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SomeGuy

Post subject: Re: 5/16 Heat are deadly, Torii Hunter's kids go to Penn Sta

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:16 pm

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Dewskie wrote:

Dave In Champaign wrote:

Also: the LeBron talk has progressed from strawman to full-blown emperor's-clothes BS. He's the best player in the league. Fine. He's enormously fun to watch. No argument there. He's an amazing talent who does unbelievable things. Right there with you. Know what else? At this particular stage of his career, he absolutely, undeniably, irrefutably sucks in big moments. These facts are not mutually exclusive. LeBron James is not the player Goff and Bernstein want him to be, and engaging in increasingly labored and reactionary dismissals of his critics only throws that fact into ever-starker relief while undermining their own credibility--I mean, it's kinda tough to seriously entertain their critiques of "the Boo-yahs" when their every mention of LeBron is positively greasy with starfucking Mothership-style meatballery.

Great post. All they're focusing on is LeBron purely as a basketball talent - size, ability, potential, but being selective about which arguments they'll field over his faults. Unfortunately for them the major fault LeBron has that will forever keep him out of "...of all time" lists is the lack of desire to be the man. If the ball's in LeBron's hands with 10 seconds left and he had the choice of taking the last shot or passing to Wade, he's passing to Wade ten times out of ten. That lack of killer instinct and subconscious desire to play second fiddle is going to tarnish whatever legacy he leaves behind.

Those are things that would be considered "intangibles" you can't put them in a computer simulation, Fangraphs or projections.

Hence the lack of words about them. If it continues it will be LeBrons ultimate failure and his legacy....just another guy with all-universe talent that couldn't go the distance.

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Sum1Here

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:19 pm

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Dewskie wrote:

Dave In Champaign wrote:

Their guest agrees with this...funny they don't challenge him on it.

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Dewskie

Post subject: Re: 5/16 Heat are deadly, Torii Hunter's kids go to Penn Sta

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:23 pm

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Sum1Here wrote:

Their guest agrees with this...funny they don't challenge him on it.

They'll wait. Berns has been dutifully deferential to Jason on basketball thoughts with Boers out.

Now time for pointless medical banter, or the "Dan Bernstein Newfound Medical Terminology" segment.

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:36 pm

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I'm starting to wonder if we have a potential baseball Vinny on our hands with Robin Ventura...

There's no such thing. A baseball manager is damn near irrelevant.

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:36 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

SHARK wrote:

I'm starting to wonder if we have a potential baseball Vinny on our hands with Robin Ventura...

There's no such thing. A baseball manager is damn near irrelevant.

Robin doesn't run a ton of stuff.

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SomeGuy

Post subject: Re: 5/16 Heat are deadly, Torii Hunter's kids go to Penn Sta

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:39 pm

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

SHARK wrote:

I'm starting to wonder if we have a potential baseball Vinny on our hands with Robin Ventura...

There's no such thing. A baseball manager is damn near irrelevant.

Robin doesn't run a ton of stuff.

He's only got, like, 3 or 4 plays.

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badrogue17

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:44 pm

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SomeGuy wrote:

If he is awesome with the statistics and such but can't close the big deals....then what type of player is he?

One who won't be making it rain at Polekatz gentleman's club I can tell you that.

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SomeGuy

Post subject: Re: 5/16 Heat are deadly, Torii Hunter's kids go to Penn Sta

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:17 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

SomeGuy wrote:

If he is awesome with the statistics and such but can't close the big deals....then what type of player is he?

One who won't be making it rain at Polekatz gentleman's club I can tell you that.

He will be sitting next to Dominique Wilkins getting a $5 handy-andy from the chubby chick with the c-section scar at Jimmy's Restaurant.

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Dewskie

Post subject: Re: 5/16 Heat are deadly, Torii Hunter's kids go to Penn Sta

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:23 pm

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GOFF: Kane is drunk and white, LeBron is awesome.
BERNS: *random impression*
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BERNS: White people are awful, I hate them.
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BERNS: "I dunno what your sayin', I can't hear ya."
GOFF: tee hee hee

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Post subject: Re: 5/16 Heat are deadly, Torii Hunter's kids go to Penn Sta

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:24 pm

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SHARK wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Del Negro shows up BOOM your point guard is the best in conference

Well, he can tell potential employers that, but he still can't coach...

I'm not following the first part of your statement. What do you mean?

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RFDC

Post subject: Re: 5/16 Heat are deadly, Torii Hunter's kids go to Penn Sta

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:25 pm

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Dewskie wrote:

Don't go down the Beardown path

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Dewskie

Post subject: Re: 5/16 Heat are deadly, Torii Hunter's kids go to Penn Sta

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:27 pm

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RFDC wrote:

Dewskie wrote:

Don't go down the Beardown path

I'd just like them to do something fresh for a change. Is the show a "more intelligent brand of sports talk" or is it just meandering stupidity? I hate when they stay on the fence. Field some damn calls or something.

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SomeGuy

Post subject: Re: 5/16 Heat are deadly, Torii Hunter's kids go to Penn Sta

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:34 pm

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RFDC wrote:

Dewskie wrote:

Don't go down the Beardown path

That's not really a Beardown path because the above by Dewskie really was the entire show today and a lot of other days as well.

If he was to really walk down that dark and tumultuous path it would look a lot different.

And Dewskie, for real, I agree with you. Time to change direction or at least pick a lane. If you want to be a "high brow" sports talk show then be one, if you want to resort to the above then do so. Don't tell me you're part of some super-intellectual ivy-league sports show and then go ahead and break bad on Larry Bird so you can get these supposed "angry white people" to call in who don't exist.

It is getting close to being Mike Nort' with better grammar.

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Dewskie

Post subject: Re: 5/16 Heat are deadly, Torii Hunter's kids go to Penn Sta

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:37 pm

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If Dan retired the Tebow impression while Goff was simultaneously forced to resign from ever using dameneh again, the world would be a better place.

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Tad Queasy

Post subject: Re: 5/16 Heat are deadly, Torii Hunter's kids go to Penn Sta

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:47 pm

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SomeGuy wrote:

And Dewskie, for real, I agree with you. Time to change direction or at least pick a lane. If you want to be a "high brow" sports talk show then be one, if you want to resort to the above then do so. Don't tell me you're part of some super-intellectual ivy-league sports show and then go ahead and break bad on Larry Bird so you can get these supposed "angry white people" to call in who don't exist.

It is getting close to being Mike Nort' with better grammar.

It devolved into that a long time ago. The examples you and Dewskie just gave and the ones people give on an almost daily basis are proof of that. For a show that claims to foster intelligent discourse it actively sets out to do the exact opposite.

I'm sure they're both raking it in and are perfectly content to leave it on autopilot until ratings and/or advertisers tell them otherwise. They won't "fix" what, according to the ratings, isn't broken.

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:56 pm

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I like Dewskie better than UOK.

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Dewskie

Post subject: Re: 5/16 Heat are deadly, Torii Hunter's kids go to Penn Sta

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:57 pm

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Obviously it's not news, and I'm not saying the show is bad at all, it's just not as good without focus. The Sandusky stuff was some of the best I've ever heard on this show, but I think that has sent Berns off into this random side direction where he needs to just keep digging and digging into the very limits of sports-transcending material to the point where it's just trivial now.

With Goff here now they've simply been talking too much. They've fielded maybe 2 calls in 3 hours.

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I like Dewskie better than UOK.

Thanks, that guy's a piece of shit.

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:10 pm

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This is clearly the "LeBron James Love Show" now....holy shit!

Bernstein likes Shaq now that he stood up for LeBron...what a transparent joke.

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Dewskie

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:15 pm

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Sum1Here wrote:

This is clearly the "LeBron James Love Show" now....holy shit!

Bernstein likes Shaq now that he stood up for LeBron...what a transparent joke.

It was Charles that stood up for LeBron, Shaq actually made some sense. Sometimes you gotta just disregard the play and step up. LeBron doesn't want to do that.

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:19 pm

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Dan criticizing ESPN for hosts saying things just to say things.

Thursday at 5 dickbag.

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Sum1Here

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:22 pm

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Dewskie wrote:

Sum1Here wrote:

This is clearly the "LeBron James Love Show" now....holy shit!

Bernstein likes Shaq now that he stood up for LeBron...what a transparent joke.

It was Charles that stood up for LeBron, Shaq actually made some sense. Sometimes you gotta just disregard the play and step up. LeBron doesn't want to do that.

I realize that but at the end Shaq's point validated Barkley's point which is when fanboys Bernstein and Goff hopped aboard the "Shaq ain't so bad" train.

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Sum1Here

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:33 pm

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Finally!!......something interesting.

Mike from Milwaukee

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Dewskie

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:35 pm

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Who doesn't love Mike?

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SomeGuy

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Sum1Here wrote:

Finally!!......something interesting.

Mike from Milwaukee

This guy is Danny Mac in 10 years

or

This guy is Boers in 2 years.

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Sum1Here

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:37 pm

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They got Mike off too quick...he should stick around until Loho starts telling people to text if they're shy...might increase listenership.

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Matches Malone

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:55 pm

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spmack wrote:

I like Dewskie better than UOK.

You don't like orange kleats?

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:19 pm

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Tad Queasy wrote:

SomeGuy wrote:

They've got a good thing going -- well, good for them, maybe -- where they're whatever they say they are until they aren't. It's an intelligent show unless they don't want it to be. They will not suffer fools who dare to dissent with their years of basketball wisdom but then again Avery Johnson did win a championship so they're idiots. Dan has thoughts on the entire world of sports until you ask him who he thinks will win a game at which point oh my God why do you even care. Jason's the NBA insider until come on guys you know he never said he was an NBA insider. It must be nice to dictate all the terms of your private radio reality.

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Dewskie

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:41 pm

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Matches Malone wrote:

spmack wrote:

I like Dewskie better than UOK.

You don't like orange kleats?

C'mon now, oranj kleats. If you're going to mock my lame ass former handle, do so with accuracy.

Curious Hair wrote:

I appreciate aspects of the show's premise: non-meatball catering, dismissing idiots, touching on those subjects that go beyond sports, and also the random hilarity, inside humor, and running gags. Yet they're getting more and more dismissive of callers each show. They take so few of them in comparison to other hosts that it feels like they've given up on the very Chicago Stupid that made them big. Making fun of idiots is what works for them, so take more calls from idiots.

At the same token don't intentionally have Jason and Matt screen calls that aren't imbeciles. Bah, I dunno. It's hard to give an accurate prescription of why I've slightly soured on B & B when there's still glimmers of why I keep listening.

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No Clever Moniker

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:12 pm

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I attempted to make two posts criticizing the show and citing much of what has been posted here. PTFB came early in taking Kaner to task, the reliance upon anonymous marginal sources, Deadspin, and the limited anecdotal past of Jason Goff. Far more weak mileage than the story is worth.

The show could and should be better but they want it both ways and don't want to pick a lane. There is no question as to the talent of LBJ but he fails the litmus tests presented to most every other athlete they denigrate. As posted above, they can speak with certainty as to who should lose and why but can't/won't pick a winner.

The essence of front-running meatball bastards.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

Dan criticizing ESPN for hosts saying things just to say things.

Thursday at 5 dickbag.

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