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 Post subject: Re: Sandusky Jury
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:28 pm 
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There's no easy way of defending a person who is accused, and widely believed, of being a serial molester. And a critical component was going to be the credibility of the victims. There's positively no way to avoid that.


Really? Somebody who was actually of the belief that they have a real beef for an appeal wouldn't possibly stoop to such hackey bullshit as he did. Again, it's not the theme, it's the presentation.

Anyway, the point is that this happened:

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 Post subject: Re: Sandusky Jury
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:33 pm 
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There's no easy way of defending a person who is accused, and widely believed, of being a serial molester. And a critical component was going to be the credibility of the victims. There's positively no way to avoid that.


Really? Somebody who was actually of the belief that they have a real beef for an appeal wouldn't possibly stoop to such hackey bullshit as he did. Again, it's not the theme, it's the presentation.

Anyway, the point is that this happened:

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He's a really bad attorney. He's not some monster. And if you wanted to see Sandusky put away forever, being defending by the worst attorney in Pennsylvania is mostly a win.

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 Post subject: Re: Sandusky Jury
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If I were to quote and reply once more, would you change the focal point of your argument yet again?

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 Post subject: Re: Sandusky Jury
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:39 pm 
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If I were to quote and reply once more, would you change the focal point of your argument yet again?

I've said the following:

1.) He's a bad attorney.
2.) He's not a bad attorney because he had to go after the credibility of the victims. He had to do that no matter what. You might object to the manner in which he did that, but there's no good manner in which to do it.
3.) If you hate Sandusky, which I'd imagine everyone does, then throw him a parade for his crappiness.

If I've been inconsistent, it's the beer. But I don't think I have.

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 Post subject: Re: Sandusky Jury
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:55 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Sandusky Jury
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:30 am 
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The testimonial evidence was so strong and extensive, that I don't see how anyone ever doubted that he would be convicted on the vast majority of the counts charged. But if a shoutout is called for in this case, I think it should go to the judge. He did a great job in keeping things moving at a wonderfully fast pace. Kudos to the judge.

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 Post subject: Re: Sandusky Jury
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:10 pm 
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If I were to quote and reply once more, would you change the focal point of your argument yet again?

I've said the following:

1.) He's a bad attorney.
2.) He's not a bad attorney because he had to go after the credibility of the victims. He had to do that no matter what. You might object to the manner in which he did that, but there's no good manner in which to do it.
3.) If you hate Sandusky, which I'd imagine everyone does, then throw him a parade for his crappiness.

If I've been inconsistent, it's the beer. But I don't think I have.

Amendola is going to defend himself with the I didn't have time argument. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Here is the link with Amendola quotes. http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index. ... _trie.html
There are a couple of other links you can work through that indicate he was concerned about being unprepared and the judge would not accept his argument. I don't think this angle should take away from the fact Amendola performed poorly. He probably could have garnered an extension of some sort if he presented a solid argument, which he probably didn't do.


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 Post subject: Re: Sandusky Jury
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:00 pm 
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He was fucking heckled


that's what happens when you let jets fans in the courtoom.


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 Post subject: Re: Sandusky Jury
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:08 pm 
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No napalm Pennsylvania... Bernsie you are a fucking idiot. People are peopl and know right from wrong asshole. Happy now? Can I relax my family from the napalm blast? Dick.

Nobody acted like bigger jackass, media wise, than Dan Bernstein.
What a fucking joke....blasted an entire State... he must have assumed the jury was going to be empaneled with Penn State football season ticket holders and Boosters, all of whom were going to be pedophiles.

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 Post subject: Re: Sandusky Jury
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:11 pm 
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Irish Boy wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
If I were to quote and reply once more, would you change the focal point of your argument yet again?

I've said the following:

1.) He's a bad attorney.
2.) He's not a bad attorney because he had to go after the credibility of the victims. He had to do that no matter what. You might object to the manner in which he did that, but there's no good manner in which to do it.
3.) If you hate Sandusky, which I'd imagine everyone does, then throw him a parade for his crappiness.

If I've been inconsistent, it's the beer. But I don't think I have.

Amendola is going to defend himself with the I didn't have time argument. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Here is the link with Amendola quotes. http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index. ... _trie.html
There are a couple of other links you can work through that indicate he was concerned about being unprepared and the judge would not accept his argument. I don't think this angle should take away from the fact Amendola performed poorly. He probably could have garnered an extension of some sort if he presented a solid argument, which he probably didn't do.

I have practiced criminal law for 30 years.....This guy is only as good as his facts....still, he did some remarkably bizarre things. Why did he make some sort of speech after the verdict? Sometimes you shut your fucking mouth!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Sandusky Jury
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:14 pm 
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This crowd outside the courthouse is outstanding.

Heckling Amendola and cheering for the prosecution.

Why would you heckle his attorney? He didn't even do a decent job defending him, but if he did, that's his job. It's how we feel confident the system works. Frankly, I'm a little uncomfortable he had that dope representing him. If you wanted blood, you couldn't have done better than that rube.


He was fucking heckled when he introduced completely unrelated issues (e.g., the very occasional execution of apparently innocent people). He could've made his "my guy was railroaded" pitch in a number of ways, all of them better than that piss-poor, boo-hoo option.


He should have limited his comments to an appeal will be filed.

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 Post subject: Re: Sandusky Jury
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He was fucking heckled


that's what happens when you let jets fans in the courtoom.



Mother fucker :cry:

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