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That was quick --- First week on the job and he's been suspended five games.


I don't really get what that does. It doesn't change what he said, what he feels, or who he is. They couldn't wait to get that goof down there. Now they've got him.

In theory, it supposed to teach him to keep his opinions to himself next time. Don't say anything that will embarrass/cause harm to any of your employers or their sponsors.


I guess they don't know him well enough in Miami to realize that will never work.

In other Guillen news, some dude named Cubannator is tearing Oney up on Twitter.

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They're probably going to need to do a lot more than that. They're going to be kissing a lot of Cuban ass.

Thank god Bernstein taught me that Cuban asses aren't as big and jiggly as Brazilian asses.


That guy really is a moron.

I'm sure that comment was made with a his tongue planted firmly in cheek.

Pun intended...

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Oz suspended 5 games by Marlins - Coop asks permission to be Miami's interim manager.

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To me the most remarkable part is Ozzie lives in Miami.


How did he not know what kind of reaction that would get?
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Consider the increased responsibility of his position as he now represents management. It's not quite a statment from a GM but field manager deserves increased accountability above a player in terms of personal conduct.

The only accountability he should have is to the team's on field success. Nothing else matters. Dale Svuem could join Al Qaeda if it brought a world series to this town, and I wouldn't give a damn.

Sounds like a Happy Valley mentality.

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To me the most remarkable part is Ozzie lives in Miami.


How did he not know what kind of reaction that would get?


He doesn't care. He has to be honest.

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So, let me get this straight, Joe Cowley has taken to Twitter to defend Ozzie even thought he isn't even the manager of the White Sox anymore?

There is something wrong with this guy, seriously wrong.

Makes me wonder just how much went on that Cowley didn't report...
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This is just asinine. The entire thing.

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So, let me get this straight, Joe Cowley has taken to Twitter to defend Ozzie even thought he isn't even the manager of the White Sox anymore?

There is something wrong with this guy, seriously wrong.

Makes me wonder just how much went on that Cowley didn't report...


Cowley called Hawk a drunk in one of his spirited defenses of Ozzie's own drunkenness.

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The pain and suffering caused by Fidel Castro cannot be minimized especially in a community filled with victims of the dictatorship.

They actually posted that on Twitter?

Some things are just not social media appropriate. Apologies are one of them.

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So, let me get this straight, Joe Cowley has taken to Twitter to defend Ozzie even thought he isn't even the manager of the White Sox anymore?

There is something wrong with this guy, seriously wrong.

Makes me wonder just how much went on that Cowley didn't report...


Cowley called Hawk a drunk in one of his spirited defenses of Ozzie's own drunkenness.

Saw that. Kinda made it sound like Hawk was drunk during games.......

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It's clear what Ozzie was trying to say. He obviously doesn't support people who are being oppressed and forced to live in bad conditions.

Such a joke. The Marlins twitter person is a turd as well.

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This whole situation has been blown way out of proportion. Didnt warrant a suspension at all.

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To me the most remarkable part is Ozzie lives in Miami.


How did he not know what kind of reaction that would get?


He doesn't care. He has to be honest.

He totally thinks He's Castro

Everyone against him and he and his family persevere.


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So, let me get this straight, Joe Cowley has taken to Twitter to defend Ozzie even thought he isn't even the manager of the White Sox anymore?

There is something wrong with this guy, seriously wrong.

Makes me wonder just how much went on that Cowley didn't report...


Cowley called Hawk a drunk in one of his spirited defenses of Ozzie's own drunkenness.

Saw that. Kinda made it sound like Hawk was drunk during games.......


No wonder he says Matt Abbatacola so much!

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It's clear what Ozzie was trying to say. He obviously doesn't support people who are being oppressed and forced to live in bad conditions.
His exact quote is "I love Fidel Castro".

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It's clear what Ozzie was trying to say.


I don't think it is clear. What do you think he was trying to say?

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It's clear what Ozzie was trying to say.


I don't think it is clear. What do you think he was trying to say?

Here's a comment he made about Castro in 2008.

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"Fidel Castro," he said. "He's a bull---- dictator and everybody's against him, and he still survives, has power. Still has a country behind him. Everywhere he goes they roll out the red carpet. I don't admire his philosophy. I admire him."

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Guillen says what he meant to say was: He can't believe that someone who hurt so many people over all the years is still alive.


So that's why he loves him?

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It's clear what Ozzie was trying to say.


I don't think it is clear. What do you think he was trying to say?

He appreciates Castro's staying power in the face of so many trying to take him down.
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He totally thinks He's Castro

Everyone against him and he and his family persevere.


and Tony Montana

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I would also like Garrett Morris doing the Ozzie press conference for the hearing impaired.

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It's clear what Ozzie was trying to say.


I don't think it is clear. What do you think he was trying to say?

He appreciates Castro's staying power in the face of so many trying to take him down.



Right. You can admire Hitler for what he was able to accomplish in terms of unifying his country but still despise his world philosophy and politics. It's not mutually exclusive. I think that's what Ozzie was attempting to say, but obviously could have used much better words.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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It's clear what Ozzie was trying to say.


I don't think it is clear. What do you think he was trying to say?

He appreciates Castro's staying power in the face of so many trying to take him down.


But how is that different from Marge Schott saying she admires Hitler's road building? It's just goddamn dumb. Maybe if he spent more time trying to understand why wasting outs isn't a great idea than he does worrying about spouting his uneducated opinions of every tinpot dictator in Latin America, he'd win more ballgames.

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He appreciates Castro's staying power in the face of so many trying to take him down.
No. He said he loves Fidel Castro. That's different than appreciating something. I can appreciate your staying power in the face of so many trying to take you down but I certainly don't love you.

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