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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:19 pm 
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How much is this Ozzie tirade going to cost him $$ or the Marlins in community donations?

Not trying to stereotype the hot headed stubborn latinos here, but if ozzie was mocked in the same way, he would probably not drop it as well.

The Cuban community in Miami is not going to let this die with an apology.

While I agree he will not be fired right away, if this gets some steam and gets out of hand, firing Ozzie could be cheaper.

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I agree. The White Sox did an amazing job in trading Ozzie at the right time. Good job Jerry and Kenny!

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Depending on the backlash I could see a suspension or possibly Ozzie stepping down.

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 Post subject: Re: Ozzie
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:29 pm 
Has Oney checked in on this yet?


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 Post subject: Re: Ozzie
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Has Oney checked in on this yet?


Going to bet they are not hanging out in the Cuban nightclubs.

This is a very organized and concentrated group of people, who might not forgive so easy.

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Depending on the backlash I could see a suspension or possibly Ozzie stepping down.

If the Marlins underachieve, I can see this incident recurring like a cold sore all season until he's finally gone at the end of the year.

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 Post subject: Re: Ozzie
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Depending on the backlash I could see a suspension or possibly Ozzie stepping down.

If the Marlins underachieve, I can see this incident recurring like a cold sore all season until he's finally gone at the end of the year.


Thats the point. This could get really ugly, just as easy as it could go away.

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 Post subject: Re: Ozzie
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Nas wrote:
Depending on the backlash I could see a suspension or possibly Ozzie stepping down.

Why would he be suspended? Seems a little silly to punish someone for expressing their beliefs.

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Depending on the backlash I could see a suspension or possibly Ozzie stepping down.

Why would he be suspended? Seems a little silly to punish someone for expressing their beliefs.


The Marlins have a tough time getting asses in seats and a gesture like that may appease the Cuban community. They're going to have to do something big, I don't believe an apology is going to be good enough. If this ends up dramatically hurting attendance at their new ballpark, you will see Ozzie step down.

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 Post subject: Re: Ozzie
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Nas wrote:
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Depending on the backlash I could see a suspension or possibly Ozzie stepping down.

Why would he be suspended? Seems a little silly to punish someone for expressing their beliefs.


The Marlins have a tough time getting asses in seats and a gesture like that may appease the Cuban community. They're going to have to do something big, I don't believe an apology is going to be good enough. If this ends up dramatically hurting attendance at their new ballpark, you will see Ozzie step down.

This is just silly. Punishing someone for expressing his/her beliefs is just all too common in sports. And I don't even think John Rocker should have ever been suspended. I would have thrown him out there every single game and have the people throw D batteries at him. Athletes are dumb. Being dumb is what makes them so funny when they speak. Why prevent that from happening? All this encourages is less athletes opening their mouth and expressing their stupid beliefs.

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 Post subject: Re: Ozzie
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No excuses. He doesn't have Kenny to blame anymore. I think Cowley had it backward.

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He's the manager though. Money talks. They're not going to let Ozzie come in and hurt sales. I just don't think an apology will be good enough. I could very well be wrong but this has the potential to be huge.

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Nas wrote:
He's the manager though. Money talks. They're not going to let Ozzie come in and hurt sales. I just don't think an apology will be good enough. I could very well be wrong but this has the potential to be huge.


Nas, are you really going to argue with DB about this? If he doesnt get it, so be it.

Good to see all of Ozzies ex Cuban players running to his side.

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bigfan wrote:
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He's the manager though. Money talks. They're not going to let Ozzie come in and hurt sales. I just don't think an apology will be good enough. I could very well be wrong but this has the potential to be huge.


Nas, are you really going to argue with DB about this? If he doesnt get it, so be it.

Good to see all of Ozzies ex Cuban players running to his side.

I get it, and completely understand the argument. It doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Ozzie
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I feel bad for Oz, the man shouldn't have to apoligize for his opinion. People are such bitches nowadays.

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I feel bad for Oz, the man shouldn't have to apoligize for his opinion. People are such bitches nowadays.


People have to apologize for their opinions all the time. This isn't the first time Ozzie has had to do so. You'd think he would have learned not to constantly spout them. If I told everyone I know what I think of them, I'd undoubtedly be walking around with a broken nose.

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Depending on the backlash I could see a suspension or possibly Ozzie stepping down.

Why would he be suspended? Seems a little silly to punish someone for expressing their beliefs.


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He's the manager though. Money talks. They're not going to let Ozzie come in and hurt sales. I just don't think an apology will be good enough. I could very well be wrong but this has the potential to be huge.


Nas, are you really going to argue with DB about this? If he doesnt get it, so be it.

Good to see all of Ozzies ex Cuban players running to his side.

I get it, and completely understand the argument. It doesn't mean I have to agree with it.


Consider the increased responsibility of his position as he now represents management. It's not quite a statment from a GM but field manager deserves increased accountability above a player in terms of personal conduct.

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Consider the increased responsibility of his position as he now represents management. It's not quite a statment from a GM but field manager deserves increased accountability above a player in terms of personal conduct.

The only accountability he should have is to the team's on field success. Nothing else matters. Dale Svuem could join Al Qaeda if it brought a world series to this town, and I wouldn't give a damn.

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Consider the increased responsibility of his position as he now represents management. It's not quite a statment from a GM but field manager deserves increased accountability above a player in terms of personal conduct.

The only accountability he should have is to the team's on field success. Nothing else matters. Dale Svuem could join Al Qaeda if it brought a world series to this town, and I wouldn't give a damn.


That's you, and certainly there are other fans like you. But there are also many fans- most likely more fans- that prefer not to have a serial killer on their team even if the guy can throw up a triple double every night.

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Dale Svuem could join Al Qaeda if it brought a world series to this town, and I wouldn't give a damn.


I completely agree but most people wouldn't. I would cheer for Hitler if he were a star player on a Chicago team.

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Even if you aren't starving for fans like the Marlins are, you don't insult a group of people the way Ozzie did. The Marlins are begging for their support and Ozzie set them back. The manager isn't supposed to be a financially liability.

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That was quick --- First week on the job and he's been suspended five games.


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That was quick --- First week on the job and he's been suspended five games.


I don't really get what that does. It doesn't change what he said, what he feels, or who he is. They couldn't wait to get that goof down there. Now they've got him. I'm sure Kenny took a break from working out to chuckle. Cowley under siege defending his boss on Twitter.

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They're probably going to need to do a lot more than that. They're going to be kissing a lot of Cuban ass.

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That was quick --- First week on the job and he's been suspended five games.


I don't really get what that does. It doesn't change what he said, what he feels, or who he is. They couldn't wait to get that goof down there. Now they've got him.

In theory, it supposed to teach him to keep his opinions to himself next time. Don't say anything that will embarrass/cause harm to any of your employers or their sponsors.

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They're probably going to need to do a lot more than that. They're going to be kissing a lot of Cuban ass.

Thank god Bernstein taught me that Cuban asses aren't as big and jiggly as Brazilian asses.


That guy really is a moron.

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