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I love this move. Anyone that played fantasy baseball with me know how much I loved Rizzo. He struggled last year when he got called up but the guy is going to be a stud.

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So rizzo is 7 years younger,but are they just going to hand him a job? Was his stats better than LaHairs last season?

LaHair had good MLB stats LAST SEASON.

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LaHair put up better numbers in the PCL last year than Rizzo.


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I love this move. Anyone that played fantasy baseball with me know how much I loved Rizzo. He struggled last year when he got called up but the guy is going to be a stud.

I hope so.


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Josh Byrnes just told us @mlbnetworkradio that Andrew Cashner will pitch in the back end of their bullpen for the Padres this year

So you get the 1B of the future for a bullpen arm.

Love it more and more.

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Jed says Rizzo will start the year at Triple A Iowa and LaHair will be starter at 1B


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Josh Byrnes just told us @mlbnetworkradio that Andrew Cashner will pitch in the back end of their bullpen for the Padres this year

So you get the 1B of the future for a bullpen arm.

Love it more and more.


Cashner was a great closer in college, and he will be a great closer in the majors, IMO. Never should have been made into a starter.


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Jed says Rizzo will start the year at Triple A Iowa and LaHair will be starter at 1B

I stand corrected.

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Jed says Rizzo will start the year at Triple A Iowa and LaHair will be starter at 1B


It doesn't happen very often, so I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong. :D

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This means Fielder won't be coming here.

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HOVA wrote:
This means Fielder won't be coming here.


Thank you, Captain Obvious.


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Big Chicagoan wrote:
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This means Fielder won't be coming here.


Thank you, Captain Obvious.


Anytime. It also means his price dropped.

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This means Fielder won't be coming here.


Thank you, Captain Obvious.


Anytime. It also means his price dropped.


Washington Nationals will appreciate that.


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Love the move.
I hope Cashner does well and he could be a great bullpen guy BUT trading a stud first baseman prospect for a bullpen guy with arm troubles is outstanding.
This was the Padres top prospect AND the Padres have one of the best systems in baseball that was built in part by 2 guys who now work for the Cubs.

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So rizzo is 7 years younger,but are they just going to hand him a job? Was his stats better than LaHairs last season?

LaHair had good MLB stats LAST SEASON.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: The LaHair love is the most inexplicable thing I have seen from the Cubs fans around here in a long time. You would think his name was LaCock. Anywhat I LOVE this move as Cashner seems to be too ouchy and I don't want to pay Prince for 10 years to get fat off vegan deep dish.

Unrelated but Levi Johnson is CLH not Douchebag I believes.

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Unrelated but Levi Johnson is CLH not Douchebag I believes.


Ooops.

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Guy hit 39 taters at AAA,did OK at the ML level in limited play. So what's wrong with giving him a chance?

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Guy hit 39 taters at AAA,did OK at the ML level in limited play. So what's wrong with giving him a chance?


They are giving him a chance Jimmy. Keep up around here. Reports are LaHair starts the year at 1B with Rizzo in AAA.

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Guy hit 39 taters at AAA,did OK at the ML level in limited play. So what's wrong with giving him a chance?


He is the Cubs 1B next year

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Guy hit 39 taters at AAA,did OK at the ML level in limited play. So what's wrong with giving him a chance?


They are giving him a chance Jimmy. Keep up around here. Reports are LaHair starts the year at 1B with Rizzo in AAA.


I did read that. So if he flops,they have Rizzo. I just don't get why the guy is mocked on here. If (or when) he fails,than start giggling. It has not happened yet.

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Anthony Rizzo was “ecstatic” at the news that he’d been traded again, and was going to the Cubs. He’s back with the group that originally drafted him when Theo Epstein, Jed Hoyer and Jason McLeod were in Boston.

“I got called up to the big leagues last year and struggled a little bit,” Rizzo said Friday. “I wouldn’t say some people wrote me off, but some people I guess lost some faith in me. For them to still have that faith, with everything they helped me through, it just shows me how loyal they are and how honored I am to play for them.

“This is such a big business,” Rizzo said. “I’ve seen it now for the last five years how much of a business it is. Everyone I’ve spoken to talks about how professional Theo is, how straightforward he is with everyone. It means a lot to me to be with them again.”

When the Padres dealt for Yonder Alonso, did Rizzo think he might get traded again?

“I couldn’t even tell you,” Rizzo said. “I figured something would happen, but I wasn’t completely sure. I just went on with my offseason and trained as hard as I’m training to prepare for next year, wherever it was. Now I’m a Cub and hopefully will remain a Cub for many years to come.”

In 2008, Rizzo was limited to 21 Minor League games after being diagnosed with Limited Stage Classical Hodgkins Lymphoma in late April. He returned in ’09 to lead all Red Sox Minor Leaguers with a .368 on-base percentage and ranked third in the system with a .297 batting average between Class A Greenville and Class A Salem.

“From the very bottom of the organization to the very top, to the ownership, when I was sick, they didn’t only help me out, they helped my family out and made sure everything was going to be OK,” Rizzo said of Epstin & Co. “To be back with the main people who were around me is just an honor. It’s a real exciting opportunity and I hope to make the best of it.”

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Guy hit 39 taters at AAA,did OK at the ML level in limited play. So what's wrong with giving him a chance?


They are giving him a chance Jimmy. Keep up around here. Reports are LaHair starts the year at 1B with Rizzo in AAA.


I did read that. So if he flops,they have Rizzo. I just don't get why the guy is mocked on here. If (or when) he fails,than start giggling. It has not happened yet.

I won't speak for everyone but I just mock the idea that a 29 year old minor leaguer is the future of 1B. There is a 99% chance that if LaHair is your starting 1B that your MLB team really sucks. This goes back to Hoffpauir and other 4A ballplayers that float around the Cubs minor leagues for a long time then come up when the team blows and play decent and then get lionized as some sort of future. I hope he proves me wrong but I just don't think he is going to be a great major league ballplayer james.

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Reads like a good kid. I'll be rooting for him!

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Believe me,Phil,I DO know what you mean. I was just going through a box of old baseball cards. Some of those Cub Future Prospects made me laugh and cry.

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Believe me,Phil,I DO know what you mean. I was just going through a box of old baseball cards. Some of those Cub Future Prospects made me laugh and cry.

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A career AAA player at 29 is not the future. He's serviceable, but I wouldn't be expecting much.

Bryan LaHair - the new Micah Hoffpauir.


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Believe me,Phil,I DO know what you mean. I was just going through a box of old baseball cards. Some of those Cub Future Prospects made me laugh and cry.

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A career AAA player at 29 is not the future. He's serviceable, but I wouldn't be expecting much.

Bryan LaHair - the new Micah Hoffpauir.


Casey McGehee, maybe?


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Wow. I knew Theo and Jed really love this kid but I didn't actually think they would have with or part with what it would take to get him. I've heard that they think his talent ceiling is sky high still. He struggled mightily in his 150 or so mlb at bats this season but he also tore it up in AAA. High school picks usually take 5-6 years to fully develop so let us hope that is the case and that the Cubs finally have a legit foundation set at first base and all they had to give up was an often injured Cashner.

If Rizzo does indeed figure it out at the big league level you now have a super cheap and under team control for many years franchise first baseman and alot of money to spend elsewhere.

If this works out then it is fucking awesome news for the future of the Cubs organization.

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From Buster Onley's column today:

• Anthony Rizzo's ugly numbers from his first turn through the majors -- 18 hits in 153 plate appearances, with one homer -- tell only part of the story. Rival talent evaluators were taken aback by how overwhelmed Rizzo looked against even mediocre fastballs last summer; to many, it looked like Rizzo simply lacked the kind of bat speed needed to be a productive major-leaguer. "What I saw scared the (bleep) out of me, to be honest," said one AL official, describing how he saw Rizzo get tied up inside by right-handers throwing 88-90 mph fastballs.



Cubs executives Theo Epstein, Jed Hoyer and Jason McLeod have a broader perspective on Rizzo. They were all involved when the Red Sox drafted Rizzo in 2007, and got to know him and what they believe is his superlative mental makeup. They were all involved in the trade of Rizzo to the Padres for Adrian Gonzalez 13 months ago. Rizzo, they thought, fell into some bad habits after his call-up to the big leagues last summer, and his swing got away from him; it got longer, with an uphill plane that greatly affected his ability to make contact.



Hoyer and McLeod moved on from the Padres to the Cubs earlier this offseason, and clearly, the executives who replaced them had concerns about Rizzo, which is part of the reason why they traded for Yonder Alonso and were willing to move Rizzo. But the Cubs believe that Rizzo is much more the player who dominated Class AAA last year, and that he will make the needed adjustments to shorten his swing.


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