False. Why are you ignoring basic facts? Even the combined numbers of Fox's national broadcasts loses to pretty much any combined NFL broadcasts. Now, of course you could be saying that the same guy who is watching the Cubs on Tuesday-Sunday counts 6 times but that's just crazy talk. As you've admitted, people watch games nationally much more in football. It's your standard excuse as to why the World Series struggles to beat Monday Night football(on cable).
So why can't the World Series beat Sunday night football most of the time? Oh that's right, the "most popular" sport of baseball doesn't draw nationally.
26/32 teams had attendance over 90%. The Yankees only drew an average of 60 more fans a game than the last place NFL team on a per game basis. Now, I think that's a meaningless statistic, but since you seem dead set on counting the even more meaningless statistic of "total attendance" then I'm using that one.

It still amuses me that by your logic that the Indianapolis Indians are more popular than the Colts or Pacers.

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That's not my logic. It amuses me that you think grandma who catches five minutes of the Bears game while baking muffins and says football is her favorite sport is equivalent to a guy who travels to see every major league ballpark.

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I doubt that grandma is turning into Jaguars-Titans so I think it's not a fair point.

However, do you feel that when judging the "popularity" of the President that someone who spends all morning listening to Rush and all night watching Fox News should be weighted heavier than me who doesn't even know what station or channel they are on? How much more important is JimmyReardon than me?

It's simple. If the World Series got anywhere close to the ratings of the Super Bowl, it would win. If it was getting ratings equal to an NFL playoff game, it would probably win. If it was consistently beating the competition on the same day, it would win. The problem is that baseball in the prime part of it's season gets absolutely destroyed in tv ratings, coverage, interest, and everything else. You have pointed out one valid point about merchandise sales, which is less flawed but still better than total attendance.

The only way that baseball has a metric that puts it as the clear leader is when they have a 10 to 1 advantage in terms of capacity. The Texas Rangers can fill 15% of the stadium for 81 games and win over the Cowboys filling the stadium 100% for 8 games. That's why the Indianapolis Indians are "more popular" than the Indianapolis Colts. Are you willing to say that's true? I'm not. I have better metrics that show how false that is.

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Well, that's a different thing. You and Jimmy both get exactly one vote. If you don't vote, your favorite means nothing. Which gets to my point. When it comes to actually making a commitment to the games, baseball is far more popular. Football is sort of like a candidate who has great poll numbers, people love to watch him talk on TV, but he loses the election because his fans can't be bothered to actually vote for him. Maybe they aren't really his fans after all.

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Exactly! The system is even called the popular vote.

That's why tv ratings are without question the best way of judging popularity. One vote. Everyone is free to vote either yes or no.
NFL games are attended in far higher percentages than MLB games. The only reason baseball gets more people to attend is because they have 10 times as many games. MLB would be ecstatic if 74% of the stadium being filled was considered terrible. 45% and above puts you in the top 11 in baseball attendance.

NFL fans are more loyal than MLB fans by a wide margin. That's why an NFL team can simply field a team and get 70% of it filled whereas baseball can't even fill 50% of the stadium in multiple cities.

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No it's not. It's because there are only eight games. If there were eight Yankee games they could probably sell them out at $1000 per seat. If there were eight Maple Leaf games, maybe they could get $2000. The fact that there are so few games and many teams can't even sell them out speaks to the commitment- or lack thereof- of the great NFL fans.

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Let's say that was true. Let's say that 100% of hockey and baseball games are sold out for those 8 games. By your criteria, football would be more popular even without sellouts because the total attendance of the Oakland Raiders would be higher than the total attendance at those 8 Yankees games. Even at 100% capacity, the NFL, by virtue of it's larger stadium size, wins. That sounds like a bad metric to me though.

You proved my point JORR! Thanks. I can back out of the thread slowly now.

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Do you ever argue with what people actually write or do you simply argue with what you believe you read?

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Your logic was that if baseball or hockey teams only played 8 regular season games they would sell out 100% of them. The problem is your main argument is that baseball is "more popular" because they have a higher total attendance number and in the hypothetical 8 game season the NFL would win by a considerable margin of 10-20,000 per game.

To me it seems like one point is opposite another. If total attendance is all that matters then the fact that every game would be a sellout doesn't matter. If every game being a sellout matters then the fact that NFL games have a significantly higher level of capacity filled matters.

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That's not my logic. I'm certain that if baseball had a sixteen game schedule, the demand for it would be greater than it is for football. That's all.

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So you no longer believe that total attendance is the way in which popularity should be judged? I ask because under that circumstance no matter how many tickets were sold by baseball or hockey teams they would have significantly less total attendance.

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I've never seen the President change a national speech for baseball.

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Ive never seen a president take his cues on when to speak from the opposing party.

Baseball and college sports suck a fat dick.

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The vast majority of H.S. athletes are not good enough to play at the college level (much less major division 1 programs) and the vast majority of those college athletes are not good enough to play at the professional level. Watching inferior athletes compete with one another was more an interest when you did not have the ability to watch as many professional sports as you can today on TV. The level of coverage is reflective of the interest in college sports. I see the coverage as being very appropriate.

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Let me guess, you lost a College Fantasy Football league, and now you think college sports suck.

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I think college sports are great.... while you are attending college. Once you graduate, it's time to move onto watching the best athletes in the world. I know lots of people enjoy college football and I'll watch some of the top teams to see what players might have a chance to be NFL players in the future. But in general I don't think it's worthy of the time invested.

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Then don't watch it. But that doesn't mean you're correct. I'm not a big football fan in the fist place, but to me, every pro game is pretty much the same. College football has a wide variety of styles and thus, is far more interesting than watching the better athletes run the same routes over and over again.

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Yes, the QB option is massively fucking entertaining.

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Curtis Painter & 0-4 Colts get an 8 share nationally. CC vs Verlander get a 4.7. In NY MNF 12.7, baseball 7.

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http://www.aolnews.com/2010/11/02/world ... ncing-wit/

Dancing With The Stars is the most popular sport. Who knew?

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Well, Sunday Night football did beat it.

However, I don't think that Dancing with the Stars really counts as a sport anyways any more than Survivor or the Amazing Race is.

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Can I bring up a question about the MLB playoffs, I know the NFL is trouncing theses things in the ratings, but do people even care about these.

I listened to the Danny Mac Show yesterday and they didn't really care about them and they wondered if the Rangers-Tigers was cancelled early so they wouldn't go against the Sunday Night Game, I know it was the Bears game last night, so that could be the reason.

Also, I was checking out the ESPN 2 morning show, First Take, and for the whole show, they did all football, if they did baseball it was a little, but buried. I was a little suprised, you think they would talk some about the playoffs since they do show baseball games.

I just wonder on ESPN and they deny this, if they had some of these playoff games, would they talk about them. In a couple years there is a good chance they will have playoff games and possibly the World Series, I bet they would talk about them.

I am a football fan first, but I thought that was a little weird yesterday, I could see the Danny Mac Show, but I would think ESPN would have baseball talk, probably on their radio shows and maybe Sportscenter, but not on every show.

If ESPN had rights to the MLB playoffs, they would be leading off every show with it.

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I agree, they will deny it, but it is true.

This is a terrible show. Its all trivia, almanac, useless facts, gambling, movies, and beer talk.

If they do happen to talk sports, they have terrible ideas and opinions. Their best interviews are with guys like John Clayton. Seriously, John Clayton! These buffoons need to be replaced asap.

WS ratings beat NFL Sunday Night Game!

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Worl ... ngs-102411


Sure it was almost a 50 point NFL blowout and the WS ratings were actually down a little bit from last year, but a win is a win for you baseball people!!

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Spring Training is in full swing yet the NFL and Free Ajent signings are the top sports stories. #NFLisKing

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