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Baseball America has put out the Top 10 Prospects the entire FREE article is here http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/pr ... 12801.html

We now can see why Kenny made some of the recent deals as the list has many of his acquisitions on it. The full scouting reports are available to subscribers or you can pick up a single copy at places like Barnes and Noble. If you buy it make sure you get issue number 1203 with Twins prospec tMiguel Sano on the cover.

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PROSPECTS
1. Addison Reed, rhp
2. Nestor Molina, rhp
3. Simon Castro, rhp
4. Trayce Thompson, of
5. Jake Petricka, rhp
6. Keenyn Walker, of
7. Jhan Marinez, rhp
8. Tyler Saladino, ss
9. Juan Silverio, 3b
10. Ozzie Martinez, ss
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Best Hitter for Average Tyler Kuhn
Best Power Hitter Trayce Thompson
Best Strike Zone Discipline Christian Marrero
Fastest Baserunner Keenyn Walker
Best Athlete Jared Mitchell
Best Fastball Jeff Soptic
Best Curveball Johnnie Lowe
Best Slider Addison Reed
Best Changup Charlie Leesman
Best Control Nestor Molina
Best Defensive Catcher Miguel Gonzalez
Best Defensive Infielder Eduardo Escobar
Best Infield Arm Juan Silverio
Best Defensive OF Jordan Danks
Best Outfield Arm Jose Martinez

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THE INQUISITOR wrote:
Best Hitter for Average Tyler Kuhn


bridgeport sox fans are anxiously awaiting his arrival

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:29 pm 
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Amazing how poorly the farm system had s ended up here. Probably 2 guys worth a damn and a bunch of roster filler.


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I don't see Kenneth Williams' name anywhere on that list.

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Stay outta White Sox business!

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I love BA but I have no idea why they continue to let Phil Rogers write articles for them especially articles about prospects. It's a serious hit to their credibility.


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Keyser Soze wrote:
I love BA but I have no idea why they continue to let Phil Rogers write articles for them especially articles about prospects. It's a serious hit to their credibility.


Of course it is, we all know they are on the list of people that hate the Sox.

Is Ozzie on that list now? You know he wants them to suck this year more than anyone!

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This is from Top Prospect as Retweeted by Dan Evans former Dodger GM and EX White Sox Assistant General Manager/Director of Baseball Operations

2012 MLB Farm System Rankings

#1 San Diego Padres
#2 Toronto Blue Jays
#3 Arizona Diamondbacks
#4 New York Yankees
#5 Tampa Bay Rays
#6 Boston Red Sox
#7 Washington Nationals
#8 Seattle Mariners
#9 Colorado Rockies
#10 Atlanta Braves
#11 Texas Rangers
#12 St. Louis Cardinals
#13 Kansas City Royals
#14 Pittsburgh Pirates
#15 Houston Astros
#16 Minnesota Twins
#17 Oakland Athletics
#18 New York Mets
#19 Chicago Cubs
#20 Philadelphia Phillies
#21 Detroit Tigers
#22 Baltimore Orioles
#23 Los Angeles Angels
#24 Cincinnati Reds
#25 Cleveland Indians
#26 Milwaukee Brewers
#27 Los Angeles Dodgers
#28 San Francisco Giants
#29 Chicago White Sox
#30 Miami Marlins

To qualify, a prospect must have fewer than 130 at-bats or 50 innings in MLB

#1 Keenyn Walker OF
Born: 8/12/1990
Highest Level Reached: Low-A Kannapolis Intimidators
2011 Combined Stats: .257, 8(2B), 3(3B), 24RBI, 21SB

#2 Addison Reed RHP
Born: 12/27/1988
Highest Level Reached: MLB Chicago White Sox
2011 Combined Stats: MINORS: 2-1, 1.26ERA, 5 Saves, 78.1IP, 14BB, 111K, .157BAA
MAJORS: 0-0, 3.68ERA, 7.1IP, 1BB, 12K, .313BAA

#3 Simon Castro RHP
Born: 4/9/1988
Highest Level Reached: Triple-A Tucson Padres (Traded to White Sox December 2011)
2011 Combined Stats: 7-8, 5.63ERA, 115IP, 34BB, 94K, .286BAA

#4 Eduardo Escobar SS
Born: 1/5/1989
Highest Level Reached: MLB Chicago White Sox
2011 Combined Stats: MINORS: .266, 23(2B), 4(3B), 4HR, 49RBI, 13SB
MAJORS: .286 (2 hits in 7 big league at-bats)

#5 Jhan Marinez RHP
Born: 8/12/1988
Highest Level Reached: Double-A Jacksonville Suns (Marlins)
2011 Combined Stats: 3-8, 3.57ERA, 3 Saves, 42BB, 47K, .223BAA

#6 Jared Mitchell OF
Born: 10/13/1988
Highest Level Reached: High-A Winston Salem Dash
2011 Combined Stats: .222, 31(2B), 8(3B), 9HR, 58RBI, 14SB

#7 Nestor Molina RHP
Born: 1/9/1989
Highest Level Reached: Double-A New Hampshire Fisher Cats (Blue Jays)
2011 Combined Stats: 12-3, 2.21ERA, 130.1IP, 16BB, 148K, .234BAA

#8 Ozzie Martinez SS
Born: 5/7/1988
Highest Level Reached: MLB Florida Marlins
2011 Combined Stats: MINORS: .245, 15(2B), 1(3B), 3HR, 26RBI, 11SB
MAJORS: .130, 1RBI (3 hits in 23 at-bats)

#9 Kyle McMillen RHP
Born: 3/14/1990
Highest Level Reached: Rookie League Great Falls Voyagers
2011 Combined Stats: 0-1, 45.00ERA, 1IP, 3BB, 2K, .429BAA (4th Round Pick 2011 MLB Draft)

#10 Brandon Short OF
Born: 9/9/1988
Highest Level Reached: Double-A Birmingham Barons
2011 Combined Stats: .262, 29(2B), 5(3B), 13HR, 60RBI, 21SB

#11 Kevan Smith C
Born: 6/28/1988
Highest Level Reached: Rookie League Great Falls Voyagers
2011 Combined Stats: .355, 22(2B), 3(3B), 9HR, 48RBI

#12 Pedro Hernandez LHP
Born: 4/12/1989
Highest Level Reached: Triple-A Tucson Padres (Traded To White Sox December 2011)
2011 Combined Stats: 10-3, 3.49ERA, 116IP, 22BB, 94K, .262BAA

#13 Tyler Saladino SS
Born: 7/20/1989
Highest Level Reached: High-A Winston Salem Dash
2011 Combined Stats: .270, 26(2B), 9(3B), 16HR, 55RBI, 7SB

#14 Erik Johnson RHP
Born: 12/30/1989
Highest Level Reached: Rookie League Great Falls Voyagers
2011 Combined Stats: 0-0, 4.50ERA, 2IP, 1BB, 2K, .444BAA (2nd Round Pick 2011 MLB Draft)

#15 Trayce Thompson OF
Born: 3/15/1991
Highest Level Reached: Low-A Kannapolis Intimidators
2011 Combined Stats: .241, 36(2B), 2(3B), 24HR, 87RBI

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Dan Evans might have an ax to grind?

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Keyser Soze wrote:
I love BA but I have no idea why they continue to let Phil Rogers write articles for them especially articles about prospects. It's a serious hit to their credibility.


Don't worry Baseball Prospectus will have their (Kevin Goldstein) rankings out later this week or early next week.
And form the what I hear it is just as ugly..maybe even worse as he thinks it is the WORST system in all of baseball.

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Oh no not the great Kevin Goldstein!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So have you been trolling this place for the last 2 days just waiting for me to respond?? :lol:


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Keyser Soze wrote:
Oh no not the great Kevin Goldstein!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So have you been trolling this place for the last 2 days just waiting for me to respond?? :lol:


What's wrong with Goldstein now? lol

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Can we agree that prospect rankings are crapshoots?

That being said, I'm confident the Sox minor league system is in shambles.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Can we agree that prospect rankings are crapshoots?

That being said, I'm confident the Sox minor league system is in shambles.


Yes and yes.

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Thanks fella.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Thanks fella.


No problem. I've looked at many prospect rankings, and the Dan Evans list is very different. I could also present many a "Future Star" card from back in the day. That said, I haven't heard anyone say a good thing about the Sox farm system.

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Me neither. :(

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Can we agree that prospect rankings are crapshoots?

That being said, I'm confident the Sox minor league system is in shambles.

I blame Phil Rogers.

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Aggravated Sox Fan Bob wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Can we agree that prospect rankings are crapshoots?

That being said, I'm confident the Sox minor league system is in shambles.

I blame Phil Rogers.


I blame Phil Rogers for consistently being the worst-dressed guest on Chicago Tribune Live. That's a hell of a trick too.

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This from Baseball Prospectus ...the rest of the report is available to subscribers only////

System in 20 Words or Less: Two words: Not good.

Four-Star Prospects
1. Addison Reed, RHP
Three-Star Prospects
2. Nestor Molina, RHP
3. Trayce Thompson, OF
4. Jake Petricka, RHP
5. Simon Castro, RHP
6. Keenyn Walker, OF
Two-Star Prospects
7. Eduardo Escobar, SS
8. Jhan Marinez, RHP
9. Myles Jaye, RHP
10. Tyler Saladino, SS
11. Andre Rienzo, RHP

Nine More
12. Juan Silverio, 3B: He’s a third baseman who has the ability to hit, and could move forward in 2012.
13. Jared Mitchell, OF: This former first-rounder still has tools, but the results have been disastrous.
14. Brandon Short, OF: His plus hit tool is matched with a poor approach and a lack of corner-outfield power.
15. Pedro Hernandez, LHP: He was acquired from the Padres in the Carlos Quentin deal. Martinez could pitch in the big leagues this year, but he has a seventh-inning ceiling.
16. Gregory Infante, RHP: Infante is another potential 2012 bullpen piece. He has a power arm, but does not have much to go with in.
17. Erik Johnson, RHP: This 2012 second-round pick has a plus fastball and slider, but he needs to refine his changeup and command.
18. Michael Blanke, C: He has raw power and a good arm, but there are big questions about his bat.
19. Dylan Axelrod, RHP: His ceiling is a fifth starter, but he might already be there.
20. Ozzie Martinez, SS: Martinez arrived from Florida in the Ozzie Guillen deal. He’s a future utility player.

1. Addison Reed, RHP
DOB: 12/27/88
Height/Weight: 6-4/215
Bats/Throws: L/R
Drafted/Signed: Third round, 2010, San Diego State
2011 Stats: 1.12 ERA (8.0-4-1-11) at Low-A (4 G); 1.59 ERA (28.1-21-4-39) at High-A (15 G); 0.87 ERA (20.2-10-6-33) at Double-A (13 G); 1.27 ERA (21.1-8-3-28) at Triple-A (11 G); 3.68 ERA (7.1-10-1-12) at MLB (6 G)
Tools Profile: He has closer-worthy stuff.

Year in Review: This 2010 second-round pick began the year in Low-A and finished it in the big leagues.
The Good: Reed has everything it takes to be a major-league closer. His fastball averages 95 mph and touches 97-98, and it plays up due to his ability to use both sides of the plate and get ahead of hitters. His wipeout slider is among the best in the minor leagues; it’s a two-plane breaker that consistently misses bats. He works quickly, aggressively, and without fear.
The Bad: Reed is a pure reliever who has a below-average changeup and just works better in short stints. His release point can get a little too low, which gives left-handers a long look at the ball.
Ephemera: Across four minor-league levels, right-handed batters facing Reed went 24-for-155 (.155) with 74 strikeouts. Josh Harrison was the only right-handed better to hit a home run against Reed. That occurred in Reed's Triple-A debut.
Perfect World Projection: He’s a big-league closer.
Fantasy Impact: While he won't earn saves immediately, he should get them down the road.
Path to the Big Leagues: Reed will be given every opportunity to earn a late-inning spot in the big-league bullpen this spring. The path for him to close is wide open.
ETA: 2012

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Can we agree that prospect rankings are crapshoots?

That being said, I'm confident the Sox minor league system is in shambles.


Rankings are a crapshoot, because the players are a crapshoot, except for the guys Kenny gets, those guys are major leaguers in training.

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How the mighty have fallen......The great Jordan Danks isn't even on top 20 lists anymore.


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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
How the mighty have fallen......The great Jordan Danks isn't even on top 20 lists anymore.


Well according to "Keyser the Dwarf" he never was a top prospect..I am sure THE DWARF will chime in soon and tell you how Jordan never ever was a top prospect...... and that no oneever said or thought he was...then I will have to drag under the troll bridge and show him the articles again from Law, Callis and Goldstein that said he was ...of course The DWARF will never admit HE could possibly be wrong.... I wish he would add to his scoreboard INQUISITOR 2 DWARF SCOUT KEYSER 0 but it will never happen ..he can only pat himself on the back for beating BIGFAN......

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This thread is hilarious.


No way Keyser can deny Jim Callis after all the dick sucking he's done in the past.


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Keyser will simply ignore this thread and the fact that the Sox system is so bad right now. He will show up in all of the Cub threads to point out any negative situations tho.

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Keyser will simply ignore this thread and the fact that the Sox system is so bad right now. He will show up in all of the Cub threads to point out any negative situations tho.

Life of a Sox fan who hates the Cubs

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The system is woeful now, but there was talent in there. Kenny just traded it away- Hudson & Chris Young are the most glaring examples.

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The system is woeful now, but there was talent in there. Kenny just traded it away- Hudson & Chris Young are the most glaring examples.

Win now, worry about the system later has come home to roost.


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I'm not even that upset about Hudson. The Chris Young one really hurts though.

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I'm not even that upset about Hudson. The Chris Young one really hurts though.

Rongey assured me that Rios is way better than Young and that even bringing up the comparison was ridiculous.

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