Aren't you making a moral argument though? If filming porn is illegal in that town would you then say that she is deserving of any blowback?

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I thought the pizza guy was getting the blowback?

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Of course it is.
Do I need to have the "birds and the bees" talk with you? I think you can tell the major differences between the two.

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For the sake of this discussion? Yes.

A teacher being in either of those professions would create enough of a distraction and moral dilemma that they would probably face the same response and consequence.

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Obviously you don't have to answer but is there something or someone that has been detrimental to your life and is alcohol related?

I've had too much to drink a few times in front of the school parents. I don't think it's altered my relationship with them. We've also talked about sex and I don't think that has been damaging. I'm pretty sure if I put a pizza box porn out on the internet they'd change their opinion. It's the graphic public consumption that makes something amiss.

Me? I'm actually attending an intervention this Friday for somebody I know. Too much booze.

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Kind of an odd stance for a guy like you that plays the "if its legal its ok" card.

One is legal, one is not

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I understand the difference but I could see a school having a problem with the ones I listed too.

What if a teacher appeared in Maxim? Some towns would be up in arms.

I just wonder what the line is?

It's not a moral statement. Lawbreaking is certainly within the scope of review even for things like unpaid traffic tickets within the municipality in which you work.

Is filming porn illegal anywhere? I'm pretty sure that would be unconstitutional.

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No, dolphin.

Sorry about your friend.

I don't think that is a fair characterization.
I don't know, but I know where getting paid to have sex with someone falls.

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So you don't think that schools should be able to review staff for things that are legal? This is purely a legal argument?

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Isnt the difference between weed and alcohol the legality?

Porn - Prostitution Alcohol-Weed is decent comparison




Yeah that's fine. Im not arguing that but I really wonder where the line is.

I am convinced that there are those here who would defend a porn star teacher smoking pot, drinking, & diddling herself in her school classroom in front of her students.
Discuss.

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It's probably frowned upon, if not illegal, in Utah and many bible-belt states.

Which brings me to my point, GD - you've spent many a thread talking about the virtues of the Catholic religion. Would being in the porn industry disqualify someone from teaching sunday school? Leading bible study? Being a confirmation sponsor? (Probably not the correct terms, but you get my point).

Before you say it - let's say all of the films were made with her husband.

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The Church shouldnt really turn anyone away

I;m not saying they should be turned away from the church completely - should they be allowed to continue in a teaching role (of children) within the church?

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There are a lot of differences between the two. Remember the whole "weed has never killed anyone and is harmless" discussions? Porn has all of the same things that makes prostitution illegal and films it. If it wasn't being filmed, it would be illegal.

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The official position of the Catholic Church is that sex outside the marital relationship is sinful. However, we are all sinners. I don't know.

Take it outside of religion and into what you are really getting at...does it make you a bad person.

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I am amazed you can sit the right way on a toilet seat.

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The whole discussion seems hypocritical to me as teaching and nursing school students were always the biggest good time girls on every campus I have attended.

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I have no idea if this lady is a "bad person". That's not my point. The point is she is choosing to participate in another profession which causes a huge distraction for her students and her employer - and is clearly at the center of a hot moral debate in the community and beyond. That's not what most people look for in their public school teachers. Most are looking for a safe, calm, nurturing environment for their children, students, etc.

You don't know if a person should be disqualified from those positions within the church - but it shouldn't be considered in a public school setting? Hate to go all spaulding, but 'that's odd'.

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No idea on the nursing students, but I'd agree on the teachers. They definitely have another side often times - they just shouldn't be paid to film it and distribute it.

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There are a lot of priests that are former junkies/dealers.

Im sure some specific people would object but overall I think a lot would accept anyone who believed and confessed their so called sins

So in this discussion, being a porn star would be considered a "sin"? That's good enough for me - shouldn't be a teacher.

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Well if she's a porn teacher, that sounds like an excellent presentation. Thats HANDS ON experience IN THE CLASSROOM

I didn't know you were asking for my opinin. The way you phrased it sounded like you wanted to know if they were disqualified by the institution, not good dolphin. But, the obvious difference is that teaching Sunday school is the teaching of a particular doctrine. Included in that doctrine is extramarital sex is sinful and it is difficult for a person continuing the sin to effectively teach the doctrine.

Don't public schools hand out condoms?

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Well, thats why I put so called. I wouldnt deem it a sin, but the church definitely would.

I dont know what you mean anyway. According to the Catholic church everyone sins all the time. So you'd have no teachers.


I DO think it's a good idea for public schools to take their cues from the Catholic church though.

I don't think this teacher, fairly or unfairly, will ever be able to effectively teach a classroom again.

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I'm just going to guess that if that were really true we'd have a lot less Sunday schools.

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