Back to the Sox attendance thing:

Many of the "reasons" can be discredited, IMO,such as:

- Nothing else to do around the stadium except for tailgating: this is true of many stadiums. I can only speak personally of a few stadiums, but personal experience showed me that there is nothing around Cincinnati, Milwaukee, Detroit, or Atlanta either. I assume this true elsewhere also.

- More of a blue collar fan base than the other side of town: This would be hard to measure, but Pittsburgh, Detroit, and other teams have just as many if not more "blue collar" fans. There are also blue collar fans in other sports, why would this be an exclusive problem for one baseball team?

- The economic downturn has affected ticket sales: This is a national problem. This would not affect the Sox anymore than any other team.

The local media coverage of games been identical for many years now. WGN is not a reason for a lack of exposure for the Sox vs the Cubs, as has been used in the past. Both teams have games on 3 networks. The Cell may not be one baseball's premier venues, but it's not one of the bottom 1/3 or 1/10, so that shouldn't matter that much either.



The only legit reason that I can honestly come up with as to why the attendance is always lagging for the Sox, year after year:
There just aren't that many Sox fans out there in the world. Period. It's not that 50% of the people in the area aren't buying tickets, there just aren't enough people out there to buy the tickets. They buy them proportionately, that just happen to equate to 20k per game. Or less.

The Sox had almost 3 million sold in 2006. They are now about about 2 million.

I think you are incorrect that it lags year after year. It has since then.

The Sox had almost 3 million sold in 2006. They are now about about 2 million.

I think you are incorrect that it lags year after year. It has since then.

Im pretty hammered right now.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

[b]There just aren't that many Sox fans out there in the world.

05: 17th This is amazing. They were in 1st place every month of the season that year.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

There is a difference of 1 million tickets sold from 2005 to now. Those people went somewhere or people started going to less games.

If there were simply just not that many White Sox fans how could they do 3 million all of a sudden?

Les Grobstein's huge hog is proof that God has a sense of humor, isn't it?

There is a difference of 1 million tickets sold from 2005 to now. Those people went somewhere or people started going to less games.

If there were simply just not that many White Sox fans how could they do 3 million all of a sudden?

Im pretty hammered right now.

Except it was bad before that too:

(Rank in MLB)
2001: 26th
02: 23rd
03: 21st
04: 21st
05: 17th This is amazing. They were in 1st place every month of the season that year.
06: 9th (2.96M)
07: 15th
08: 16th
10: 17th
11: 21st
12: 27th


ESPN's site doesn't go back farther than that.

Les Grobstein's huge hog is proof that God has a sense of humor, isn't it?

Im pretty hammered right now.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Im pretty hammered right now.

Don't all teams get a WS bump the following year?

What are the reasons then?
You're saying the common belief is indeed true: Sox fans choose not to buy tickets/attend games?
I'm saying that Sox fans probably buy them in about the same rate as other teams, there just aren't that many of them.

Im pretty hammered right now.

Osteen probably could have filled Soldier Field...at least twice. That is not an indictment on White Sox fans

Don't all teams get a WS bump the following year?

What are the reasons then?
You're saying the common belief is indeed true: Sox fans choose not to buy tickets/attend games?
I'm saying that Sox fans probably buy them in about the same rate as other teams, there just aren't that many of them.

Im pretty hammered right now.

Let me try again:
My point isn't that Sox fans choose to stay away from the stadium more than other fans. There just aren't that many Sox fans out there at all.
Small. Fan. Base.

Although, I'd love to hear how the economic downturn affected the Sox more than other baseball teams.

Im pretty hammered right now.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

Oakland and Tampa.

Les Grobstein's huge hog is proof that God has a sense of humor, isn't it?

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

I'm not talking about one season. I'm talking about the general trend of Sox attendance before, during, and after the economic collapse.

They are down about 1,800 a game this year. I would think that the Cubs series would help raise it but that may not help this year. I guess Sox fans haven't bought in. I predict that if the Sox are in first place in August that attendance catches up especially against other teams from the division.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

LaHair playing RF tonight... the countdown to Rizzo has begun.

Good point.

Which market does Kenny work in again?

Let me try again:
My point isn't that Sox fans choose to stay away from the stadium more than other fans. There just aren't that many Sox fans out there at all.
Small. Fan. Base.