I seemingly do this every time the Patriots are in the Super Bowl, but I love looking up the names of the 6 QB's drafted in 2000 ahead of Tom Brady.

1st: Chad Pennington
3rd: Giovanni Carmazzi
3rd: Chris Redman
5th: Tee Martin
6th: Marc Bulger
6th: Spergon Wynn



Patriots 34 Giants 27

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Team Cutler.

Of those names listed, only 1 of those QBs is on an NFL roster. That's Chris Redman, who currently holds a clipboard for Matt Ryan with the Atlanta Falcons.

Tom Brady maybe the G.O.A.T but Giovanni has 6 goats.

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You never miss your wealth, till your well went dry
Seem like only yesterday, you were here smiling
Now you gone away, but I know you in a better place
No traces of you, what can I do?
Alone and confused

one of which is named Snooki.

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@audioidkid

I'm mad at myself for both getting that and genuinely laughing

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Team Cutler.

Me too.

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You never miss your wealth, till your well went dry
Seem like only yesterday, you were here smiling
Now you gone away, but I know you in a better place
No traces of you, what can I do?
Alone and confused

Seems like everyone I read and listen to thinks the Giants are going to take this deal. I heard today that 60% of the plays in Vegas are on the Giants. Vegas almost always makes money on the Superbowl.

I just do not see any way that the Patriots lose this game. Hoodie will play up to them the disrespected card as they all continue to listen to the talking heads talk about how good the Giants are playing and how the defensive line is going to mess Brady & Co up. Last time they played NE had 4 turnovers and still led the game with 3 mins to go. They will not have 4 turnovers this time around. Brady is going to dominate the game and lead them to a 38 to 21 victory.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Eli will throw for more yards than Brady & the Giants win 27 - 24.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

Even with a healthy Gronkowski this sounds funny.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

The Patriots will play like the underdogs. The Giants have had a tougher road to this point, so they are battle-tested.

The key to this game is Rob Gronkowski.

Patriots 27 - Giants 24

I'm sure there is a guard or DT on one of the teams you could do this for as well. I'm sick of hearing about this for the last decade. Be good in college and you will get drafted higher. Brady turned out to be good, big freaking deal.

It isnt like people are holding it against him now. The whole motivation factor of it is so meatball, I think people realized you were good after the first couple of SBs or maybe the perfect regular season. Let it the fuck go!

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to me the key for both teams is the ability to run. if either of these teams gets a running game going early it is going to leave the other teams defense VERY vulnerable. if the giants start running at all early in that game, eli could destroy that NE secondary with play action. he is REALLY good at that, it is one of his biggest strengths. i think new england will be extremely vulnerable with even marginal rushing success with bradshaw or jacobs. my guess is that the giants commit totally to the run in the first couple possessions with a lot of 2-TE sets before they start probing into that secondary. on the other side it will be interesting to see if that giants front 7 can contain the patriots running game without having to commit grant, phillips or rolle. those three guys will be charged with containing gronk and hernandez, and i wouldnt be surprised to see corner aaron ross actually line up on hernandez with webster on welker. i dont think NE has a prolific enough running game to force the giants to load up on the run, and if they dont and the giants front four can pressure brady and the giants drop into coverage i think it could be the packers game all over again. when you can drop that many guys in coverage and not have to worry about the running game, i dont care how good you can throw it is going to be hard. and i look at this as though gronk is going to be somewhat healthy to play.

i think the giants have a better chance at success running than the patriots, so i guess i think the giants win this game maybe 31-17 or something like that. and i dont like saying that because i much prefer being the underdog. this game would be tough to swallow if they lose it, because it feels to me like they should win. that is usually a bad warning sign to prepare myself for disappointment. this nice run in the playoffs is all fun bonus time for me anyway, since i confess i thought the giants were flatlined after Washington.

That NE defense was pretty damn stout against great running teams in the Ravens and Broncos.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Is Ravens offense any good?

Everybody is picking the Giants means they will lose.

I'm just focused on the game. The Giants are a tough team. Lots of respect for that group. Coach Coughlin does a great job with that group of players. Eli Manning is a strong quarterback; plays the position well.

The Patriots did a few things during pratice this week. Simulated a few game situations. Gronkowski was limited. He was able to do some things with the team, and had to rest during other drills.

Not really worried about how this places Coach Belichick and Tom Brady in the history books. Just focusing on the game on Sunday. Both guys have had great careers.

true, but i dont think those teams have high-powered offensive weapons on the outside that demand respect, allowing NE to sell out to stop the run. im just saying that if the giants can run well enough to get NE to commit to stopping them from doing it, it opens up a lot of opportunities in the passing game. that is why, even though they were not very successful at running all year, the giants continued to do it, because play-action is where they flourish. if the giants cant run and the pats get on a roll offensively, the giants are going to be in trouble. my hunch is that the giants can win this game, but like spaulding said since a lot of people like the giants to win i am prepared for disappointment.

They have a very good line and one of the best RBs in the NFL. Their passing game is questionable though.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I havent heard ANYONE pick the Patirots.



From a football standpoint everything says the Giants

Better D
Better Running game
Playing Hot
Brady was awful in the last game
Brady's favorite and by far best target is hurt and nowhere near 100%
The two teams the Pats supposedly improved D had played against in the playoffs have QB's that cant throw a team to victory like Eli can (Tebow, Flacco)



With that said, I cant see Brady and Belicheck losing to Eli and Coughlin again.


Side Note: If Giants win, Coughlin has gone from hanging on to his career by a thread 5 years ago, to legend status in the biggest market in the league

Patriots by 10.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Coughlin has nine lives. It seems every third year he is on the hot seat and has a great season.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Pats by 10 1/2

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Not sure if it was an interview with a player or what but someone said he changes or adapts. A few years ago he was being a hard ass and there were rumblings, then he stopped being a hard ass.

If the Giants win, does he go down as a better NYG head coach than Parcells?

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I remember him in those hard ass days. It was accompanied by moral rigidity bordering on the obnoxious. I think his daughter got knocked up in school. That means nothing to me but when you hold yourself up as an example and your primary student doesn't follow you change...or end up looking like a fool like Mc Cartney (the promise keeper coach, not the Beelte)

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

The Redskins beat the Giants twice this year. Tells me all I need to know. Patriots 38, Giants 24.

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I don't think Rex plays for the Pats, Greg.

i may not be watching much of this; the people i'm hanging with today aren't really into football and i'm actually kind of relieved. i really couldn't care less who wins, and i think the hype and commercials and whatnot are getting more aggravating. i've already seen the best commercial anyway, so it's not a big deal to me if i miss the whole game. i guess i'd rather see the giants win, but in the immortal words of doug...meh...

NBC pregame had a dude from the weather channel on. WTF do you need him for, the game is indoors, lol.

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Fuck Edwards and Zobrist

Game should start at 4:00 .Giants 42-Pats 35. Eli mounts a 4th quarter comeback for the gazillionth time:)

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.