HOVA wrote:
Remember the abortion doctor that was assassinated? In many ways his rhetoric may be responsible. While I'm as pro life as any far right wing guy I wouldn't broadcast information that I knew could get someone hurt for following the law of the land. I believe others that are as pro life as I am wouldn't do what he did. He's also a racist too. He only invites the dumbest of guests that help him advance his propaganda and racial stereotypes. The majority of Americans aren't racist either. Age and cultural divide aren't an excuse. He also toyed with the birther and Muslim stuff. Saying he took the president at his word about being a Christian and saying he believed the president was a citizen but he should release his birth certificate to shut the doubters up. These are views I wouldn't consider to be mainstream. As I said Bill O'Reilly isn't as blunt as the other opinion hosts on Fox but he shares many of their views.
You're covering a lot of ground with this post.
First, I'm not sure what you believe O'Reilly said that would in anyway make him responsible for that abortion "doctor" being killed. Regardless, I'm not sure how you can really have a pro-life stance- which I assume means you consider a fetus (particularly a long term one like the ones the guy that was killed specialized in aborting) to be a human baby- and not easily be able to justify the killing of that "doctor". If you saw a guy murdering a three day old baby, would you feel justified in killing him? I'm pretty sure the law that allows eight and nine month abortions is out of the American mainstream rather than people who oppose it.
As far as him being a racist is concerned, yeah, he is. He's a white American. We're all racists to one degree or another. You want to have an honest conversation about race in America, we can have one. If you're going to look at black poverty and crime and blame it on circumstances (which is obviously the case, because I hope we agree that the color of one's skin doesn't have anything to do with one's abilities or character), you also have to consider the circumstances that are behind white racism. While all American whites are most certainly racists, the vast majority aren't actively so and most don't even believe they are. It's a tough conversation. Just this morning I heard Matt Spiegel wrestling his own racism in a discussion on Oil Can Boyd. I know he didn't think his racism was coming out, but it was. Holmes knew it. He was just too polite to say anything. I don't blame him. You're a black man. Think of how difficult your life would be if you confronted every tiny hint of racism you ran up against. I feel pretty confident in saying I don't believe you could do it without having some kind of mental breakdown. So you shrug it off or talk around it like Lawrence did. And the white guy showing the racist viewpoint goes on about his business, oblivious. I'm sure Spiegel would be ready to fight if someone called him a racist. Unless we can be honest about this shit, it's probably going to be difficult to change it.
But I'm getting pretty far away from talking about O'Reilly here. He never demanded Obama's birth certificate. In fact, he interviewed him and pretty much fawned over him the entire time he was lobbing softballs. O'Reilly likes Obama. He may take on his policies occasionally, but I've heard him support them nearly as often.
As far as his dislike of hip hop is concerned, that's definitely generational. He often sounds just like Mary Mitchell in denouncing vulgar and anti-woman rap lyrics.
Finally, I'm not a fan of Bill O'Reilly. I find it ridiculous that after so many years interviewing people in remote locations he can't figure out how the delay works. His mainstream political views are not mine. He's a guy right in the middle slightly to the right. Richard Roeper is a guy right in the middle slightly to the left. Roeper will find shit to argue with him about because he believes he should. But their politics are remarkably similar. And in fact, from what I've read from you in this forum, in some ways, you're more of a right-winger than O'Reilly.
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