Agreed on all points. Not having the automomy to audible is a joke.

Cutler didn't have a bad game, his receivers dropped at least 4 passes I can remember (davis, williams, knox had 2) and the Bears ran for what 10 yards, Cutler probably had 7 of those yards. The offensive talent on the Bears around Cutler is awful.

Jordy Nelson would be the best receiver on the Bears, on the Packers he is what 4th of 5th?

Cutler is an average QB. But for the Bears that is good enough.

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i think the jeff george comparisons are starting look look more and more apt.

You're just trolling trying to piss off Bears fans

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After seeing 2 1/4 years of this crap here is my summation.
1-Bears should not have traded for Cutler. Orton is just as serviceable.
2-Cutler will languish here and if I were him, I would seek a trade as soon as possible.
3-Through Cutler's tenure here they will never win a SB. They may have seasons like last year, but they will be few and far between.
4-Defense will continue to be exposed as they were today.
5-Get what you can for Hester. He is a one trick pony.

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Cutler is not the problem with the Bears....he is not an elite QB but he is NOT the problem

Can you see Matt Schaub, Flacco, Eli doing any better with the garbage Cutler has to work with? Or even Philip Rivers?

Take away Forte's 42 yard run last week and he has carried 18 times for 9 yards the last 2 weeks.

So whom do we blame? I blame smith as much as Angelo. He's running a mid 90s defense with a mid 90s offense. He's got the playersnhe asked for. Remember Adam archuleta? That was not Angelo. Cutler is as good as he will get with this team. It is not all martz. Cutler keeps getting a pass. He has had time to progress. Time to admit itmis the player at qb, not just everyone else.

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You cannot make me care about the WNBA.

Phillip Rivers is a much better QB than the others you listed. Yeah I'd be worried if they had him.

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You make that trade for cutler. he has not performed as he should. he needs to do better. it's disappointing.

they need to put better players around him.

The Martz offense does not maximize his skill set. He is better than this offense makes him look. The fact that he can not audible is a joke. He should have that option. He is also quite good outside the pocket but Martz will not allow him to leave it.

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I think Rivers is somewhat overated. What has Philip Rivers ever won? The Chargers have had great talent over the years and they been to one conference championship game, the same as Cutler but according to some people the Bears can't win with Cutler.

I think Rivers is a better QB than Cutler, but I think the difference is smaller than most think.

Yeah, good point, he needs to perform better but they aren't exactly helping him out. They are wasting the talent he does have. It's really a shame.

What really is Jay's talent? Holding the ball too long, taking a sack rather than rolling out or running, or throwing picks? Any QB can throw hard, so that really isn't a talent. I thought Cutler would be a savior, he's just part of the problem.

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What part of my statement above is so "out there"?

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No need for name calling. [*]

Especially not the R word.

Now if you called him R-Truth, that'd be sweet.

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Even beginning to judge what Cutler ultimately is on the Bears without anything resembling an NFL WR corps, is entirely moronic. And even if he has time, do you really think that somewhere in his mind he isn't wondering when the next wetting of the pants, comes?

I absolutely agree with the idea that skills wise, Cutler could conceivably be tops in the league. And I watched him almost get into the playoffs in Denver with a team that had three legit NFL WR's, and little else. No running game and a young O-line that was not playing well. But they played to his strengths.

There is really no other position in sport that relies on teammates so heavily. People want to hug Rodgers' nuts with the talent on that offense, and then crucify Cutler? They have a WR in Jones that would immediately be the #1 on the Bears based on pure talent, but he cannot find the field on Packers.

Remove head from anus...

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- Dan Bernstein, 2016

Just a public service reminder for anyone reading your posts.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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Your best bears post ever.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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The Broncos had one of the best OL's in the NFL in '08. Sorry, he sucks.

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So.... Nothing?

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Those are his fault and he needs to handle it better. But...there really isn't one part of his offense that can help him. The line had penalties today and can't block for shit. He doesn't trust his receivers and they suck. Knox is terrible. I think that's why he holds on to the ball whether he is conscious of it or not. There is no running game. I did not see most of the first half though.

I thought he'd be better too.

1. i agree..cutler is slightly better..but not 2 first round picks better and a 4th rounder..need an o line before you trade 2 drafts away for a qb
2. martz is gone in 15 weeks..smith and angelo will be a year after him
3. worse qb's than cutler have won a superbowl..angelo n smith n phillips are the ones who are holding the team back
4. agreed..they are old and would have been exposed last year if peppers did not bail them out..combined with no injuries and an insane amount of back up qb's
5. hester has little value..maybe a 5th round pick

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I still think that Lovie is a very good coach. There aren't many out there who could win as many games as he has with this dysfunctional mom-and-pop organization.

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Git on back there.

The Broncos finished 8-8 that year giving up 448 points that year, only the Rams and Lions gave up more points and they won 2 games combined.

In fact no team since 1978 have given up more points than the Broncos did that year and still finished .500.

huh? lovie fired everyone and hired his people.. lovie hired martz...lovie is the dummy who mismanages the clock and makes bad challenges ..lovie is the defensive guru who can't find a safety to play in his lame ass zone defense..angelo can not draft so that hurts but lovie has some say in the draft

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Agree with almost everything.

Jay Cutler might not ever be that good. Then again, he might be very good. The problem is that there is no way to tell. This is not just a mediocre or even bad offense, talent-wise. It is horrendous. If the Bears had any semblance of talent at any position other than QB or RB, it would be fair to judge. It is not. They are the least talented offense in the NFL at the WR and OL positions. Their only two WRs that even resemble "weapons" are a converted 3rd rd cornerback/athlete and a 5th rd WR. Oh, and they are running an offense that was successful one time 15 years ago with 5 future hall of famers.

Cutler makes occasional bad throws. He is also constantly looking down the field at WRs who are blanketed, can't get off jams, or aren't running the right routes. Assuming he does get a good 4 seconds to throw, and a receiver actually gets open, how the hell could he possibly be focusing on staying in the pocket, maintaining footwork, reading the defense correctly, and delivering the ball where it should be? Offense is about rhythm and timing. There is no QB in the NFL who would succeed in this offense. None, including Rodgers.... he would be better than Cutler, but he would not put up prolific numbers.

If they gave us a fair chance to judge, and Cutler sucked, I would be the first to admit it. I won't say it with the hand he's been dealt.

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