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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:30 am 
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Illinois certainly isn't a football school.

Illinois is a women's volleyball school.

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Illinois certainly isn't a football school.

Illinois is a women's volleyball school.


And Men's Tennis.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:41 am 
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Actually have had some quality golfers come through there over the years including my man
Steve Stricker.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:43 am 
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I would be ok with Collins getting the Illini job. He has a lot of time under the wing of
Coach K which can't hurt anyone trying to get a coaching job.

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I would be ok with Collins getting the Illini job. He has a lot of time under the wing of
Coach K which can't hurt anyone trying to get a coaching job.



While some people disagree with me, I don't think Illinois (or any big ten school) is a school for first time head coaches which Collins would be.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:27 am 
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
T-Bone wrote:
I would be ok with Collins getting the Illini job. He has a lot of time under the wing of
Coach K which can't hurt anyone trying to get a coaching job.



While some people disagree with me, I don't think Illinois (or any big ten school) is a school for first time head coaches which Collins would be.


Wouldn't be easy but hasn't he been an assistant for like 10-12 years under Coach K? I think he would be
alright in the long run.

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I would be ok with Collins getting the Illini job. He has a lot of time under the wing of
Coach K which can't hurt anyone trying to get a coaching job.



While some people disagree with me, I don't think Illinois (or any big ten school) is a school for first time head coaches which Collins would be.


Wouldn't be easy but hasn't he been an assistant for like 10-12 years under Coach K? I think he would be
alright in the long run.



I think the risk is too great with this whiny of a fanbase. Plus, this hire and the Beckman hire are going to be what the new AD hangs his hat on when it comes to re-up his contract. I wouldn't want to risk my future employment on an unknown quantity.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:09 am 
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Will be interesting any way you slice it. I don't think they HAVE to make a diversity hire.
that really cuts down the pool of coaching talent overall. Not saying they can't find someone
good for the job that way but they really need to do their due dilligence and make a hire that
will be around for 5-6 years and put a solid program together.

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Wow. http://illinoishomepage.net/fulltext?nxd_id=340232

Lots of calling out players and even more hints at calling out players.

It's over.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:38 pm 
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Wow. http://illinoishomepage.net/fulltext?nxd_id=340232

Lots of calling out players and even more hints at calling out players.

It's over.



Yeah, it's getting really ugly. Which is sad, because Weber is a good guy and did take Illinois to its only finals appearance. Just wish the season would end already so Thomas can do the deed. Painful to watch.


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It was brought up on the Danny Mac show that if Weber was shown the door today, would there be much of an uproar.

If they lose to Nebraska on Saturday, that could be the time to do it.

I don't know how many games they will win from, but with how it's going and you lose to Nebraska, probably wouldn't win another game.


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Former Illinois star Deron Williams said he would be "very disappointed" if coach Bruce Weber were fired, and he believes blame for the team's problems lies with the players.

"He's in a tough situation," Williams said by phone Thursday after scoring 29 points in a losing effort for the New Jersey Nets. "I'd be very disappointed [if Weber were fired]. That's my coach, and it would be hard for me.

This year's Illini team, which has lost four in a row and seven of its past eight, is in a struggle to make the NCAA tournament. New Illinois athletic director Mike Thomas, who fired football coach Ron Zook after last season, has yet to offer Weber a vote of confidence.

And after losing to Purdue on Wednesday, Weber's confidence seems to be at an all-time low. He said he's been coaching not to lose for the past three years, and he openly criticized his players. He issued a statement Thursday trying to soften his remarks, saying they were made after another frustrating loss.

Williams was recruited by former Illinois coach Bill Self but played for Weber his sophomore and junior seasons. He led the Illini to the 2005 NCAA championship game, and he was selected third in that year's NBA draft by the Utah Jazz. He is a three-time All-Star and an Olympic gold-medal winner.

"We were such a great team, and once we all left --- myself, James (Augustine), Luther (Head), (Roger Powell), Dee (Brown, after the following season), it was rebuilding time," he said. "(Weber) didn't have to worry about that stuff with us. We held each other accountable, believed in ourselves.

"Things changed a little bit, but I don't think it's his fault. We were tough, hard-nosed people. We liked to compete on the road. We were just different personalities (than the players now)."

That said, Williams does not fault Weber for recruiting those players.

"He's had some great recruits; they're getting guys," Williams said. "But I didn't care if I scored 30 points and had 12 assists, I just wanted to win. Dee, James, Roger, Luther, all the way down the line, we just bought into the system and philosophy, and the other classes haven't really done that.

"I watch some games now and they're not running things the same way, they're not getting the same looks."

Williams said it's not the system and it's not Weber's coaching.

"You can't scout the system. It's motion, it's just playing," he said. "We just knew how to do it, but it took us a while to get used to it. Really it wasn't until the second year (after Weber took over) that we picked it up pretty well."

As for Weber as a motivator, Williams also said his former coach did his job.

"He knew what buttons to push, how to get the most out of his players," Williams said. "But as a coach, you can only do so much. You have to hold yourself accountable, and the team has to hold itself accountable.

"There are so many rules where you can't make it mandatory to go to the gym and work on your game, but we wanted to play basketball no matter what, whether it was the offseason or the summertime. That's who we were. We wanted to win a national championship."

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:43 pm 
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Keeps getting worse.


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If they want to salvage the season, I think Weber needs to be gone tommorow.

Looking at it, may just beat Iowa the rest of the way.


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Holy fuck...a 36-4 (!) run by the (previously) worst team in the Big 10? Talk about a team quitting on the coach.

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Looking at it, may just beat Iowa the rest of the way.

You are giving the Illini too much credit.


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My new female friend is a big Nebraska fan and was sure to rub it in yesterday. That was painful.

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My new female friend is a big Nebraska fan and was sure to rub it in yesterday. That was painful.

Dump her before football season.


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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
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My new female friend is a big Nebraska fan and was sure to rub it in yesterday. That was painful.

Dump her before football season.


Now this is the kind of advice I log onto this site for. Thanks Vince. I still have a few months before
I have to kick her to the curb at least.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:21 am 
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T-Bone wrote:
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My new female friend is a big Nebraska fan and was sure to rub it in yesterday. That was painful.

Dump her before football season.


Now this is the kind of advice I log onto this site for. Thanks Vince. I still have a few months before
I have to kick her to the curb at least.

Those Huskers football fans are crazy.


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Yeah I am starting to see that. I made a few cracks about Nebraska the last week or so and didn't get
a real good reaction so I am learning that is kind of off limits if I want things to fall my way in the evenings.

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Yeah I am starting to see that. I made a few cracks about Nebraska the last week or so and didn't get
a real good reaction so I am learning that is kind of off limits if I want things to fall my way in the evenings.

Slept on the couch eh?


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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
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Yeah I am starting to see that. I made a few cracks about Nebraska the last week or so and didn't get
a real good reaction so I am learning that is kind of off limits if I want things to fall my way in the evenings.

Slept on the couch eh?


Luckily she forgives me quickly, but we haven't known each other that long. I need to watch it as I am
really bad at busting peoples balls when I get to know them well and helped earn me a divorce recently.

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Well Illini fans, the boys visit Columbus tonight to try to salvage some sort of shred of pride.
I really don't think that is going to happen, but I would like to at least see them play some
solid ball and try not to get beat by more than a dozen. The Sullinger vs Leonard matchup
intrigues me somewhat, I will admit that. I believe the game has a 6pm tip.

Oh by the way the game is on ESPN, so hopefully they don't get embarassed on national TV.

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Why does Weber put up with this? If your regular players have decided to quit, then put the scrubs in. Let them play the whole game and let the quitters sit. At this point, I would rather watch the rest of the freshman and sophomores play and lose than watch the regulars go out there and embarrass themselves.


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Ouch.

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fire this turd weber already..this is just too much

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fire this turd weber already..this is just too much


Firing him will not give his players pride. They are a complete embarrassment to the University the way they give no effort on the floor.


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This was painful. I will admit I didn't watch much after halftime. Bad shot selection, awful exection,
sophmoric turnovers. I had really high hopes for Brandon Paul when he came into the program but
I have no idea why he thinks he needs to try to put the whole team on his shoulders and win the game
by himself. He does a good job on defense and makes steals but his shot selection and decisions on
the court are embarassing to watch most of the time. Athleticism loses out to basketball dumb
everytime. I really hope Leonard sticks around to mature for at least one more season, he just lumbers
around like a big oaf and if he doesn't get the ball every other possesion he just puts his head down
and lopes around. I do like some of the young blood they have on this team but whoever the new
coach is he is going to have to scramble to bring in some solid size from the junior college ranks or
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Adam Hoge is currently on the Score arguing that Illinois is in trouble behind Northwestern because Illinois has bad losses on its schedule compared to Northwestern who, apparently, doesn't have any bad losses in its 11 Ls, per Mr. Hoge.

Ironically, one of Illinois worst losses is to.....Northwestern.

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