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 Post subject: Mario Williams
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The WR thread got me thinking about FAs. You guys want him or not?


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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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Having him and Peppers would buy Emery a few years to fill the upcoming holes at LB and CB as people age.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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If he doesn't completely crush our salary cap and chances to bring in some help at WR
I would be all for adding him. We would just need a serviceable interior line at that point.

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T-Bone wrote:
If he doesn't completely crush our salary cap and chances to bring in some help at WR
I would be all for adding him. We would just need a serviceable interior line at that point.


We already do on the roster

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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He's been a little OUCHY the last two seasons.


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Northside_Dan wrote:
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If he doesn't completely crush our salary cap and chances to bring in some help at WR
I would be all for adding him. We would just need a serviceable interior line at that point.


We already do on the roster


Right. I didn't word that well. Obviously we could improve but we likely have enough depth
there to hold their own while those guys crashed in the ends.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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emery has all the time in the world , bringing in mario williams could only save lovies' ass..not worth the money to bring in williams..this team is the third best in the division and needs to get young..not buy a lil more time.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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Yeah....might as well stock up on defensesive ends and improve that since the FA WRs basically are suck.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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Wow.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/12/in-chicago-bears-viewed-as-favorites-to-land-mario-williams/


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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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Having him and Peppers makes the entire defense better, especially the secondary. I would love for them to get him and Jackson.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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desean jackson? think he was franchised ...will williams make the defense better? yes...but stlll not enough to take the packers or detroit.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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also heard on the score today that the vikings win at the end of the year cost the bears 8 draft slots. this team needs to get worse before it gets better..williams may add 2 more wins so the bears win 9 games instead of 7 and pick later again..stop plugging holes to stay mediocre and build a winner....if the bears are picking 11 instead of 19 they get a legit wr in the first.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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You're forgetting Cutler and Forte missed a chunk of the season.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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As much as I want the Bears to go all Offense, the thought of Mario on the Bears DL is pretty damn exciting. I cant wait for tomorrow. I have an office day all day tomorrow & the only appointment I have is with my TV at 3:00PM. Could the Bears be the first team to announce a signing? This should be fun, especially with the cash that the Bears have to spend.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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also heard on the score today that the vikings win at the end of the year cost the bears 8 draft slots. this team needs to get worse before it gets better..williams may add 2 more wins so the bears win 9 games instead of 7 and pick later again..stop plugging holes to stay mediocre and build a winner....if the bears are picking 11 instead of 19 they get a legit wr in the first.

What? Sometimes it's hard to understand what you're thinking when it comes to tv shows, sports, drugs, toys, and vegetables. You're obviously ignoring Cutler and Forte missing 5-6 games each or whatever it was and the Bears roster is clearly in a win-now mode. The defense is aging but could still be great and they don't exactly have any young superstars to build around. A team with Cutler, Forte, Peppers, Urlachwe, Briggs, and possibly Mario Williams as it's best players isn't rebuilding, it's probably contending.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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also heard on the score today that the vikings win at the end of the year cost the bears 8 draft slots. this team needs to get worse before it gets better..williams may add 2 more wins so the bears win 9 games instead of 7 and pick later again..stop plugging holes to stay mediocre and build a winner....if the bears are picking 11 instead of 19 they get a legit wr in the first.

What? Sometimes it's hard to understand what you're thinking when it comes to tv shows, sports, drugs, toys, and vegetables. You're obviously ignoring Cutler and Forte missing 5-6 games each or whatever it was and the Bears roster is clearly in a win-now mode. The defense is aging but could still be great and they don't exactly have any young superstars to build around. A team with Cutler, Forte, Peppers, Urlachwe, Briggs, and possibly Mario Williams as it's best players isn't rebuilding, it's probably contending.


Exactly. Despite the Bears needs, they are only a WR, OL, & DB away from contending next year.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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I like the move, but still I cant help but be a little hesistant to add even more money to the defense with an offense with so many more holes.

The fact that williams will replace Peppers eventually softens the blow

A good defense helps, but you arent winning in today's NFL without a way above average offense


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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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Assuming they don't significantly overpay to get him I would love this move. I think the WR issues are overblown. Let's say they add Colston. What does the offense become? It's still Forte based. I don't see the Bears becoming an offense that throws for 5,000 yards a season even with an upgrade at WR. Not to mention, that league wide, most big name WR's don't result in a major upgrade. Remember Anquan Boldin and T.J. Houshmandzadeh?

Now, add in Mario Williams, and Peppers can no longer be double teamed and Urlacher and Briggs are given more space to do what they do.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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But Colston, a high draft pick and another FA would have an impact, and that is realistically what the Bears need. They will be down at least 2 and possibly 3 WR from last year (I count Knox out). Say they get Colston, Jeffrey and Laurent Robinson to go with Bennett. That is a group that can have an impact.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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A good defense helps, but you arent winning in today's NFL without a way above average offense
I get what you are saying, but the two time Super Bowl Champion (9-7) Giants disagree with you. Yes Eli was playing as good as anybody those 2 playoff runs, but they were not an elite offense by any stretch their 2 SB seasons. Good, but not way above average during the regular season.

The teams with the best offenses in the NFL this past season went a combined 1-2 in the playoffs. Just playing devil's advocate is all.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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i hope i am wrong..but i doubt it...i think there is a slim chance urlacher stays healthy ...i think the window closed on this defense ...what i see coming is a "get off the bus running" offense..where tice appeases lovie and runs the ball 35 times a game and tries to grind out the clock...too many holes on offense for this team to be a mario williams away from taking packers and lions..the line sucks..the secondary sucks ..the wide receivers suck...the tight ends suck.. losing martz will increase cutlers' chances of staying healthy but there are too many holes to fill.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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But Colston, a high draft pick and another FA would have an impact, and that is realistically what the Bears need. They will be down at least 2 and possibly 3 WR from last year (I count Knox out). Say they get Colston, Jeffrey and Laurent Robinson to go with Bennett. That is a group that can have an impact.
I don't see them going both with a top free agent WR and a first round WR pick. I guess if Floyd were to fall to them they would but I doubt that happens.

I don't know if I can be convinced about any free agent WR given how there pretty much hasn't been a good one in recent memory. Who was the last game changing WR that worked out for the money?

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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The money to get either is probably going to be similar? Maybe Williams is a bit more, but he by far has the ability to make a greater impact.

If I had to pick between the two, I'd sign Williams today and address WR in draft and 2nd tier FA's like Manningham, Garcon etc.

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Having a great DE usually makes any defense good. Having 2 makes your defense great. Tillman and others have been forced to cover for 5+ seconds at times. That is a recipe for disaster. The Bears wouldn't have to worry about that again. With Rodgers and Stafford in the division the Bears have to find a way to slow them down. They still have a chance to land Jackson and fill a couple of holes after signing Williams. Bears have a cap guru so I know he'll make the numbers work.

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A good defense helps, but you arent winning in today's NFL without a way above average offense
I get what you are saying, but the two time Super Bowl Champion (9-7) Giants disagree with you. Yes Eli was playing as good as anybody those 2 playoff runs, but they were not an elite offense by any stretch their 2 SB seasons.

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HAPPY MARIO WILLIAMS DAY!!!!!!

Do whatever it takes. I want him on the Bears. They have a ton of cap room. They can get Williams, plus a FA WR plus draft a WR and suddenly the team looks a lot better. They need help at safety and OL and the health of Cutler needs to be proven, but damn......that defense will keep you in a lot of games by themselves.

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 Post subject: Re: Mario Williams
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I feel a lot like I did about Peppers. They cannot ignore the offense and win.


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I feel a lot like I did about Peppers. They cannot ignore the offense and win.

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