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I'd give up any two guys on the roster for Howard but I think Orlando can find a better offer.

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I'd give up any two guys on the roster for Howard but I think Orlando can find a better offer.

Including Rose?

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I'd give up any two guys on the roster for Howard but I think Orlando can find a better offer.

Including Rose?

No. I meant outside of Rose.

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Sorry, it was NAS.


I was never a fan of Hughes. If I liked anything it would have been his contract coming off the books. I'm sure someone would have quoted me saying something foolish like that.
I'm not saying you thought he was great, just still good. Finding a quote to that affect will prove difficult however as Nas has no past.

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Sorry, it was NAS.


I was never a fan of Hughes. If I liked anything it would have been his contract coming off the books. I'm sure someone would have quoted me saying something foolish like that.
I'm not saying you thought he was great, just still good. Finding a quote to that affect will prove difficult however as Nas has no past.


Of course KS did. I was excited to get rid of Wallace and I still have a thing for Gooden. Can't really explain it.

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Other teams have better offers..I would love him.A big plus he wouldn't be throwing DR on his ass

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what other teams have better offers?...the lakers have nobody..kobe is a hasbeen and the lakers are not winning anything anytime soon with that awful hire at coach is going to be disastrous... howard is not going to sign with any team that offers the most..he holds all the cards..he will only agree to a sign and trade with an extension to 3 or 4 different teams..the bulls is the best option.

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I must be getting punked or BF is deleting my posts. That's the only way this would make sense. The argument from my end isn't Noah or Howard. Even though I don't believe Howard fits the system that would be a fairly easy decision. It's the combination of Deng and Noah for Howard that I don't believe is worth it. Rose would probably want to kill Howard after the first practice with all his bullshit antics.

Are you serious? If the Bulls did that trade, they'd have the top player at the two hardest-to-fill positions. You could damn near win a title with stiffs and the 2, 3 & 4, and the Bulls would have Boozer at the 4. Going forward, the GM job would be child's play.

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Wouldn't the trade of Paul to the Lakers (if it happens given the owner rebellion) deplete the Lakers to the point that they'd be out of the Howard derby?

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Wouldn't the trade of Paul to the Lakers (if it happens given the owner rebellion) deplete the Lakers to the point that they'd be out of the Howard derby?



That's certainly what my thought was. Who's left to deal? Ouchy Bynum and World Peace? no thank you.


'Course it probably/possibly would free up enough cap space to sign him after the season.
If the Heat couldn't sign 3 max deals, how could the Lakers (especially under the new cba)? Do you see Kobe & Paul doing that?

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I could see Kobe restructure/play for the home town discount.....depending on what the new collective bargaining agreement says about that sort of thing.
No way Paul does it.

Kobe's gotta make as much, if not more off the court than he does on it.
I don't think that an overall income being deemed as enough money comes into play in this. Ego & greed yes (both the player and agent). Further, isn't Kobe ticked about the coaching hire? Finally, why would Orlando wait until Howard becomes a free agent? He will be traded before the Lakers can free up money.

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News early this morning was that Howard's agent is requesting a trade to the Nets.

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Dwight Howard met with NJ owner Mikhail Prokhorov & GM Billy King Thurs night in Miami, sources say. Orlando was unaware of meeting



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Meeting was violation of NBA tampering rules.
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With DHoward's camp making clear his preferred destinations don't include #Bulls, don't be surprised to see them reach out to Joel Pryzbilla


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RT @WindhorstESPN: Dwight Howard cites Magic GM Otis Smith's refusal to take personnel suggestions for trade demand:



You know what? I think Dwight is a fraud. So now he's apparently demanding a trade because he can't run the team.

And despite his little smiling personna and all that crap, he may be the league's leading cheap shot artist, as well as the league leader in technicals, and crying to the officials.

And you know damn well that the only reason he doesn't want to come to Chicago is because he realizes that he would be upstaged on a nightly basis by Derrick. And Dwight wants all the attention for himself.

Tonight, I have turned on you Dwight Howard.


Damn KS. I think you've done crossed the line.

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Exactly.

Jordan wanted to be GM all the time. Walter Davis?

Fuck you "Superman".

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I was gonna go Bizzaro, but I wasn't sure how many peoples would get it.

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I forgot aboot that Seinfeld episode.

This crowd definitely would've gotten it.

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This crowd definitely would've gotten it.


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There r only 4 teams Dwight Howard would sign longterm deal with - Orl, NJ, LAL, Dal - a source says.


Fuck off Dwight


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howard is an idiot. i dont want him on the bulls. i would understand it, i mean you gotta take what you can get when you can get it... but fuck him hes dumb as shit. we should just put noah and serena williams in a cage and draft their babies in 10 years

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Nets offered everything they could for Howard: Brook Lopez + FIVE 1st Rd picks. Theirs in 2012, 2014, 2016, 2018 + Rockets 2012 pick.

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Nets offered everything they could for Howard: Brook Lopez + FIVE 1st Rd picks. Theirs in 2012, 2014, 2016, 2018 + Rockets 2012 pick.

That's absolutely crazy.

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If that is true then the Magic are absolutely CRAZY for not trading Howard.

And if that is true then the Nets are the biggest idiots in the land. 5 first round picks?

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If that is true then the Magic are absolutely CRAZY for not trading Howard.

And if that is true then the Nets are the biggest idiots in the land. 5 first round picks?


They should all suck. Not a bad deal.

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'Cause so many of the stars are ego maniacs and Derrick would steal their thunder.

NBA players are so full of shit. I'm so glad the owners beat them to a pulp.

How do you figure they did? At the end of the day, not a lot has changed; a bit shorter contracts, lower BRI, but otherwise mostly business as usual.

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Brook Lopez is as good a rebounder as Eddy Curry. It's not a great deal even with the picks.

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So basically Howard will never come to Chicago because of his shoe deal with Adidas.

Jordan’s shadow hangs over new NBA season
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Somehow, it’s the 1990s all over again: As the NBA season starts, people are getting trampled and stabbed for overpriced Air Jordans. The planet’s most powerful center wants out of Orlando. Everything and nothing has changed. Michael Jordan is still the biggest shadow over the sport, still the relentless comparison for stars. For better and worse, he never goes away.

Jordan was a silent, but hard-driving owner in the NBA’s labor lockout, determined to beat up the sport’s players in the board room the way that he always did on the court. All these years later, the Chicago Bulls are a championship contender again, and the residue of the sneaker explosion born out of Jordan’s marketability probably makes the title path a little tougher for the Bulls.

For now, Dwight Howard has delivered the Magic a list of three teams that can trade for him this season with the assurance he’ll sign a contract extension with them: the Los Angeles Lakers, New Jersey Nets and Dallas Mavericks. The Bulls have the most attractive package of young players – and the possibility of draft picks – for the Magic, but the NBA that Jordan created for superstar players is a significant part of the reason that Howard will take a pass on Chicago.

Adidas has two franchise endorsers: Derrick Rose and Howard. Rose signed a $94 million extension with the Bulls, and sources say Adidas is working on a lifetime shoe deal for him now.

And as one high-ranking sneaker executive says, “Adidas simply cannot have its two signature players on the same team in the same market. … Derrick is the face of that market, owns that market, and Adidas can’t possibly have maximum bang for its buck with Dwight there.

“It serves Adidas no purpose. They need them as rivals in competing markets.”


Howard knows this, too. He has an Adidas renewal on deck in the next year, and Los Angeles and Brooklyn guarantee him maximum money. The shoes aren’t the sole season, but it’s a reality. In an NBA where the owners want the superstars worth $50 million and more to make far less than market value, it’s hard to imagine you’ll get them to take far less on endorsements.

And as had been the case with LeBron James’ free agency, Rose will never go out of his way to convince Howard this is a trade that he ought to push. “Derrick is too loyal to the guys he plays with to get involved with doing that,” a source close to Rose said. “It wasn’t his nature [to recruit] with LeBron, and it still isn’t now.”

For the record, Adidas’ vice president for global basketball, Lawrence Norman, says: “As a partner, we’re completely supportive of Dwight with whatever decision he makes. He’s an outstanding partner with broad appeal to fans across the world.”

Norman is telling the truth: Adidas will still pay Howard well wherever he winds up, but Orlando and Chicago won’t get him paid and marketed the way Los Angeles and Brooklyn will. Rose could become the highest-paid shoe endorser in the NBA with his next Adidas contract, sources said, and remember: Shoe companies don’t market teams. They market individuals. That’s true of the NBA, too.

That’s why Howard will end up with the Lakers or the Nets – Los Angeles or New York. Everything could change with Howard in Chicago, because everything changes with the league’s best center and best point guard on the floor together. Nevertheless, this NBA season starts with Howard in Orlando, and so much of the sport’s balance of power will be dictated by where he ends it.

Jordan changed everything in the endorsement and NBA star game, and sadly, the violence from people trying to get their hands on old-school Air Jordans ought to leave everyone speechless and numb over the part those shoes – and the prices for those shoes – have contributed to the exposing of a disintegrating culture.

Shaquille O’Neal found his way to the Lakers in free agency in 1996, and with Kobe Bryant, turned them into the NBA’s first post-Jordan championship dynasty. Wherever Howard goes now – with Kobe, with Deron Williams – promises to change the sport again. Howard could play a part getting Bryant that sixth title to catch Jordan, or go to Brooklyn and get a Knicks-Nets rivalry for the ages. Opening night in the NBA, and commissioner David Stern has chosen to travel to Oklahoma City for the Magic-Thunder game. Two small markets, two magnificent stars: Howard and Kevin Durant. They’re starting the season late, because the lockout was supposed to have two goals: Take back billions of dollars from the players, and take back much of the freedom to create super teams out of superstars.

No one pushed harder for that than the owner of the Charlotte Bobcats, an irrelevant franchise with a most relevant owner. No one will hear much out of Michael Jordan’s basketball team this season, yet his gravitas on this league remains unmistakable. All these years later, everything and nothing has changed. Still a star league, still the Jordan rules.

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