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So how is it that "this guy" knows that Deng and Howard is a better duo than Deng and Noah? What does that say about you?


Because this guy is STILL failing to keep up with the debate.

You're failing to keep up w/ your own points Hov. You should probably stop talking down to people.


No I've been fairly consistent with basketball related information. You've just been throwing pebbles.

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Let's stop trying to compare Howard to guys like Shaq and Hakeem because he is nowhere near their class. They're all time greats. He's a couple notches above being just a guy. These comparisons are foolish and really don't help your argument. It just shows how poor it is.

No one is comparing those three. Wtf? I was speaking to your point of forcing great players together... Don't change the fucking argument cus you now see our logic...


Then why do you keep bringing them up. They're all time greats and better than Rose will ever be. You make Rose play with all time greats. You don't force Rose to play with a guy that will never be an all time great and will isn't better than him. You put guys around Rose that compliment him. Similar to what the Bulls did with MJ and what the Lakers did in LA post Shaq.

Seriously. You have something personal against the guy. I think you need to work that shit out... He will be in the hall of fame and will have at least one ring when he's done. Quit trying to be the anti kid...

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 Post subject: Re: Dwight Howard Rumor
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I dislike him for the same reason I dislike LeBron. Difference is LeBron is the most talented player to ever play in the league history.

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You don't like your athletes to smile? That whole MJ domination/competitiveness (but don't tell anyone I have mistresses in every away city and I get down w/ yay and weed while gambling with mafiosos) is played out. This is a new culture, a new era of basketball. Its ok to smile. These guys aren't hiding the amount of bodies Jordan was...

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I like athletes to care more about winning. All the other stuff should come last. I'll always prefer the MJ/Kobe/Rose types even if they are less talented (in the case of Rose v LeBron).

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I like athletes to care more about winning. All the other stuff should come last. I'll always prefer the MJ/Kobe/Rose types even if they are less talented (in the case of Rose v LeBron).

Cool. Do your thing.

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Three consecutive defensive players of the year awards (only player in NBA history to be a consecutive threepeater), shot 60% from the field last year, extremely smart big man who moves his feet very well, future Hall of Fame inductee.

I would be happier than the day the Bears traded for Jay.


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Somehow that makes me feel better.

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Somehow that makes me feel better.

I would also agree with CSF, hope that makes you feel better.


The way I dominated you in the paint at hoops
Howard=Free Ajent / Noah = Hova

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Somehow that makes me feel better.


Hey man, that's cool. We can disagree on this. Stand your ground on liking Noah over Howard, I will respect your opinion and not talk down to you in the process. As long as Chicago wins a title at some point, none of this will matter.


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Somehow that makes me feel better.

I would also agree with CSF, hope that makes you feel better.


The way I dominated you in the paint at hoops
Howard=Free Ajent / Noah = Hova


That's why you should have fouled out and been charged with sexual assault. Hova= Noah and Deng. Just like hoops that means winning.

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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
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Somehow that makes me feel better.


Hey man, that's cool. We can disagree on this. Stand your ground on liking Noah over Howard, I will respect your opinion and not talk down to you in the process. As long as Chicago wins a title at some point, none of this will matter.


I would feel better if this was a bit but I'm fairly certain it isn't. My stance is Noah AND Deng. The bullshit rumor had Noah AND Deng being traded for Howard. I personally would rather have both of them than Howard. The fact that I've said this about a million times in this thread and you continue to ignore it is just mind boggling.

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You could surround all of that in BF caps, flashing lights and on the back of a hatchback it would still be ridiculous.


Another good one by Ugie goes unrecognized.

Well.....IT STOPS HERE!!!!

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Somehow that makes me feel better.


Hey man, that's cool. We can disagree on this. Stand your ground on liking Noah over Howard, I will respect your opinion and not talk down to you in the process. As long as Chicago wins a title at some point, none of this will matter.


I would feel better if this was a bit but I'm fairly certain it isn't. My stance is Noah AND Deng. The bullshit rumor had Noah AND Deng being traded for Howard. I personally would rather have both of them than Howard. The fact that I've said this about a million times in this thread and you continue to ignore it is just mind boggling.


Dude. I understand that completely. I'm not missing the point you continue to state. I hear you loud and clear. But I still don't see how Noah and Deng are better than Dwight Howard on your team. If it is a matter of preference, than fine. But I disagree completely.


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 Post subject: Re: Dwight Howard Rumor
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:

Dude. I understand that completely. I'm not missing the point you continue to state. I hear you loud and clear. But I still don't see how Noah and Deng are better than Dwight Howard on your team. If it is a matter of preference, than fine. But I disagree completely.


The fact that you kept mentioning just Noah and Howard and asked would I rather have Noah and Deng or Howard and Deng didn't help me see that you had it. Yes Noah and Deng compliment Derrick Rose better than just Dwight Howard would.

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Dude. I understand that completely. I'm not missing the point you continue to state. I hear you loud and clear. But I still don't see how Noah and Deng are better than Dwight Howard on your team. If it is a matter of preference, than fine. But I disagree completely.


The fact that you kept mentioning just Noah and Howard and asked would I rather have Noah and Deng or Howard and Deng didn't help me see that you had it. Yes Noah and Deng compliment Derrick Rose better than just Dwight Howard would.

Because boozer, gibson, korver, and maybe butler wont be here?

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Dude. I understand that completely. I'm not missing the point you continue to state. I hear you loud and clear. But I still don't see how Noah and Deng are better than Dwight Howard on your team. If it is a matter of preference, than fine. But I disagree completely.


The fact that you kept mentioning just Noah and Howard and asked would I rather have Noah and Deng or Howard and Deng didn't help me see that you had it. Yes Noah and Deng compliment Derrick Rose better than just Dwight Howard would.

Because boozer, gibson, korver, and maybe butler wont be here?


I can only pray that Boozer won't be here and only hope that Butler joins the current core of Bulls players. I see a healthy Butler as the missing piece to a championship.

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Last year the Bulls needed a SG that could shoot and play defense. Unfortunately for the Bulls they only had SG that could do 1 or the other. Butler can do both and create his own shot. Staying healthy is the only issue.

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 Post subject: Re: Dwight Howard Rumor
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Hova,

Where you one of the keep Deng over trading for Kobe guys to a few years ago?

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 Post subject: Re: Dwight Howard Rumor
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Hova,

Where you one of the keep Deng over trading for Kobe guys to a few years ago?


No. I was the guy slamming Paxson for treating the so called core like they were his children. I wanted Kobe. I wanted Gasol. I was also the only guy here from day 1 that thought the trading of Chandler and signing of Wallace was terrible. Don't call me Hov no more call me a visionary.

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 Post subject: Re: Dwight Howard Rumor
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I dislike him for the same reason I dislike LeBron. Difference is LeBron is the most talented player to ever play in the league history.

This is stupid, and I don't know why it's repeated as often as it is. MJ was much smaller than LeBron and was better in every facet within 10 feet of the hoop. Overall, he was a more talented and better player than Lebron has ever been. Watch those late 80's clips.

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This is a PG league now in case you haven't noticed.

How many PG's have won a title as their team's best player since Isiah?

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LeBron is physically more gifted than MJ. I don't like to say it but it's true. Being physically more gifted DOESN'T make him a better player. He'll never be better. Obviously size is in LeBron's favor but he can also run faster and jump just as high. I watched MJ play (don't need videos young man :wink: ) and that's why I say LeBron will never be better.

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This is a PG league now in case you haven't noticed.

How many PG's have won a title as their team's best player since Isiah?


Billups. You can point to PG's not winning it all similar to how you can point to the great QB's not consistently winning it all. Fact is when you look at most of the younger good teams in the league they all have a really great PG. Without looking I would say by position the PG position would have more of the top players in the NBA in it than any other position.

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 Post subject: Re: Dwight Howard Rumor
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All this argument over something that is not going to happen is just silly. This is just a bad Sam Smith rumor that NBA.com and Yahoo are running with. This trade will never happen because:

A. The Bulls don't have enough to offer the Magic

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B. Dwight Howard doesn't want to come here.

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LeBron is physically more gifted than MJ. I don't like to say it but it's true. Being physically more gifted DOESN'T make him a better player. He'll never be better. Obviously size is in LeBron's favor but he can also run faster and jump just as high. I watched MJ play (don't need videos young man :wink: ) and that's why I say LeBron will never be better.

So you think Lebron is a better athlete? That might be true. He's never been a more talented basketball player though.

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This is a PG league now in case you haven't noticed.

How many PG's have won a title as their team's best player since Isiah?


Billups. You can point to PG's not winning it all similar to how you can point to the great QB's not consistently winning it all. Fact is when you look at most of the younger good teams in the league they all have a really great PG. Without looking I would say by position the PG position would have more of the top players in the NBA in it than any other position.

Not sure if Billups was. Rasheed and Ben have a case for that spot too. And what great QB's are missing a title? Rodgers, Brady, a healthy Manning, Brees, and Roethlisberger are the top 5 QB's in the league and all have won one.

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I'm saying Noah and Deng. I even put Deng in BF caps but apparently that still didn't work.


Ok, so you would rather have Noah and Deng instead of Deng and Howard? You could surround all of that in BF caps, flashing lights and on the back of a hatchback it would still be ridiculous.


You're the same guy that called Salmons and other marginal NBA players HoFers so excuse me for disregarding what you consider to be ridiculous.

:lol:


Hova, if I have this right, you basically have Dwight Howard as Kevin Willis? Is that about right?


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Hova, if I have this right, you basically have Dwight Howard as Kevin Willis? Is that about right?

Kevin Willis was at least a winner. Dwight Howard is more like a living Yinka Dare'

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LeBron is physically more gifted than MJ. I don't like to say it but it's true. Being physically more gifted DOESN'T make him a better player. He'll never be better. Obviously size is in LeBron's favor but he can also run faster and jump just as high. I watched MJ play (don't need videos young man :wink: ) and that's why I say LeBron will never be better.

So you think Lebron is a better athlete? That might be true. He's never been a more talented basketball player though.

Does body type count as talent?

Its part of the package I think


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