I'm bored and don't feel like working. Also, a thought I had in today's Mac show thread got me thinking.

What do I think about both stations "personalities"?

Feel free to add your own thoughts in as well:

ESPN radio:
Mike and Mike: garbage. Pure Bristol garbage. Greenburg is just another Long Island, Jets loving fuck. Golic isn't funny...his brother Bob was the real talent in the family.

SWaddle: Don't listen to it because of Waddle. He is bland and terrible. I do like Silverman, though.

The Afternoon Salon: Camen is ok as a sideman. Not good driving the show. Jurko is hilarious. Harry sucks and should be fired.

I honestly have no idea what else is on this station. I'm guessing it's more national Bristol bullshit.

The Score:

M & H: keep it. Mulligan sucks. Hanley is funny. Grote is solid on updates.

MacSpiegel: I listen everyday because it's on. I like both guys...just not always together. Mac does seem reenergized since his trip through rehab, and that has been nice. It's definitely better than it was 2 years ago.

B&B: Best. Show. Ever.

LawHolmes: Love Hater Wednesday. Love Ask Herb. Laurence is alright by me.

Hit & Run: Good stuff. Spiegel and Rozner are really good together.

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I was as big of as fan of Waddle & Silvy as you could find. Then, the more I listened to the Score (mainly B&B), the more I realized how Disneyish W&S are. Danny Mac returned to 670, which brought my ears there. I'll listen to W&S if Mac or Spiegs are off, though. Big fan of B&B, obviously. LoHo is good in small doses as a solo act. He's too try-to-pleasey as a co-host. M&H blows. Afternoon Saloon: see M&H. If I'm out and about Sunday mornings, I give Hit & Run a whirl.

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ESPN: No

M&H: No

Danny Mac Show: Good, when Spiegel isn't there.

B&B: Awesome when they don't put on the "super serious" hat for the whole time.

Holmes: Good show for the time of day.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

No. No he's not.

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"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." ~ H.L. Mencken

Holmes is now listenable in his time slot.

Not that I would listen, but you know, if I was in traction and couldn't watch any TV, I might tune in.

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The only time my dial goes anywhere near ESPN 1000 is when Hood is on.

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"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." ~ H.L. Mencken

I'm pretty sure I have heard you call in to his show before.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Happy to see the board finally coming around on Laurence.

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Team Cutler.

M&M - not terrible like everyone says. Easily better than M&H. I usually have them on tv while I'm getting up and started in the morning. Obviously not for you if you are only interested in local sports.

W&S - haven't listened in years. Does Silvy still come off as a whiny bitch?

Afternoon Saloon - I used to like Carmen alot. This show sucks lately though.

M&H - quite possibly the worst sports radio show I've ever spent more than 20 minutes listening to.

Danny Mac show - Spiegel is annoying. Mac has been great lately. This show is usually good.

B&B - this show is usually boring as hell or pretty damn funny. I rarely feel like its in between. Lately it's been much more bore than good.

Laurence Holmes has the worst radio voice in the city. I don't know how anyone gets beyond that to actually listening to what he says.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Harry has a much worse voice.

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I don't think so. 1A and 1B at the least.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I can put up with M&M better than M&H. Mac told me to PTFB, and I have not listened to one second of his show since, so, S&W are on the mornings. It's OK, sometimes predictable. I cannot stand to listen to B&B, no matter how much you guys rave about it- I just get irritated by one or both of them after about a minute. I switch to music or Dave Ramsey until one of the ball games comes on. If none of the team I can follow is on, well, it's House of Hair time, I guess....

M&M: Great during football season and when the meatballs are in full force on M&H.
M&H: I still listen. I like them, I hate them.
W&S: If I'm in the work truck I listen. Sucks that there isn't a stream through winamp anymore.
M&S: I listen to at least half of the show everyday. Today I caught most of it.
CJH: From time to time. Sox games, during Football season.
B&B: Daily.

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B&B is becoming to the Penn State scandal what Nancy Grace was to the Duke lacrosse thing...

Bad analogy, Duke players were innocent, Sanduskey and all others are going to hell.

Mully & Hanley- Never listened to them. But Mully looks like Frankenstein's Monster.
DaMaNaaaa & MeatPants- I haven't heard too much of this, but it isn't bad.
B&B- Bernstein makes this show unlistenable. I can only get through an hour or so before I have to PTFB.

Mike & Mike- They're on the alarm when I wake up. After the first update, they are turned off. I think they're okay, but Golic is a poor man's Jurko, just not as entertaining. Greenie is a'ight, but he lays on the schtick a little too much. A poor man's Silvy.
Silvy & Waddle- The best sports talk show not featuring Jim Rome. Waddle is a wet blanket, but not unlikable.
CJH- Harry needs to go. Carm should be w/ Silvy, Jurko should be on the Score w/ Mac.

M&M: I don't ever listen.
M&H: I usually don't listen, but I think they have excellent interviews.
W&S: Silverman is a little too girly for me and Waddle is kind of vanilla. I'll listen if that's all I have available.
M&S: Spiegel tries too hard sometimes and Danny Mac is really into fishing and fake gay man love.
CJH: Jurko is kind of funny come to think of it. Hard to tell when he's actually being serious. Carmen is tolerable. Harry is boring and squirms like a girl when Jurko makes fun of him.
B&B: The show is entertaining when it's not Penn State must die all the time. I like Goff better as Abbatacola sounds like Bernstein no. 2 sometimes. Terry gets way too into fake guy stuff and the stupid by crackie jokes. It's just not that funny.
LoHo: He's alright in small doses. Not good enough for a daytime slot, but good enough not to get fired.

You forgot Scott Van Pelt. I actually like his show and think the Ryan guy whose parents can't spell is a good co-host.

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I wasn't comparing their guilt. Just the absurd level covErage both are giving irrespective topics.

Brian Hanley is about as funny as Milt Rosenberg.

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Since my schedule's a bit different I normally never listen to much of MH or McNiel/Speigs since I'm asleep, so here's my 2 cents:

Regarding all of ESPN: Just no. It all blows. I'd listen to Hood if he was Chicago-centric again, but no desire to hear national sports talk on any level.

Grobber: it's passable, inoffensive/uninteresting overnight sports talk. The callers are often dull and repetitive, Les is clearly bored most of the time, and Adam Harris is awkward, as only Adam can be.

MH/McN-Speigs: The limited times I do catch MH it's the drab morning review with a lot of the horribly stupid humor that panders to the lowest denominator of fan (ie: Hex Grossman, etc). McNeil is ok from time to time. He just sorta rants.

B/B: As others have said, it's best when not taking itself seriously, but it seems that it's become a serious show, or at least they want it to be. I dunno, it's been talked to death.

I don't catch a lot of LoHo, but he's better as a reporter than a host, which isn't saying much. He stalled out years ago and can't seem to be more than what he is.

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mike and mike: i basically don't listen... it's schtick coma and so cutesy and as was accurately described in the OP: bristol. it's a brand. i used to like the stone cold lead pipe locks back in the mid-00s when i'd take the bus to work on friday mornings... but it's mindless chatter and their whole comedy act just falls thin on me. i'll only stay on and listen if there's a baseball expert or something i like.

mully and hanley: a bit too.... hokey for me? some of the puns that made up the hanley scale are egregious.... i mean if i'm outside with a coffee and a donut and a cigarette and my laptop doing my fantasy baseball lineups i'll kick it on the radio and listen for a bit.... but it's nothing like OMFG I GOTTA HEAR WHAT MULLY AND HANLEY THINK. maybe occasionally after a bears game, but basically that's more ob&doug/b&b territory for me

silvy and waddle: you know, i miss the carmen and silvy show. i used to hear it on the bus back from work circa ~03-04 and it seemed like they were a couple of friends doing a fun radio show. genetic tinkering = OMFG WE NEED TO GIVE A MAN WHO HAS LEARNED AT THE TEAT OF FATHER OF THE YEAR(TM) DAVID KAPLAN SOMEONE WHO CAN DRIVE A SHOW!!!! yeah i'm in the can't stand waddle crowd. he's got that whole "i am the idyllic yuppie archetype that you all wish you could be" aura that david kaplan has in spades, and well, that whole condescending WGN vibe carries over and it's just like.... ok. honestly it's hard to listen, i mean, i like silvy he's a funky little dude but his voice makes me wanna blow my nose so when i'm trying to fight off the plague of waddle he doesn't exactly make it as aurally-aesthetically pleasing as possible. like i said, silvy was in his element with carmen and they vibed well and worked it out, and while i suppose silvy's such a genuinely affable guy that he gets along and has chemistry with anyone, you can tell that he and carmen would go out for beers and whatnot whereas waddle... you know, * whip cracking sound * he's in the running for FATHER OF THE YEAR(tm) and OH BOY DON'T WE KNOW IT.

mac and spiegel: i've always liked mac's contribution to chicago sports talk radio. again i'll always preface this by saying i know i'm not his target demo so some of the middle-aged man/prostate talk is PTFB but i'll pop back. speagol grows on you over time and i think he genuinely wants to do a good quality show and puts in the work to do it.... i personally like him better on hit and ralph, but hey, that's just the baseball guy in me. when the show first started and i first heard spiegel i was like "wow, they gave mac a bernstein" but as time goes on while you can see the obvious parallels that come from being a critically-thinking sports fan, he does his thing and the show works. as it stands it's a pretty good hybrid of mac's "pull up a stool at my bar" cool-bartender-vibe and spiegel's wacky world of sports information, and like i said, this show is vastly preferable to silvy and waddle.

scott van pelt: shaved head white guys who have an ego like they know everything and i'm a pissant in comparison generally don't work for me, so like, i don't even bother. especially cuz the score wisely moved b&b to 1pm to keep the more fickle amongst us from popping around cuz...

boers and bernstein: appointment radio for like, what, ~10+ years? i remember working bullshit data entry jobs when they were on from 8-12, or 10-2, and later 2-6, and now 1-6. i won't go on carrying the flag for the b&b als, but it's a great show. to mirror the sentiments before, i'm quicker to jump ship to thom hartmann (my favorite political radio show by a rather wide margin) when they're on the soapbox about child rape or PTC/concussions/etc --- however, it works out brilliantly that after the :30 mark that you can basically pop between b&b and hartmann and their commercial breaks sync up so you can generally avoid commercials while listening to most of both shows. great trick.

laurence: some of the minutiae gets to me... some of his vocal inflections, his cadences... the deliberate pauses. i mean i see the pimp player ladies' man thing as the comedy bit it un/intentionally is, and it's kind of awwwww laurence when he's gotta tell us about some fine actress he just saw on tv. i mean there's a genuine joy and elation to him when he thinks he's giving us the hookup on some beauty on tv that we might eventually rub one out to; i think when he leaves the studio he can go look in the mirror and be like "dammit, i helped!" today. THE PEOPLE'S HOUR COLON WE DO WHAT WE WANT has been suffering from a lack of HARD BAKE lately, but of course hater wednesday and ask herb are his things. and for the love of god laurence, you need to embrace the stuff that people kid you about.... has redman taught you nothing with his brilliant song i'll bee dat?!?! BRING BACK SHAKE THAT!!!!! EVEN FOR A WEEK!!! see like, once you heard that drop punctuated by shake that and the cheesy techno hit, seriously, no matter where i was i'd do a big goofy mocking dance. i'd fistpump like a champ and regale someone on the train about my GTL lifestyle. it was a total farce..... but that's what made it beautiful. why do you think all of us still call laurence SHAKE THAT?!?!!? there's no such thing as bad publicity laurence, and i wish if even for one very special night you'd just turn back the clock and OWN THAT FUCKING MANTRA. feel THE PULSE of your most hardcore fans and TAKE A HIT OFF OF MICHAEL PHELPS' BONG and put on SHAKE THAT. because it's not just a people's hour.... it's a movement.

les: he's the fucking dude. obviously i've spoke of how i've had a chance to bullshit with him off-air over the years, and like, see.... les gets his balls broken plenty by other staffers... but it's because you're damn right he's weird in comparison to them. look at every other host at the station... they're not at as many games as les is... they're not doing broadcasting for arena league in their spare time. they don't have stories about the pictures they got with expos personnel calling games in 03/04.... cuz if you really think about it, the two guys at the score who truly "live that life" in terms of sports journalism/broadcasting are les and schuster. go figure that schuster is typically awesome whenever he gets a little fill-in spot... his bulls draft night broadcast was awesome. who knew that aggrey sam was that cool? i just thought he was some dude with a fucked up name. so like, i get why to other people who live more normal domesticated lives les is an oddball... he's a sports encyclopedia and he's got so many stories and so many facts... i mean, with all due respect to bernstein les is easily the smartest guy at the station i mean just his mental capacity to make so many tangential connections with sports is astounding.... and he's always down to bullshit and talk sports and let people speak their piece.... but that's why he rules the overnights. you can't do that during a highly-financed (in terms of ad rates) tighter-programmed morning drive midday or afternoon show... but in the middle of hte night you can just kind of let it rip, toss out a few signature segments, and go to town. it's sports catharsis, and as someone who considers himself a pretty damn intelligent sports fan who brings thoughts to the table, i love the way you're able to call him up at 3:45am and get some factoids or stories that just make you go "damn." it's the essence of sports talk radio, i have no idea when this man sleeps... or if he does. he's possibly a cyborg, but like, i mean... in my ideal world this kind of show would be on during the normal operating hours, but i totally understand the need to have a more host/personality-driven show with less audience interaction during the primetime hours, whereas les' show is antithetical as it's like 90% caller-driven. take mac/spiegs and b&b for example... you get mac as the driver/personality and spiegel as the straightman, much like on b&b terry is the comedic relief to bernstein's straightman..... on les' show the caller is the comic relief/driver/personality and he's the straightman to it. he kind of presides over it and just supplants you with information and stories. it's cool, and like i said in my ideal world this is the essence of what sports talk radio is, but i totally understand why things are the way they are and i'm good with it.

others:

abbatacola: especially solo, i just get this vibe like he's on a quest to tell us what to think and inform the stupid and he's got a condescending vibe.... he's better with a partner, as i seem to remember the old last call shows being pretty good (grandma trivia!) but when he's got a solo evening slot or something, i just can't shake this vibe where it's like matt's trying to prove himself to either us the listeners or his bosses because there's just this edge i can't shake... and it's nothing personal with matt he seems like a good enough dude he doesn't strike me as a giant shithead when you run into him at a remote, it's like blink 182, that's just the impression that i get.

goff: as i've said before, a lot of his solo endeavors seem to be like he's reading out of the book SPORTS RADIO TALK FOR DUMMIES as he's trying all of the cliches and conventions and stopping short of saying [TOPIC] LIGHT 'EM UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sometimes, but he works best in a partnership. i liked the shows he did with bowen and i hoped to hear more of that, but alas, it was not meant to be. maybe during football season because i'm guessing buffone-lite (vocally speaking) might not be an OMFG BASEBALL!!!!! maven, but the 1/2 shows i heard goff and bowen do were great. goff needs an ex-athlete or someone who's "played the game" or whatever it is that jason works hard to brand himself at doing off-air (ergo why he's blocking people like me and rpb for DARING to criticize him on twitter, because it's obvious that he's trying to build a goff ALS and anyone who doesn't think happy thoughts...



randazzo: the best solo spot/fill-in host they've got. the dude handles his biz and manages to get clever texts on the air as opposed to the meatbally schtick for the morning shows and b&b's dichotemy of pure stupidity/"meatball" and bernsie's smart friends / other pre-approved ALS guys. last time i heard him he and herb lawrence (another guy who i'd love to hear get a shot to host some shows) had a good off-the-cuff segment where they were talking about the miami face eater and all that, and basically, randazzo's the one guy lurking in the background who's definitely going to go national in some capacity within a few years, that is, if he doesn't end up announcing for a MLB team. dude's game is sewn.

and like i said before but i'll repeat here, even tho the nature of his intrepid reporter thing means he can't do it much, schuster is typically great whenever he does a show. like les he knows his shit, but he's got a more dry/acerbic/self-depricating sense of humor about him that works for me so if i hear schuster doing a show i'll typically scoot over there for awhile.

rosenbloom/grote: that show grows on you. shit, i'll listen to rosenbloom and whoever at 7am today... he works. maybe he's best in small doses? i dunno. being totally honest, i'd listen a lot more 5-9am if rosenbloom was driving the show. some of the saturday morning bits are getting a bit forced down our throats radio (WB? sucky radio... the pot smoking, etc) but typically rosenbloom is quality filling in for whoever, and on saturday mornings if i'm not passed out drunk (i don't smoke weed anymore, lamentably) i'll pop on the radio while i have my coffee/donut/cigarette/morning-constitution/box-scores.

oh yeah, and i'd be remiss if i didn't say that i actually like it when hub does spot shows during football season on the weeknights. he's always prepared and you can tell that no matter your take on him re: any pro/negative bears bias, the guy's a pretty cool dude and he also knows his shit. i like his veritably-contrarian views on the bears because my general life philosophy is to expect the worst and be surprised by the best, and hub definitely outlines the potential perils of what the bears are doing.... he's just got a good vibe going when he's hosting a show, it flows nicely, and hey hearing him talk about hip hop and/or basketball is humorous. can't lie. i once texted in that it should be pro football weekly and basketball news AND hip hop news. i'd love to hear hub's crack staff break down the latest drake beef with some other rapper he's probably..... you know what? i want to sell myself as a product sometime soon/ish so yeah. lol.

anyways, i typed too much i talked too much i ate an oreo donut i swigged my coffee, but what the fuck i couldn't sleep tonight so i got my fix of phonecalls/les/csfmb so i'm good. happy 4th y'all

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What's an Oreo donut and where do you get one?

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Don't take it personally.

dunkin donuts man. they've got two types... there's a standard donut (non-cake/compressed, the lighter style) with little crumbs and white icing, and then there's the boston kreme knockoffs with some whipped creme as opposed to custard and the oreo cookie crumbs on top. that's the one you want to go for.

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Alright. I'll check it out. If you're ever at the Dunkin Donuts on Touhy across the street from Jack's you may notice that a section of the fence that separates it from the synagogue has been replaced. That's because one of my knucklehead friends backed his fucking Chevy Beretta through it.

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Mully-D-
Hanley- D+
Boers-B
Bernstein-B
Laurence-B+
Rosenbloom-A-
Grote-C+
Connor-A-
Joe O.- F
Les-C+
Goff-B-
Drinky-B-

Milt has a certain dry sophisticated sense of humor. You're talking about a guy with a Ph.D. in his 80s.

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To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

You forgot about Barry Rozner.

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To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

ESPN has boring, crappy personaltys, and lousy shows.

Score does not.

Don't consume sports radio the same way I did 5 to 10 years ago... but still listen semi regularly.

B&B - Listen on most days driving home from work. Bernstein is a trolling, obsessive compulsive dick. When you agree with him, he's great, and when you disagree with him, you want to punch him in the face. Most of the time, I'm interested in their discussion, and the show usually is good for several laughs. It's a weird show, and it conquers weird just right. I like it.

Mac and Speigs - don't usually listen too much these days. I could listen while at work, but I haven't made the effort to stream anything during my work day. Always liked Mac. The little I've heard, during lunch breaks, it seems Mac is more energized. The pairing doesn't bother me.

Mully & Hanley - OK sports discussion here and there. Some of their attempts at jokes or one-liners make me cringe, especially when they have a guest on who doesn't get their schtick. Show is obviously better during football season.

Mike & Mike - agreed on the vanilla references. Boring as show when discussing MLB, NBA, etc. One of the best shows to break down the NFL each Monday morning.

LoHo - depends on who he is trying to emulate. The Bernstein wannabe act is awful... the "tonight I'm going to try and be a black guy" routine is lame. LoHo is a nerdy black white dude.... nothing wrong with that. That is when he is at his best.

Jason Goff - great stuff, when bantering with B&B, or doing his own show. Probably better with a partner though.

W&S - never really got into this show, but I haven't given them a honest listen in about 3 years now. My ESPN Radio stream doesn't work at the office, so that is partially why. Used to love the old Silvy & Carmen show though. I wish Silvy well.

CJH - occasionally listen on the way home from work, but I usually don't think to turn them on. Seems just OK. Usually turn on AM 1000 if B&B, Roe Conn or Garry Meier are all at commercial or news.

Hit & Run - awesome show. Love it. Can't get any better on Sunday mornings.

Rosenbloom and Grote - love this show... at least on Saturday mornings. I always think this would be a perfect morning show during the week.

Talkin' Baseball - I always seem to turn this show on during one of their lame game segments. Haven't heard Bruce and Fred in a while, but I do like Hit and Run far better.

J Hood - a decent listen. I've heard him recently with Nick Friedell. The old J Hood Shows back on the Score was when he was at his best. He is tamer now, as far as his mood goes (doesn't pick on callers the way he did while at The Score), but he doesn't seem to be as fun. I'd need to listen to him more consistently to have a fairer observation.

Les - not usually up when he is on. When I do listen to him, he is great.