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With Humber and Floyd struggling, the Sox need Quintana to continue to give them the kinds of starts he has turned in so far. When Danks returns to the rotation, I expect Quintana to retain his position in the rotation, with Humber going to AAA. It's better he goes to AAA than working out of the bullpen, because the club needs him to get his stuff together as a starter in case Peavy or anyone else goes down. They need him to be ready to go back in the rotation in such an event. Quintana may well turn out to be a key factor in 2012...

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I still think you are a terrible human being Steve, but I agree with this thought. Ive been thinking Quintana seems like a pretty important guy the last week or so.

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Humber isn't going to Charlotte. It will likely be Zach Stewart heading out when the decision is made to keep Quintana in the rotation, while Humber will move to the bullpen.

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Humber isn't going to Charlotte. It will likely be Zach Stewart heading out when the decision is made to keep Quintana in the rotation, while Humber will move to the bullpen.


That would be a mistake in my opinion. If they use Humber out of the bullpen, in the event of an injury, he will not be able to go back into the rotation and give Ventura the 5-6 innings you would expect from a starter right away. But if they send him down he can continue in a rotation and hopefully get straightened out. Then if there were an injury, he could be brought up and put back into the rotation immediately. You don't want to strain the bullpen with a guy who needs time to get stretched back out in order to get through 5-6 innings.

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I assume Danks will have at least one more minor league start so Humber probably has 2 chances to show his stuff. Dodger Stadium is a big park and he has been good on the road so I am expecting him to have good results Saturday. He had a stretch on Sunday where he struck out 5 straight and retired something like 10 in a row so there is something to work with.

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I think John Danks will get 1 more rehab start for Triple "A" Charlotte before he returns to the White Sox big club, likely during the Cubs' series at U.S. Cellular Field. As for Jose Quintana, he might end up going back to the minors to make room for John on the 25-man roster, which I think is a mistake considering there are 2 other Sox pitchers that are as bad at baseball as Gavin Floyd & Phil Humber in the starting rotation.

You might have heard of them. Zach Stewart, who pitches more like Zach Zaidman, and Will Ohman, who can't seem to get anyone out when RV gives the ball to him lately. I think one or both of these bum relievers should be sent packing when Johnny returns.


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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
If they use Humber out of the bullpen, in the event of an injury, he will not be able to go back into the rotation and give Ventura the 5-6 innings you would expect from a starter right away.



Come on. He could stretch back out in a week. This isn't some prized young arm that needs to be treated like a Kobe beef like the one on Sale.

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I assume Danks will have at least one more minor league start so Humber probably has 2 chances to show his stuff. Dodger Stadium is a big park and he has been good on the road so I am expecting him to have good results Saturday. He had a stretch on Sunday where he struck out 5 straight and retired something like 10 in a row so there is something to work with.



I believe the Dodgers lead the NL in runs scored and have the best record in the league...yet you think this is a team Humber will be able to get well on? I guess we'll see.....

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
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I assume Danks will have at least one more minor league start so Humber probably has 2 chances to show his stuff. Dodger Stadium is a big park and he has been good on the road so I am expecting him to have good results Saturday. He had a stretch on Sunday where he struck out 5 straight and retired something like 10 in a row so there is something to work with.



I believe the Dodgers lead the NL in runs scored and have the best record in the league...yet you think this is a team Humber will be able to get well on? I guess we'll see.....


You really enjoy being wrong. It took me all of ten seconds to see that the Dodgers are 6th in the NL in runs scored. Steve, stick to beating women and the elderly in bowling.

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So I was half correct. The Dodgers have the top record and I said I BELIEVE they were tops in runs scored, not that I knew it to be so. 6th in the league makes them amongst league leaders just the same so fuck off and go back to beating your meat.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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If they use Humber out of the bullpen, in the event of an injury, he will not be able to go back into the rotation and give Ventura the 5-6 innings you would expect from a starter right away.



Come on. He could stretch back out in a week. This isn't some prized young arm that needs to be treated like a Kobe beef like the one on Sale.



That depends on how long he's in the pen. If it's a month or more before he might be needed back in the rotation he would need to be stretched out.

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50% would be an F in school. Steve, just admit what we all know is the truth. You lied about your bowling prowess, because you didn't think anyone would know.

I BELIEVE that you are a liar, because I proved it.

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Humber is perfect example of how watered down this league currently is. Worst perfect game pitcher ever. Herm is the key to the season. If Sale and Peavy go down then its done unless Floyd grows a pair.
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50% would be an F in school. Steve, just admit what we all know is the truth. You lied about your bowling prowess, because you didn't think anyone would know.

I BELIEVE that you are a liar, because I proved it.



You are a fucking idiot. You have yet to substanciate any claims you have made that I lied about anything where Bowling is concerned and will never be able to, because I never did lie. The only claims I made were all true. Now go be a good boy and get your shine box. You have proved nothing other than the fact that you can make false accusations. Go back and find any post I made that is not true .....it isn't possible to find one because everything I posted was accurate, but go ahead and try.


Now unless you can actually come up with something (and you will not be able to-it doesn't exist), perhaps you can quit screwing up these threads up with your baseless accusations and stop acting like some bitch that got used and has turned into a psycho stalker. It's really gotten boring and stupid.

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Mr. Belvidere wrote:
Humber is perfect example of how watered down this league currently is. Worst perfect game pitcher ever. Herm is the key to the season. If Sale and Peavy go down then its done unless Floyd grows a pair.
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But if they can stay healthy and Quintana stays in the rotation along with a healthy Danks, things could work out. But with Peavy's history of DL visits over the past 5 years, Sale going well over any innings total he has experienced before and Quintana still not a known quantity, things are anything but certain. But it won't be boring anyway.

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Mr. Belvidere wrote:
Humber is perfect example of how watered down this league currently is. Worst perfect game pitcher ever.


Not even close, kid. You should look up Charlie Robertson.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
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50% would be an F in school. Steve, just admit what we all know is the truth. You lied about your bowling prowess, because you didn't think anyone would know.

I BELIEVE that you are a liar, because I proved it.



You are a fucking idiot. You have yet to substanciate any claims you have made that I lied about anything where Bowling is concerned and will never be able to, because I never did lie. The only claims I made were all true. Now go be a good boy and get your shine box. You have proved nothing other than the fact that you can make false accusations. Go back and find any post I made that is not true .....it isn't possible to find one because everything I posted was accurate, but go ahead and try.


Now unless you can actually come up with something (and you will not be able to-it doesn't exist), perhaps you can quit screwing up these threads up with your baseless accusations and stop acting like some bitch that got used and has turned into a psycho stalker. It's really gotten boring and stupid.


When you first bragged about your awesome bowling skills, I accused you of beating women and/or the elderly. You said I was ignorant. I found your league info, and I checked it almost every week. I have also sent this info to others. I won't post it for everyone, because your name and where you bowl are on it. Unless Janet, Amy, and Sally are men, you are bragging about beating women. What a fucking loser you are. Even when I have the truth in front of me, you still continue to lie.

Your use of the term "shine box" has been over used at this point. But then again, nobody expects any sort of creativity or deep thought from you, just based on your horrible phone calls to the sports radio stations.

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I made a rare typo once and Steve quickly corrected my spelling. Just saying...

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I am impressed by Chus dedication on this issue.

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I am impressed by Chus dedication on this issue.

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Jose Quintana starts the finale of the Dodgers' Interleague series Sunday afternoon vs. Chris Capuano in Los Angeles. All indications seem to point that Jose will get another start beyond this one Sunday. John Danks still isn't ready to return from his shoulder injury, according to the Sun-Times.

Danks' shoulder felt soreness playing catch before last night's finale of the Cardinals' series in St. Louis, and it appears unlikely that he'll be able to throw a side session prior to tonight's game at Dodger Stadium. It also doesn't look like he'll be back for the Cubs' series when the White Sox return home Monday.


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You have yet to substanciate any claims you have made that I lied about anything where Bowling is concerned and will never be able to, because I never did lie.
You did lie though, or at least you misrepresented yourself because you didn't do it in a sanctioned league. Calling Chus ignorant would be unfair, unless of course you were simply stating he was ignorant to you misrepresenting yourself as scoring that in an official capacity. For all we know, your score came from a bumper bowling league.

I went golfing on Saturday and for 18 holes I shot a 56.*

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
You have yet to substanciate any claims you have made that I lied about anything where Bowling is concerned and will never be able to, because I never did lie.
You did lie though, or at least you misrepresented yourself because you didn't do it in a sanctioned league. Calling Chus ignorant would be unfair, unless of course you were simply stating he was ignorant to you misrepresenting yourself as scoring that in an official capacity.



As I explained, the difference between a sanctioned league and unsanctioned league, is it doesn't pay fees to the USBC and therefore does not get any awards for accomplishments made in the league. Thats it, no difference in oil patterns or scoring (done by computers)or anthing else. Since the claim was to have garnered the highest average in the league I had bowled in, again...there is no misrepresentation. Chus TRIES to discredit the accomplishment by naming the only 3 women in our league by name amongst 40 bowlers :lol: :lol: . He talks about looking at my Bowling results every week this past season.....more than a bit stalkerish. Like probably a lot of people here, I looked at Bowling as a sport (hobby, whatever) as something you only do when you get older. Basketball, Baseball (and softball) Football and golf were things I chose to involve myself in. But 6 years ago, I got talked into joining a Bowling league by 3 guys I played Softball with, who were in that league. So as I have improved a bit and achieved a few things (winning the league 2 years in a row, having a 700 series-yes-this WAS in a sanctioned league) I posted about these things because it was exciting to have a week where I had averaged 235 and felt good aout having done that. But I never said I was a great bowler, only that I had some accomplishments from time to time that I chose to share. Oh, and Chus also cannot dispute the fact that I averaged 194 IN A SANCTIONED LEAGUE in 2009. He just likes to post the negative stuff. Just like when he chose to post below average games in a week where there was a 230's 240's game also bowled, but he chose to leave that game out of his post :lol: :lol: There was never any misrepresentation made by me, I leave that kinda crap to others. :wink:

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Jose Quintana starts the finale of the Dodgers' Interleague series Sunday afternoon vs. Chris Capuano in Los Angeles. All indications seem to point that Jose will get another start beyond this one Sunday. John Danks still isn't ready to return from his shoulder injury, according to the Sun-Times.

Danks' shoulder felt soreness playing catch before last night's finale of the Cardinals' series in St. Louis, and it appears unlikely that he'll be able to throw a side session prior to tonight's game at Dodger Stadium. It also doesn't look like he'll be back for the Cubs' series when the White Sox return home Monday.


No matter what happens with Danks' start, Quintana will remain in the rotation -and remain there as long as he continues to perform as he has anyway. Humber or Floyd will likely be removed from the rotation when Danks is able to rejoin the rotation.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
You have yet to substanciate any claims you have made that I lied about anything where Bowling is concerned and will never be able to, because I never did lie.
You did lie though, or at least you misrepresented yourself because you didn't do it in a sanctioned league. Calling Chus ignorant would be unfair, unless of course you were simply stating he was ignorant to you misrepresenting yourself as scoring that in an official capacity.



As I explained, the difference between a sanctioned league and unsanctioned league, is it doesn't pay fees to the USBC and therefore does not get any awards for accomplishments made in the league. Thats it, no difference in oil patterns or scoring (done by computers)or anthing else. Since the claim was to have garnered the highest average in the league I had bowled in, again...there is no misrepresentation. Chus TRIES to discredit the accomplishment by naming the only 3 women in our league by name amongst 40 bowlers :lol: :lol: . He talks about looking at my Bowling results every week this past season.....more than a bit stalkerish. Like probably a lot of people here, I looked at Bowling as a sport (hobby, whatever) as something you only do when you get older. Basketball, Baseball (and softball) Football and golf were things I chose to involve myself in. But 6 years ago, I got talked into joining a Bowling league by 3 guys I played Softball with, who were in that league. So as I have improved a bit and achieved a few things (winning the league 2 years in a row, having a 700 series-yes-this WAS in a sanctioned league) I posted about these things because it was exciting to have a week where I had averaged 235 and felt good aout having done that. But I never said I was a great bowler, only that I had some accomplishments from time to time that I chose to share. Oh, and Chus also cannot dispute the fact that I averaged 194 IN A SANCTIONED LEAGUE in 2009. He just likes to post the negative stuff. Just like when he chose to post below average games in a week where there was a 230's 240's game also bowled, but he chose to leave that game out of his post :lol: :lol: There was never any misrepresentation made by me, I leave that kinda crap to others. :wink:


You were thumping your chest about being an awesome bowler. You wanted people to think that you were a big shot, just like when you called the Score from Mac's basement. You tried to get on the muscle with Frank, and that backfired. Now, bowling is just something that you do as recreation. My, how your tune has changed.

Previously, I did give you credit for your 194, as I listed all of your averages, including many in the 170's. I have never lied or misled anybody about your scores. When you deserved credit, it was given to you. When it was time to call you out on bullshit, I did. Even at the bowling event, some people were joking that anybody that shot higher than 135, which you shot the previous week, had crossed the "Elmhurst Steve threshold". I corrected them, and said that was only one game, and that you averaged near 180. I have been more than fair with you, Steve.

Again, if 194 is the top average, then you are beating inferior competition. This was my original point two years ago. You disputed it, despite me having the evidence to back up my claim. This whole thing could have been avoided, had you not claimed that I was ignorant, and lying.

Thank you for finally admitting that you were bragging about beating women.

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You were thumping your chest about being an awesome bowler. You wanted people to think that you were a big shot, just like when you called the Score from Mac's basement. You tried to get on the muscle with Frank, and that backfired. [/quote]


Again, I challenge you to find a post where I claimed to be an "awesome bowler". I only claimed to have had an awesome (for me at least) week, when I had a 700 series and happily reported having won our league championships in 2010 and 2011 and having won the award for highest average in 2011 in the league I bowled in at Poplar Creek Bowl. Everything I claimed was factual and I don't feel like a 194 average isn't high enough to feel good about. I don't see anyone but you trying to belittle a 194 average. I don't know how anything with Frank backfired, he simply declined m y challenge and somehow you thought it appropriate to insert yourself into something you had no involvement in. As far as when I called from Mac's home, it was Mac that brought up that I was working at his home, not me. I never mention homes that I have worked in here or anywhere else. It's nobody's business.

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As I explained, the difference between a sanctioned league and unsanctioned league, is it doesn't pay fees to the USBC and therefore does not get any awards for accomplishments made in the league. Thats it, no difference in oil patterns or scoring (done by computers)or anthing else. Since the claim was to have garnered the highest average in the league I had bowled in, again...there is no misrepresentation. Chus TRIES to discredit the accomplishment by naming the only 3 women in our league by name amongst 40 bowlers :lol: :lol: . He talks about looking at my Bowling results every week this past season.....more than a bit stalkerish. Like probably a lot of people here, I looked at Bowling as a sport (hobby, whatever) as something you only do when you get older. Basketball, Baseball (and softball) Football and golf were things I chose to involve myself in. But 6 years ago, I got talked into joining a Bowling league by 3 guys I played Softball with, who were in that league. So as I have improved a bit and achieved a few things (winning the league 2 years in a row, having a 700 series-yes-this WAS in a sanctioned league) I posted about these things because it was exciting to have a week where I had averaged 235 and felt good aout having done that. But I never said I was a great bowler, only that I had some accomplishments from time to time that I chose to share. Oh, and Chus also cannot dispute the fact that I averaged 194 IN A SANCTIONED LEAGUE in 2009. He just likes to post the negative stuff. Just like when he chose to post below average games in a week where there was a 230's 240's game also bowled, but he chose to leave that game out of his post :lol: :lol: There was never any misrepresentation made by me, I leave that kinda crap to others. :wink:
What you did was like if I bragged I hit a hole in one in an unofficial round. For all we know, you did that average with bumpers or in a league that doubles your score in the 10th frame. That's the problem. That's why they have sanctioned and unsanctioned leagues. You clearly misrepresented yourself, and Chus was right to call you out on it. You left out some pretty important information.

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Steve and Frank have a special thing going on, and Chus just wanted to be a part of it. When someone typed "bowling" his ears perked-up like a left-behind mutt when mama's home!


Am I the only one who sees the hypocrisy in this post ?

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I assume Danks will have at least one more minor league start so Humber probably has 2 chances to show his stuff. Dodger Stadium is a big park and he has been good on the road so I am expecting him to have good results Saturday. He had a stretch on Sunday where he struck out 5 straight and retired something like 10 in a row so there is something to work with.



5 innings....gave up 4 runs on 9 hits. Not exactly a quality start....got the win though. Meanwhile Quintana goes 8 scoreless innings in his last start and can't get a win and Peavy goes the distance while giving up just 2 runs and gets a loss...crazy stuff.

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