It is currently Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:49 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 89 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
[img]http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50553_47924244850_520392_n.jpg[/img


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:08 pm
Posts: 5753
Location: Crown Point, IN
pizza_Place: Beggars
Hey now, Mike Quade just started his run at managerial greatness.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:52 pm
Posts: 12816
Location: My Pants
pizza_Place: Geo's Pizza
Ill take Bobby Cox first, but LaRussa as a very close 10th. Come on man. Has ANY manager benefitted as much from steroids as him? McGwire? Canseco? Pujols?

_________________
The Original Spanky wrote:
I don't like white rappers.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:03 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72380
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Ill take Bobby Cox first, but LaRussa as a very close 10th. Come on man. Has ANY manager benefitted as much from steroids as him? McGwire? Canseco? Pujols?

The Cub fan in you added that third name.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:05 pm
Posts: 68612
pizza_Place: Lina's Pizza
Hard to dispute.

6 World Series?

He's an assbag, but he sure can manage.

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:33 pm
Posts: 300
Location: ICIA
pizza_Place: Magliozzi's
not even close.

_________________
Git on back there.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:23 pm
Posts: 16779
pizza_Place: Little Caesar's
Top 10 Managers in Chicago, all time:

1. Terry Bevington
2. Jim Essian
3. Jim Riggleman
4. Tom Treblehorn
5. College of Coaches
6. Player/Manager Paul Konerko
7. Mike Quade
8. Robin Ventura
9. Don Baylor
X. Ozzie Guillen


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:09 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
You have forgotten Bruce Kimm and Don Cooper



Connie Mack laughs at this thread.

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:21 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:35 pm
Posts: 4896
Location: Division 1 Cook County Jail
pizza_Place: NEW YORK STYLE PEPPERONI FROM LOMBARDI'S IN MANHATTAN.
Colonel Angus wrote:
Top 10 Managers in Chicago, all time:

1. Terry Bevington
2. Jim Essian
3. Jim Riggleman
4. Tom Treblehorn
5. College of Coaches
6. Player/Manager Paul Konerko
7. Mike Quade
8. Robin Ventura
9. Don Baylor
X. Ozzie Guillen

+1......Fabulous :salut: !!!!

_________________
There goes one over the fence..Tru Link Fence..Beauty, Privacy Security....Call Tru Link.
Murph's Union 76 Truck Stop....A great Thanksgiving Tradition!!!!

WOO LIFE!!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:29 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Frank Coztansa wrote:
You have forgotten Bruce Kimm and Don Cooper



Connie Mack laughs at this thread.

And La Russa laughs right back and asks Connie if the 3 years he managed against all competition (including blacks) is what made him quit



Pre 1947 might as well not exist.


But fellas, this thread wasnt a discussion. Its one of those stating the fact threads.



Hoffy, He managed against steroid users too. He's managed before and after the steroid era and has been successful all the while.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:33 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
FavreFan wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Ill take Bobby Cox first, but LaRussa as a very close 10th. Come on man. Has ANY manager benefitted as much from steroids as him? McGwire? Canseco? Pujols?

The Cub fan in you added that third name.

That may be true, but its not only cub fans that suspect Pujols.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:35 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
Pujols : Steriods :: Frank Thomas : Clean

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:36 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:35 pm
Posts: 4896
Location: Division 1 Cook County Jail
pizza_Place: NEW YORK STYLE PEPPERONI FROM LOMBARDI'S IN MANHATTAN.
Herman Franks and Don Kessinger demand to be included on the list!

_________________
There goes one over the fence..Tru Link Fence..Beauty, Privacy Security....Call Tru Link.
Murph's Union 76 Truck Stop....A great Thanksgiving Tradition!!!!

WOO LIFE!!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:37 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:35 pm
Posts: 4896
Location: Division 1 Cook County Jail
pizza_Place: NEW YORK STYLE PEPPERONI FROM LOMBARDI'S IN MANHATTAN.
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Pujols : Steriods :: Frank Thomas : Clean

THE OAF AND RIOS......CLEAN!!!

_________________
There goes one over the fence..Tru Link Fence..Beauty, Privacy Security....Call Tru Link.
Murph's Union 76 Truck Stop....A great Thanksgiving Tradition!!!!

WOO LIFE!!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:39 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:49 pm
Posts: 7806
Location: Permanent hiatus
pizza_Place: Ban me
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Pujols : Steriods :: Frank Thomas : Clean


Yup

_________________
spanky wrote:
Elmhurst Steve wrote:
In the grand SCEME (not scope, Dumbass) pf things

Awesome.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:00 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72380
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
rogers park bryan wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Ill take Bobby Cox first, but LaRussa as a very close 10th. Come on man. Has ANY manager benefitted as much from steroids as him? McGwire? Canseco? Pujols?

The Cub fan in you added that third name.

That may be true, but its not only cub fans that suspect Pujols.

Any fool can suspect anyone. Where's the evidence? Please tell me it's more then Darko's weak "He was one of the best players" argument.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:13 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
I dont feel strongly on it but I would go with the whole fat guy who hits well turning into muscle machine that destroys baseballs in the minors.


However, i find it odd that a person could say

I dont buy that the best hitter of the steroid era is clean

and on the other hand they say Frank is clean


Wasnt Frank also one of the best of the steroid era?


Anyways, LaRussa is the GOAT


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:13 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 31, 1969 7:00 pm
Posts: 40983
Location: Chicago
pizza_Place: Lou Malanati's
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Ill take Bobby Cox first, but LaRussa as a very close 10th. Come on man. Has ANY manager benefitted as much from steroids as him? McGwire? Canseco? Pujols?


Can I put Dave Duncan on this list? Regardless, LaRussa gets credit for Duncan.

_________________
"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:51 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
FavreFan wrote:
Any fool can suspect anyone. Where's the evidence? Please tell me it's more then Darko's weak "He was one of the best players" argument.

I get what you are saying, but this season Pujols came back in like 10 or 12 days from a broken wrist. That just doesn't happen without some sort of aid.

When Frank Thomas broke bones in his leg in 2004, he missed 2004 and 85% of 2005 because of it.

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72380
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
Frank Coztansa wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Any fool can suspect anyone. Where's the evidence? Please tell me it's more then Darko's weak "He was one of the best players" argument.

I get what you are saying, but this season Pujols came back in like 10 or 12 days from a broken wrist. That just doesn't happen without some sort of aid.

When Frank Thomas broke bones in his leg in 2004, he missed 2004 and 85% of 2005 because of it.

I don't think you can compare breaking a leg and a wrist. And from what I've heard testing is pretty good these days. There doesn't seem to be any type of evidence against Pujols. There would've been by now if he was guilty.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:08 am
Posts: 14018
Location: Underneath the Grace of Timothy Richard Tebow
pizza_Place: ------
Frank Coztansa wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Any fool can suspect anyone. Where's the evidence? Please tell me it's more then Darko's weak "He was one of the best players" argument.

I get what you are saying, but this season Pujols came back in like 10 or 12 days from a broken wrist. That just doesn't happen without some sort of aid.

When Frank Thomas broke bones in his leg in 2004, he missed 2004 and 85% of 2005 because of it.

Sosa sure took a long time coming back from that hand injury in his career. I think that shows unequivically that he was clean.

_________________
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rpb is wrong. Phil McCracken is useful.

Chus wrote:
RPB is right. You suck. :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:11 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:49 pm
Posts: 7806
Location: Permanent hiatus
pizza_Place: Ban me
FavreFan wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Any fool can suspect anyone. Where's the evidence? Please tell me it's more then Darko's weak "He was one of the best players" argument.

I get what you are saying, but this season Pujols came back in like 10 or 12 days from a broken wrist. That just doesn't happen without some sort of aid.

When Frank Thomas broke bones in his leg in 2004, he missed 2004 and 85% of 2005 because of it.

I don't think you can compare breaking a leg and a wrist. And from what I've heard testing is pretty good these days. There doesn't seem to be any type of evidence against Pujols. There would've been by now if he was guilty.


Many people have said the same thing about a lot of steroid users.

_________________
spanky wrote:
Elmhurst Steve wrote:
In the grand SCEME (not scope, Dumbass) pf things

Awesome.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:11 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
FavreFan wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Any fool can suspect anyone. Where's the evidence? Please tell me it's more then Darko's weak "He was one of the best players" argument.

I get what you are saying, but this season Pujols came back in like 10 or 12 days from a broken wrist. That just doesn't happen without some sort of aid.

When Frank Thomas broke bones in his leg in 2004, he missed 2004 and 85% of 2005 because of it.

I don't think you can compare breaking a leg and a wrist. And from what I've heard testing is pretty good these days. There doesn't seem to be any type of evidence against Pujols. There would've been by now if he was guilty.

The testing is not good. They cant test for HGH.

And several guys have played 20 years without evidence of steroid use and found out to be juicing the whole time.

Im not sure about Albert. I hope he's done it clean.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:39 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:23 pm
Posts: 7415
Location: Liquor in the front, Poker in the rear
pizza_Place: Lou's, Pequod's
Image

_________________
1926-1931-1934-1942-1944-1946-1964-1967-1982-2006-2011


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:37 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:13 pm
Posts: 15062
pizza_Place: Four hours away....and on fire :-(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oHrygs ... _embedded#!

_________________
-- source


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:42 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:22 am
Posts: 15141
pizza_Place: Wha Happen?
I agree with the start of this thread. LaRussa may be a social moron but he's an incredible baseball manager, steroids aside.

_________________
Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:45 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Bump for the vintage LaRussa win.

4 holds, a Save and a questionable PH for his ACE that ends up winning the game


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:59 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 79549
Location: Ravenswood Manor
pizza_Place: Pete's
This is what bernstein hates. Justin. Verlander. was. the . best. damn. pitcher. all. season. All season. A 34 game sample.

Duncan and LaRussa got their team into the playoffs and Carpenter is now the best pitcher for six games and maybe a relief appearance.

It's amusing how Confused danny repeats his mantra that "winning championships is all that counts" and yet he's quick to declare teams that don't better than those that do.

Baseball is a funny game. That's part of what makes it great.

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:01 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:13 pm
Posts: 15062
pizza_Place: Four hours away....and on fire :-(
Technically, Captain Cheeseburger and Halladay had a higher WAR than Verlander, JORR.

_________________
-- source


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:03 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
This is what bernstein hates. Justin. Verlander. was. the . best. damn. pitcher. all. season. All season. A 34 game sample.

Duncan and LaRussa got their team into the playoffs and Carpenter is now the best pitcher for six games and maybe a relief appearance.

It's amusing how Confused danny repeats his mantra that "winning championships is all that counts" and yet he's quick to declare teams that don't better than those that do.

Baseball is a funny game. That's part of what makes it great.

While true, Id still rather a system where most of the time the best teams win.

I do think the first round should be 7. 5 games is too fluke prone


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 89 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 14 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group