being unstable."

Missouri's chancellor Brady Deaton is chairing the Big 12's expansion committee, which also includes Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds, Oklahoma AD Joe Castiglione and Kansas State's John Currie.

Currie told the AP Saturday his school remains committed to the Big 12.

The only question at the moment appears to be for how long?

Stay tuned.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:28 pm 
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Missouri is also really interesting in all of this. They could go to the Pac 16, B1G, or SEC or not get invited to any of them. They are a big enough name that they'll find themselves with a home somewhere but it's really hard to tell where they end up.


IMO Missouri makes the most sense for the Big 10.

I can see the Big 10 expanding with 2 more teams or maybe they will go to 16 teams and include a Pitt or Rutgers in the deal.

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I think Missouri makes a lot of sense too, though it won't have quite the impact of Nebraska.

If it wasn't for football Kansas would make a ton of sense too. It's a shame that basketball means very little here even though that is what really sells the BTN with the amount of programming it provides.

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Interesting news today. SEC will only accept A&M if every Big 12 team signs agreement to not sue the SEC. Baylor has been rumored to be a lock to sue if A&M leaves.

Also talked to a buddy of mine down in Texas who is a big time Longhorn fan and he said one of the rumors down there the last couple days is that the Big 10 has sent out feelers to Texas and told them they would accept them with their TV deal if they would agree to not receive any revenue from the Big 10 Network.

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RFDC wrote:
Also talked to a buddy of mine down in Texas who is a big time Longhorn fan and he said one of the rumors down there the last couple days is that the Big 10 has sent out feelers to Texas and told them they would accept them with their TV deal if they would agree to not receive any revenue from the Big 10 Network.


I can't believe there hasn't been more speculation on this. I would think Texas would have more interest in the Big Ten than the Pac-12.

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Also talked to a buddy of mine down in Texas who is a big time Longhorn fan and he said one of the rumors down there the last couple days is that the Big 10 has sent out feelers to Texas and told them they would accept them with their TV deal if they would agree to not receive any revenue from the Big 10 Network.
That's interesting. That would be a good "face saving" move for Texas as that deal could run through while the games are simulcast on both networks. The money would probably be about equal anyways.

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Also talked to a buddy of mine down in Texas who is a big time Longhorn fan and he said one of the rumors down there the last couple days is that the Big 10 has sent out feelers to Texas and told them they would accept them with their TV deal if they would agree to not receive any revenue from the Big 10 Network.
That's interesting. That would be a good "face saving" move for Texas as that deal could run through while the games are simulcast on both networks. The money would probably be about equal anyways.


I thought it was rather interesting as well and I would think it would be a win/win for both Texas and the Big 10.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:06 pm 
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So this is how the new Longhorn Network works:

Nobody, and I mean nobody, can see their games for a couple years in the hopes that people will pay to see them in a couple years or so?

Yeah. This was a good idea.

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I just wish the Southwest Conference would re-form. Now, THOSE were the days!

Yeah, I'm old...deal with it! :lol:

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http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7063633/missouri-tigers-hope-join-sec-had-wanted-big-ten-invite-most

The Big Texas conference is almost here.

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