I've heard reports that alot of players out there would take 50/50 right now. The owners have a stranglehold on this deal. I think the longer the union holds out, the worse the deal will become.

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That's what is being reported by some people that if there's no deal by next Friday, the owners would take 50/50 off the table and give the players less.

That's always the case. You have about 90% of the league probably living beyond their means. Even with the union forcing them to save money last year that wasn't going to stop them.

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There's reports out that the two sides will be meeting Saturday. I was confident last time, but now it seems like the players want to win something in the courts. I don't think that's going to help negotiations. I expect more fighting, and Billy Hunter chokes a bitch.

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There will come a time when the owners say "Take 50% by Monday or we drop our offer to 48% on Tuesday". That's when it will all be over.

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Maybe. It depends on how many players look at the lockout through Chauncey Billups viewpoint vs how many view it like Big Baby Davis.

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BR is right. There are more broke players that would be happy wit 45% so they can get a check.

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Even though the two sides are scheduled to resume negotiations Saturday afternoon in New York, I don't have a great deal of confidence that a new CBA will become a reality. From what I've read on ESPN.com this afternoon, NBA Commissioner David Stern may very well cancel another wave of games, the first 2 weeks of December and likely putting the Christmas Day games on ESPN, ABC & ESPN Radio involving the Celtics/Knicks, Heat/Mavericks & Bulls/Lakers very much in jeopardy.

Now there's talk that the players might vote for decertifying the union. See ya next season D-Rose....

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Going into last week, starting to look like a deal would be made and even with a meeting scheuled for tommorow, starting to go back where games will be cancelled and possibly the season.

On ESPN, they are running a thing where Chris Broussard has gotten from somebody about tommorow's labor meeting, this is headed for a complete disaster.

Just had it on again, it was GM that told Broussard about tommorow's meeting and where it could be headed, and the GM's will meet before tommorow to discuss things again.

Not what basketball fans, let alone those who work in the arenas themselves want to read or hear...

This is all so depressing and ultimately deflating for the league... Its not like hockey will ever really catch on again, but thisinability to reach a common ground is just so pointless...

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Of course decertification was just a threat. They would have done it before if it was in their best interest.

The owners are now fighting back with that half the owners including Jordan want 47% which isn't going to happen either.

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The NHLPA got 57% of revenues in what was considered a total buttrape of a CBA, and the NHL doesn't make nearly as much money as the NBA. And there are NBA owners who want forty-nine percent for the players? That's a metric ton of horseshit. Some liberal Democrat Herb Kohl is now, huh.

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Reading some of the things on ESPN, somebody put about 20 minutes ago that asked about a deal and they said very close, their latest thing is that mixed signals are coming out of labor's meetings, something's cooking just not sure.

So if I read this right, the players that were at 57%, would now be at 49%, if the players were getting 51, deal done, but at 49 and now with them saying the number will keep going down, I could see them cave and agree by Wednesday.

If they put the owners current deal up for a vote would the majority accept?

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Player reps from all teams are being summoned to New York to be briefed on Tuesday. This can only mean two things. They are heading towards taking a vote on the owners' latest proposal, which I think is highly unlikely given the reactions I have been reading the last day and half, or they are going to move further towards the decertification process. If they go that direction, the season is gone.

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The SCORE's David Schuster mentioned something in one of his updates during the "McNeil and/or Spiegel Show" today that the reps are still leaning thumbs down to the latest, and reportedly final offer. 51% seems like a reasonable-enough request, but it still may not be good enough to save a season that's already going to be shortened with not 1 game played this month.

The offer was a maximum of 51%. Based on reports, that 51% figure was near impossible for the players to be able to reach, and the offer was more like 50%, and potentially 49% if revenues come in low. That's even a worse offer than the previous 50-50 split the owners offered in the last negotation session.

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If the NBAPA votes down the owners' final offer, I've read the basketball-related income would be reduced to 47%.

He did lead Maryland to an NCAA title.

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Now they are reporting on ESPN, that some of the owners expressed displeasure with the 50-50 offer and hope the players reject it.

At least 15 of the owners are praying players say no.

At what point do Stern and the big market owners tell Jordan the other small market teams to shut the fuck up? These guys have torpedoed these talks just as bad as the players. What a clusterfuck...

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Yes, but they need them. It wouldn't be very entertaining with the same 10 teams playing each other night after night.

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Besides 15 NBA owners hoping that players say no to the latest (or is final?) offer, Reents, I saw this on ESPNEWS late last night.

According to ESPN's Chris Broussard, not all the players are necessarily united regarding whether to accept the latest deal or consider possible decertification of the union. One of these player reps, the Cavaliers' Anthony Parker, is reportedly among those who wants the players to reject the latest and possibly final offer. Here's the latest on where things stand:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/72046 ... ource-says

From the article SHARK posted:


Hilarious that they got Rashard Lewis to give a quote about wanting a fair deal. He's probably the best example of what is wrong with the NBA today, and why owners are pushing so hard for rollbacks.

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If they don't agree to a new deal by tomorrow, NBA Commissioner David Stern says the next offer will go down below 50% of basketball-related income. I've got to think something's gotta give. If 51% isn't good enough for these players, what is?

The players were at 57, so that they even agreed to go down to 53 was good and now they want them to go to 50/51, som maybe that's why there not ready to agree to a deal.