. We need a big stay-at-home lumbering ogre at defense. .

Trae Young will be a bust. Book It!

One piece of the cog is returning; Oduya back for 3 years, I like him...

You're not a Hawks fan, why would you get it? That would require actually watching Hawks games.


Anyone who doesn't understand why Oduya is a bad signing is either hockey retarded or didn't watch any Hawks playoff games this year.

3.3 is overpaying for a guy that got absolutely pantsed in the playoffs.

He was the only one who moved the puck with confidence and he's reliable in his own zone, so he's Swedish and a little undersized; pair him with Curious' ogre and all is well... Let's see what Stan does with the second center position before you shoot him



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Trae Young will be a bust. Book It!

Did you even watch a single Hawks playoff game? He didn't move the puck at all and he was the worst player in the series in his own zone, even worse than Leddy.


Just stick to your Kings, liking more than one team isn't something anyone over the age of 13 should be doing anyway.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

When it comes to the Bears, America is just a slobbering shitwagon. Every single opinion of his regarding this team is the most pristine of doomsday horseshit.

Well shit, if it's $3.375 for three years of Oduya, now I'm not sure it's such a good move.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

Im pretty hammered right now.

Somebody is going to get shipped out. They will have plenty o' cap space when that happens.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

Sharp?

Im pretty hammered right now.

Possibly.

Given Bowman's comments yesterday and some of the columns out today, I wouldn't be surprised if it's all part of preparing the public for Kane's departure also.

What's been said? It'd be interesting to see how they do without him.

Im pretty hammered right now.

In terms of players that actually have some value.

Players I'd be Actively Shopping:
Sharp
Hammer
Stalberg (due for a pay raise soon, maybe someone will overpay)

I'm listening, but you'd have to blow me away
Bolland
Keith
Leddy


No Chance
Toews
Kane
Seabrook
Hossa

Im pretty hammered right now.

Spanky, it sounds like a lot of the Hawks problems are behind the scenes. It's hard to believe all the crap with personnel decisions and on ice coaching between Bowman and Q.

Im pretty hammered right now.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

They're not moving Kane or Sharp.

Im pretty hammered right now.

Why make any public comments (on or off the record, both were done) about an of-age player drinking in public?

I watched parts of every Hawks game this year. I'll be the first to admit I don't understand hockey anywhere near the level of CH and others in this thread. But if the Hawks had any kind of power play this year, they would have gone a lot farther. Plus their goal tending sucked. I have always stated that the PP misses Campbell, and they just can't enter the zone with who they have. I have no clue how getting a big defenseman and other tough guys is going to change the PP. As for goal tending, I can recall many games where we outshot the other team by up to 2-1, and yet we lost the game.

Reading Rozner, he agrees that the Hawks are way too soft. I am not certain. I don't mind the speed and skill game, but you have to score consistently on the PP and have much better goal tending. Those are my worries.

When it comes to the Bears, America is just a slobbering shitwagon. Every single opinion of his regarding this team is the most pristine of doomsday horseshit.

Hawks were not soft. They got in plenty of fights and WOULD have brought the forecheck if they weren't so paranoid about their play after the massive losing streak. That streak made that locker room eat itself from the inside out before it was oddly galvanized by the Toews injury.

The special teams must improve. If it doesn't, they'll be one and done again after another hair-ripping season of maddening hockey. I'm holding my breath on free agency/the draft/young gun development, but it's a dangerous game they're playing, and some of those valuable pieces like Sharp, Hammer, etc may have to be moved simply to send a message if it becomes clear early on that 2012 is a lost season.

Trae Young will be a bust. Book It!

They may have had some fights, but they were soft in much more important areas of the game, namely the ability to win board battles and clear people out in front of the net. Soft may not be the right word as opposed to saying small and weak.

When it comes to the Bears, America is just a slobbering shitwagon. Every single opinion of his regarding this team is the most pristine of doomsday horseshit.

I'm chasing down the validity of a rumor this morning involving the Hawks and the Montreal Canadiens, first reported yesterday by Eklund.

Independently, I have heard of discussions between the two teams going back a number of weeks, and specifically involving Patrick Kane. I would classify these as more vague rumors, coming from sources I don't know that well.

Last night, a friend tipped me on a rumored proposal that would have the Hawks sending Kane and Niklas Hjalmarsson to the Habs for Tomas Plekanec and PK Subban. And the Hawks are allegedly holding out for the Canadiens to add a high draft pick or two.

When I pressed him for more details and back story, it turned out this allegedly has as its source a fairly highly placed person in the Canadiens' organization. I am presently checking with some Hawk sources on this.

But there are some dots that would seem to connect here. Underlying the Montreal rumors I have heard has been a strong desire on the part of new Montreal GM Marc Bergevin to obtain Kane.

Also, Subban fits the Hawks blueline needs like a glove—arguably better than Ryan Suter because of Subban's power play skill and right handed shot.

Plekanec obviously slips perfectly into the second line center role, where he could be a very nice complement to Marian Hossa.

Montreal gets a creative, highlight reel offensive player in Kane and a solid second pairing d-man with some unfulfilled offensive upside in Hjalmarsson.

In my opinion, if valid, this is an example of a deal where the Hawks would be stupid not to to at least consider dealing Kane—whether you think they 'should' or should not' in the absence of an actual deal on the table.

And if Bergevin's interest in Kane is as legitimate as I hear, then there could be something to this story after all.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

When it comes to the Bears, America is just a slobbering shitwagon. Every single opinion of his regarding this team is the most pristine of doomsday horseshit.