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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:29 am 
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...by admitting the omission of his moral responsibility today. Rather than be forced into something he can show that he realizes he owed people more, accept the blame and as a leader is also facing the consequences by stepping down.

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Will never happen.

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There is nothing he can do to restore any dignity.

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He will not address it today. The conference will start with the 'only questions related to this week's game and the current team will be addressed by Coach Paterno.'


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He will not address it today. The conference will start with the 'only questions related to this week's game and the current team will be addressed by Coach Paterno.'

The press should refuse to ask him anything but questions related to this situation until he addresses it.

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He will not address it today. The conference will start with the 'only questions related to this week's game and the current team will be addressed by Coach Paterno.'

The press should refuse to ask him anything but questions related to this situation until he addresses it.

That's the problem with a teleconference...a bunch of ass licking beat writers who need a story, and as soon as things go south, the school can just hang up.

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Once again, Joe PA needs to go away

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He's had too much power for too long. I imagine he thinks he'll weather this storm and move on like nothing happened. He'll ignore it just like he ignored the issue when he found out about it - let other people take the heat and responsibility and act like he's above it all. That it can't touch him.

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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
There is nothing he can do to restore any dignity.

That's pretty much how I see it also.

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Once again, Joe PA needs to go away


Joepa will go Andy Rooney on us once he stops coaching, which is why he want leave by choice.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:19 am 
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He's had too much power for too long. I imagine he thinks he'll weather this storm and move on like nothing happened.


If that's true then he's really the out-of-touch old man bordering on senility that some people have made him out to be for awhile now.

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There is nothing he can do to restore any dignity.

That's pretty much how I see it also.


I believe in salvation. You fuck up. You admit you fuck up. You take your punishment while at the same time doing everything in your power to correct your wrongs. You do not get defined by one act.

I think that would be a sign of the character he has preached for all these years.

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good dolphin wrote:
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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
There is nothing he can do to restore any dignity.

That's pretty much how I see it also.


I believe in salvation. You fuck up. You admit you fuck up. You take your punishment while at the same time doing everything in your power to correct your wrongs. You do not get defined by one act.

I think that would be a sign of the character he has preached for all these years.

I guess we just differ on that. Even if he did every possible reconciliatory act possible, that was a pretty egregious fuck-up on his part and it wouldn't make it right in my eyes.

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I think I would respect that he admitted it but that doesnt forgive the actions.


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My take is that he didn't really do anything evil. He's just a really old guy who probably couldn't believe what he was hearing about his long-time colleague and friend. He didn't want to believe it. He told someone else and wanted them to deal with it. That's clearly no consolation to the kids and their parents. And it sure isn't leadership. He should know enough to apologize and resign without being told. I doubt he does. Just like he doesn't know he's too old to be coaching a major college football team if he's been "coaching" it at all. I'd guess he's sort of like Junior Soprano.

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I think I would respect that he admitted it but that doesnt forgive the actions.


Forgiveness is in the hands of others.

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[quote="FavreFan]
I believe in salvation. You fuck up. You admit you fuck up. You take your punishment while at the same time doing everything in your power to correct your wrongs. You do not get defined by one act.

I think that would be a sign of the character he has preached for all these years.[/quote]
I guess we just differ on that. Even if he did every possible reconciliatory act possible, that was a pretty egregious fuck-up on his part and it wouldn't make it right in my eyes.[/quote]

It was a big fuck up and that is why he must both acknoledge his part and step down.

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My take is that he didn't really do anything evil. He's just a really old guy who probably couldn't believe what he was hearing about his long-time colleague and friend. He didn't want to believe it. He told someone else and wanted them to deal with it. That's clearly no consolation to the kids and their parents. And it sure isn't leadership. He should know enough to apologize and resign without being told. I doubt he does. Just like he doesn't know he's too old to be coaching a major college football team if he's been "coaching" it at all. I'd guess he's sort of like Junior Soprano.

Evil might be a strong word, that should probably be reserved for guys like Sandusky. But it is much worse than bad leadership. It's pretty unforgiveable to look the other way on something like this.

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Evil might be a strong word, that should probably be reserved for guys like Sandusky. But it is much worse than bad leadership. It's pretty unforgiveable to look the other way on something like this.


I'm not sure "looking the other way" is exactly the right way to put it. I just think he's a weak old man who probably would have handled it completely differently when he was fifty years old.

I've listened to B&b make fun of him like he was a feeble old fool who didn't know he was alive long before this story ever broke. I don't think theirs was an uncommon opinion of the man. Just a couple weeks ago I read an article wherein the author wondered if Paterno should actually be credited with Penn State's wins on his record. I just think it's disingenuous to suddenly turn around and act as if he was a guy one should have expected to have an iron grip on his program and the wherewithal to act strongly and decisively regarding a matter like this.

I'm not excusing him. He should have resigned already. And if he refuses he should be forced to. I think that will happen.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Evil might be a strong word, that should probably be reserved for guys like Sandusky. But it is much worse than bad leadership. It's pretty unforgiveable to look the other way on something like this.


I'm not sure "looking the other way" is exactly the right way to put it. I just think he's a weak old man who probably would have handled it completely differently when he was fifty years old.

I've listened to B&b make fun of him like he was a feeble old fool who didn't know he was alive long before this story ever broke. I don't think theirs was an uncommon opinion of the man. Just a couple weeks ago I read an article wherein the author wondered if Paterno should actually be credited with Penn State's wins on his record. I just think it's disingenuous to suddenly turn around and act as if he was a guy one should have expected to have an iron grip on his program and the wherewithal to act strongly and decisively regarding a matter like this.

I'm not excusing him. He should have resigned already. And if he refuses he should be forced to. I think that will happen.

I think it will happen, but it will be at the end of the season. They have to totally clean house there.

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Does anyone get the feeling from his quotes that he tried to handle it internally by telling Sandusky to resign and making him go to counseling. I have no facts to base this on other than the part of his quote referencing professionals being fooled.

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[quote="good dolphin"]Does anyone get the feeling from his quotes that he tried to handle it internally by telling Sandusky to resign and making him go to counseling. I have no facts to base this on other than the part of his quote referencing professionals being fooled.[/quote
That's exactly what I thought.

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Well, you can do what he did today and cancel the press conference. Oy Vey.


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Looks like the writing is on the wall for JoePa. Rumors swirling that he will be stepping down shortly (within weeks)

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Fuck within weeks bullshit.

This needs to happen now.

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Fuck within weeks bullshit.

This needs to happen now.

I would not be surprised that they let him finish the regular season and step down after 11/26.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Evil might be a strong word, that should probably be reserved for guys like Sandusky. But it is much worse than bad leadership. It's pretty unforgiveable to look the other way on something like this.


I'm not sure "looking the other way" is exactly the right way to put it. I just think he's a weak old man who probably would have handled it completely differently when he was fifty years old.

I've listened to B&b make fun of him like he was a feeble old fool who didn't know he was alive long before this story ever broke. I don't think theirs was an uncommon opinion of the man. Just a couple weeks ago I read an article wherein the author wondered if Paterno should actually be credited with Penn State's wins on his record. I just think it's disingenuous to suddenly turn around and act as if he was a guy one should have expected to have an iron grip on his program and the wherewithal to act strongly and decisively regarding a matter like this.

I'm not excusing him. He should have resigned already. And if he refuses he should be forced to. I think that will happen.

There is a lot of difference in the 2011 version of Paterno and the 99 version.


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Paterno stepping down (or being fired) won't mean a damn thing.

good dolphin is right; forgiveness is in the hands of others, and Paterno's part in this whole mess pales in comparison to that of the more "unforgivable" offense of Sandusky.

I actually feel bad for the old coot. Here's a guy that was once revered as royalty in a small town only to ultimately have his entire career tarnished by the selfish and despicable acts of another man.

If Paterno needs to step down, then so be it. But I would have no problem forgiving him for not properly handling a situation that was undoubtedly shocking to him as it was to any human being.


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If Paterno needs to step down, then so be it. But I would have no problem forgiving him for not properly handling a situation that was undoubtedly shocking to him as it was to any human being.


The dude had knowledge of a guy having sex with a kid in their locker room. He decided to not do anything about that, but let the guy continue to have access to their facilities. Sure it is not the same level of wrong as Sandusky, but Paterno is responsible in this case.

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The dude had knowledge of a guy having sex with a kid in their lockerrom.

How do you know this?


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