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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:58 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:59 am 
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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"Losing Pitcher" John Danks
The more he pitches , the more I think JORR's stance on Danks is correct.


It's not just my stance on Danks, I have what you might call an anti-stance regarding the way the game has come to be viewed through statistics which are ultimately averages.

I hate when I hear someone say a guy "pitched well enough to win". If he had pitched well enough to win, he would have won. I guess what the guy is really saying is that the pitcher pitched well enough to win some hypothetical game vs. a different team in a different ballpark with different weather conditions and a different plate umpire than the game he was actually pitching on the day he actually pitched.

It's easy to assume that a guy with a low ERA will eventually have a good W/L record, but it isn't always true and it isn't always due to factors other than the pitcher himself.

Back to Danks, I'm not ready to call the guy gutless. I remember him letting it all hang out in the "Blackout Game". But for the better part of two seasons now he's been pitching just well enough to lose a lot of the time. His team scores and gives him a lead, the next half-inning he gives it up- or at least tries to give it up.

People are trying to run Corey Crawford out of town for playing goalie exactly the way John Danks pitches.[/quote] Apt comparison.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:10 am 
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I hate the deal with Danks. A couple years back I really thought he was going to turn into one of the best pitchers in the league over the next 10 years.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:15 am 
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He will.

He's on the Curt Schilling career arc.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:55 am 
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I dunno whats going on with Danks, but its goddam frustrating.

See DeLeon, Jose.


If you looked at the career numbers of Jose DeLeon juxtaposed against those of Jack McDowell without having any idea of who either guy was, you'd easily think that DeLeon was the better pitcher. They played on the same team in the prime of their careers and the guy with the lesser numbers was a Cy Young winner and undisputed ace of his staff and the other guy was a fucking mop-up man.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:35 pm 
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When are these fucking idiots going to send one Gordon Beckham to the fucking Minor Leagues?
I am fucking tired of watching this fuckhead striking fucking out.

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1. Mike Aviles (R) SS
2. Ryan Sweeney (L) RF
3. Dustin Pedroia (R) 2B
4. Adrian Gonzalez (L) 1B
5. David Ortiz (L) DH
6. Kevin Youkilis (R) 3B
7. Jarrod Saltalamacchia (S) C
8. Cody Ross (R) LF
9. Marlon Byrd (R) CF

1. Alejandro De Aza (L) CF
2. Alexei Ramirez (R) SS
3. Adam Dunn (L) DH
4. Paul Konerko (R) 1B
5. Alex Rios (R) RF
6. Dayan Viciedo (R) LF
7. Tyler Flowers (R) C
8. Brent Morel (R) 3B
9. Gordon Beckham (R) 2B

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:31 pm 
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I hope Hawk doesn't whine about "our guys getting squeezed out there" because Lester has had a few very close pitches not go his way.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:40 pm 
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Jakemiester is looking good early. Get him some runs, Boys.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:22 pm 
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What an outing by Jake. Now get him a run or two for fucks sake.


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Assholes.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:02 am 
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1. Mike Aviles (R) SS
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3. Dustin Pedroia (R) 2B
4. Adrian Gonzalez (L) 1B
5. David Ortiz (L) DH
6. Kevin Youkilis (R) 3B
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:27 am 
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Aggravated Bob gets his wish of no Bacon.

1. Alejandro De Aza (L) CF
2. Brent Lillibridge (R) 3B
3. Adam Dunn (L) 1B
4. Paul Konerko (R) DH
5. A.J. Pierzynski (L) C
6. Alex Rios (R) RF
7. Alexei Ramirez (R) SS
8. Dayan Viciedo (R) LF
9. Eduardo Escobar (S) 2B

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Chus wrote:
Aggravated Bob gets his wish of no Bacon.


I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess he doesn't think replacing him with Escobar is the answer. :lol:

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Chus wrote:
Aggravated Bob gets his wish of no Bacon.

1. Alejandro De Aza (L) CF
2. Brent Lillibridge (R) 3B
3. Adam Dunn (L) 1B
4. Paul Konerko (R) DH
5. A.J. Pierzynski (L) C
6. Alex Rios (R) RF
7. Alexei Ramirez (R) SS
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Donkey! That ball was destroyed.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:47 pm 
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Why is today's home plate umpitre grabbing his balls before every pitch?

Wait, it looks like he only does that for left handed batters for some weird reason.


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Beardown wrote:
Why is today's home plate umpitre grabbing his balls before every pitch?

Wait, it looks like he only does that for left handed batters for some weird reason.

Because he's Italian?

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1 out of 4 isn't bad.

Oh wait...

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