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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale IP Watch
PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:27 am 
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For those who don't know, the USBC (US Bowling Congress) is the governing body for bowling leagues. As Chus said, a league that is not sanctioned or governed by USBC rules and regulations is basically not recognized by anybody outside of said league. People either bowl in these leagues for fun or because they aren't very good. Even Senior and kids leagues-- for the most part-- are sanctioned.

Leading the league with a 194 average in a non sanctioned league is the equivalent to hitting 12 HRs in spring training, or going 4-0 in the NFL preseason. They all mean jackshit.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale IP Watch
PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:30 am 
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
For those who don't know, the USBC (US Bowling Congress) is the governing body for bowling leagues. As Chus said, a league that is not sanctioned or governed by USBC rules and regulations is basically not recognized by anybody outside of said league. People either bowl in these leagues for fun or because they aren't very good. Even Senior and kids leagues-- for the most part-- are sanctioned.

Leading the league with a 194 average in a non sanctioned league is the equivalent to hitting 12 HRs in spring training, or going 4-0 in the NFL preseason. They all mean jackshit.

I don't know anything about bowling really but Chus makes it sounds more like going 2-2 in the preseason.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale IP Watch
PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:22 am 
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If it's not a sanctioned league, then it doesn't count. It's just like going up to the bowling alley for open bowling, and rolling a few games with your friends.

Another point that I have often made, which you conveniently ignore, is that leading a league with a 194 is nothing to brag about. You would be somewhere in the middle of our league, and it isn't even the highest competition level. If you bowled on a Friday league, you would have one of the lowest averages.



The lane conditions are the same in that league as they are for the leagues that bowl there that are USBC sanctioned leagues. The only difference is that the league doesnt pay fees to the USBC so it doesn't get any USBC awards. Doesn't change the bowling in any way and I don't give a shit if my 194 average wouldn't lead other leagues. I only claimed (accurately) to have led my league. Where I would rank in any other league is immaterial to the discussion and I don't give a shit what you think of that average. I feel content with it and how you feel about it couldn't possibly mean less to me. Now go get your shine box boy...


When you first bragged about having high average in your league at 194, I said that you were bowling against inferior competition, and thus not worthy of bragging, or you were lying altogether. You said I was ignorant, and didn't know what I was talking about. Then I found your USBC info. Your last three averages were 183, 176, and 182. Now, almost two years later, you claim that you led a non-sanctioned league with a 194, because there is no record of that. How convenient.

How can you say that you don't care where you would rank in other leagues? Your whole premise was bragging about where you ranked against others. And any time you want to stop saying that you don't care what I think, feel free. It's painfully obvious that you care. Face it Steve, I single-handedly brought down your web of lies. Because of it, everybody here now knows that you are a liar. That is why you disappeared for three months. You thought it would all be forgotten, but it hasn't been.

You felt like a real big shot trying to call out Frank. You called him a pussy when he didn't accept your challenge. Steve, my challenge to you still stands. You name the stakes. You name the format (one game or three games). You pick the house. Until you accept my challenge, then you are just a big pussy who lies, brags about beating women, and ducks challenges from a real man.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale IP Watch
PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:48 am 
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My faith in Steve's softball hall of fame induction is now shaken

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale IP Watch
PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:33 pm 
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I've always thought Steve was a liar.

And a lousy dancer.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale IP Watch
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:38 am 
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good dolphin wrote:
My faith in Steve's softball hall of fame induction is now shaken



Well, there will be an exhibition game played in Forest Park on July 22nd for members of the Hall of Fame and you are more than welcome to show up to see me introduced and play in the game.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale IP Watch
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:55 am 
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Chus wrote:
Elmhurst Steve wrote:
Chus wrote:
If it's not a sanctioned league, then it doesn't count. It's just like going up to the bowling alley for open bowling, and rolling a few games with your friends.

Another point that I have often made, which you conveniently ignore, is that leading a league with a 194 is nothing to brag about. You would be somewhere in the middle of our league, and it isn't even the highest competition level. If you bowled on a Friday league, you would have one of the lowest averages.



The lane conditions are the same in that league as they are for the leagues that bowl there that are USBC sanctioned leagues. The only difference is that the league doesnt pay fees to the USBC so it doesn't get any USBC awards. Doesn't change the bowling in any way and I don't give a shit if my 194 average wouldn't lead other leagues. I only claimed (accurately) to have led my league. Where I would rank in any other league is immaterial to the discussion and I don't give a shit what you think of that average. I feel content with it and how you feel about it couldn't possibly mean less to me. Now go get your shine box boy...


When you first bragged about having high average in your league at 194, I said that you were bowling against inferior competition, and thus not worthy of bragging, or you were lying altogether. You said I was ignorant, and didn't know what I was talking about. Then I found your USBC info. Your last three averages were 183, 176, and 182. Now, almost two years later, you claim that you led a non-sanctioned league with a 194, because there is no record of that. How convenient.

How can you say that you don't care where you would rank in other leagues? Your whole premise was bragging about where you ranked against others. And any time you want to stop saying that you don't care what I think, feel free. It's painfully obvious that you care. Face it Steve, I single-handedly brought down your web of lies. Because of it, everybody here now knows that you are a liar. That is why you disappeared for three months. You thought it would all be forgotten, but it hasn't been.

You felt like a real big shot trying to call out Frank. You called him a pussy when he didn't accept your challenge. Steve, my challenge to you still stands. You name the stakes. You name the format (one game or three games). You pick the house. Until you accept my challenge, then you are just a big pussy who lies, brags about beating women, and ducks challenges from a real man.



You can look up the averages in that non-sanctioned league very easily, by going to Poplar Creek bowl and clicking on leagues and then going to that league (information I supplied in that post) I'm sure the averages are still up to verify. It's also an average I had previously in 2009 which you conveniently choose not to post here (I guess it's not working for your argument) in a sanctioned league.
I chose not to post here for a while in the winter because I felt I was wasting too much time on the site and it was not Baseball season. That's the time of year I post far more often. You have yet to bring down any web of lies, because there was never one to be brought down. If I bowled in a less competitive league than some, it doesn't change that my team won it's league title in 2010 and 2011 or that I reached a few accomplishments (700 series amongst them-IN A SANCTIONED LEAGUE). Those things are fact. I called out Frank to challenge him because I thought it was something I would enjoy doing, if he accepted the challenge. There was a time that I really detested Frank. But I really don't feel that way anymore. He's a huge Sox fan and I am a huge Cub fan. That rivalry fueled a lot of the resentment. Stupid stuff. But you Chus....you never have mattered to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale IP Watch
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:57 am 
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I'm always a big fan of new intellectual property, but I'm not sure what Chris Sale is going to come up with...


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale IP Watch
PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:14 am 
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Sale has had his next start bumped back to Friday.

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