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 Post subject: Re: Beasley vs Rose
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:43 am 
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You were predicting that the Bulls would beat Miami in the playoffs, so if you were also predicting they would lose to them, you were apparently talking out of both sides of your mouth. Deng is not a #2, but most of your opinions are.

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 Post subject: Re: Beasley vs Rose
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:51 am 
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You were predicting that the Bulls would beat Miami in the playoffs, so if you were also predicting they would lose to them, you were apparently talking out of both sides of your mouth. Deng is not a #2, but most of your opinions are.

He's a decent third guy. He's much better than you were saying he would be. As is Rose and Noah. Beasley has sucked since day 1. I'd throw up my basketball opinions vs yours any day big guy.

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 Post subject: Re: Beasley vs Rose
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:23 pm 
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You were predicting that the Bulls would beat Miami in the playoffs, so if you were also predicting they would lose to them, you were apparently talking out of both sides of your mouth. Deng is not a #2, but most of your opinions are.

He's a decent third guy. He's much better than you were saying he would be. As is Rose and Noah. Beasley has sucked since day 1. I'd throw up my basketball opinions vs yours any day big guy.



I'm not sure to what statement of mine you are referring. I said Deng isn't a #2. Did I mention anything about his status as a #3?

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 Post subject: Re: Beasley vs Rose
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:32 pm 
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In referring to your thoughts in general from that time period. Like saying Beasley would immediately be better than him or mocking anyone who thought he was good by saying they thought he would be a perennial 20-10 guy. You can backpedal if you choose but contrary to what you think I am not an idiot and do have a good memory. See the quote below. You exaggerated nearly every opinion of mine and they still turned out to be more accurate than your misguided thoughts. So please, continue....

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I didnt know that. If thats true, then it could very easily be done with us absorbing the Banks and Blount terrible contracts. I think we both know Im right though that Pax is too conservative to even explore such a trade.


No one has disputed Pax's reticence to make a deal. The question was weather the trade is a good idea, and there's no question in my mind that I would much rather have a core of Beasley and Rose than Deng and Rose.

I have to say, though, that I find it more than a little amusing that you position yourself as a "basketball realist", a veritable fountain of commonsense in a hoops world gone mad. In the past year, you have labeled Hinrich a near elite level point guard with lockdown defensive capabilities, categorized Luol Deng as a future perennial 20 and 10 guy with elite ability, identified Tyrus Thomas as a player who possesses a better chance of becoming a superstar than the aforementioned eventual 20 and 10 guy Deng, and have described Joakim Noah as a likely defensive enforcer and dominating rebounder on the order of Tyson Chandler. If you put this magnificent assortment of players together with Rose, who you also regard as a future dominant player, then there's no need for the roster to be adjusted at all, is there? All we need to do is let the coming championship season--not this year, but perhaps the next one--unfold before our very eyes. Excuse me, but if this is your version of basketball "reality", I think I choose to remain exiled to the realm of "fantasy".

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 Post subject: Re: Beasley vs Rose
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In referring to your thoughts in general from that time period. Like saying Beasley would immediately be better than him or mocking anyone who thought he was good by saying they thought he would be a perennial 20-10 guy. You can backpedal if you choose but contrary to what you think I am not an idiot and do have a good memory. See the quote below. You exaggerated nearly every opinion of mine and they still turned out to be more accurate than your misguided thoughts. So please, continue....

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I didnt know that. If thats true, then it could very easily be done with us absorbing the Banks and Blount terrible contracts. I think we both know Im right though that Pax is too conservative to even explore such a trade.


No one has disputed Pax's reticence to make a deal. The question was weather the trade is a good idea, and there's no question in my mind that I would much rather have a core of Beasley and Rose than Deng and Rose.

I have to say, though, that I find it more than a little amusing that you position yourself as a "basketball realist", a veritable fountain of commonsense in a hoops world gone mad. In the past year, you have labeled Hinrich a near elite level point guard with lockdown defensive capabilities, categorized Luol Deng as a future perennial 20 and 10 guy with elite ability, identified Tyrus Thomas as a player who possesses a better chance of becoming a superstar than the aforementioned eventual 20 and 10 guy Deng, and have described Joakim Noah as a likely defensive enforcer and dominating rebounder on the order of Tyson Chandler. If you put this magnificent assortment of players together with Rose, who you also regard as a future dominant player, then there's no need for the roster to be adjusted at all, is there? All we need to do is let the coming championship season--not this year, but perhaps the next one--unfold before our very eyes. Excuse me, but if this is your version of basketball "reality", I think I choose to remain exiled to the realm of "fantasy".


As I make clear in this thread, I thought Beasley was going to be very good. Obviously, I was wrong. Saying that he was going to be better than Deng doesn't mean I thought Deng couldn't be a #3. Historically, my argument has been with people who think Deng is good enough to be a #2 on a championship team. To me, he's never shown that ability and likely never will.

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 Post subject: Re: Beasley vs Rose
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I would absolutely love to get Beasley from the Heat and I would be willing to give up just about anyone on our roster to do it. But my question would be, why in the world would Miami do it? Who on our roster would interest them enough to give up the #2 pick in the draft?

:lol: that there is some bbt's

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Looks like I was right

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 Post subject: Re: Beasley vs Rose
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:39 pm 
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Bease was going up against Noah, for cryin' out loud...of course he will look like a superstar. people who keep supporting Noah need to watch the games...

:lol: Of course Cof comes in with the worst basketball thought in the thread

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