Im sure most people have read about Daniel Tosh's incident at the Laugh Factory. Basically he was getting heckled, told the woman heckler(she may or may not have even been the heckler, depending on who you believe) "Wouldn't it be funny if five guys raped you? I mean like right now?" ..... And the Internet proceeded to blow up.
I read a terribly stupid article on Huff Post by Meaghan OKeefe. She basically said its a fact that Tosh thinks the act of rape itself is funny because he said that. She also said its a fact that a large number of people agree with him that the act of raping someone is funny. Here's a sample of this Pulitzer-caliber work...
Meghan O'Keefe wrote:
Daniel Tosh, however, keeps things silly. He keeps the tone jocular. Tosh wants to inhabit the persona of the likable ne'er-do-well who's your coolest friend. So, when he says "rape jokes are always funny", he's not playing the part of a horrible human being who would think rape jokes are always funny -- he's showing us that the cool, likable guy at the party probably thinks rape is funny... and okay. There's nothing in his tone, writing or presentation that says, "Rape jokes are funny because jokes are funny. Rape itself is wrong."
This is why the Daniel Tosh incident "crossed the line" for so many people. It's not that comics can't cross lines. Comics should say whatever they want. If Tosh honestly thinks rape is funny... well, that's his opinion. That's his worldview. What's disturbing is that this is a worldview that is violent and that lacks empathy. What's even more disturbing is that he's not some unknown comic presenting an unpopular opinion. He's one of the most popular and beloved comic acts in the country. Which means that a huge percentage of our country thinks rape jokes are funny, but not because they admire Jeselnik's wordplay or Silverman's irony or Mulaney's empathetic juxtaposition. They think rape jokes are funny because they think the act of physically hurting and sexually dominating a woman against her will is funny.
And it's not. They're not laughing at a joke. They're laughing at the concept of rape. Rape is disturbing and horrible.
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Again, Tosh wants to be liked. He wants to be popular, and so we circle back to the fact that the problem isn't Daniel Tosh. The problem is that our society is still a rape culture where a large percentage of people think that rape's OK and that a girl in a short skirt is asking for it and that it's funny to assault someone. Not for the sake of satire, but for one person's amusement over another person's real life victimization.
Man there's a lot of pretentious bullshit in there. I think seriously accusing someone of condoning rape is more offensive than obviously joking that someone should rape someone else. But that's not really why I called. George Carlin famously said "I think it's the comic's job to find the line, and then intentionally cross it." I agree with that. O'Keefe clearly doesn't.
What I'm wondering is where the line is for you personally? Is it different when it's a joke being told by a professional comic vs a social setting(Obviously assuming the social setting is conducive to bar humor)? What about here on the CSFMB? I think if people are honest there will be vastly different answers. We already know Don Tiny doesn't have a line. Which is awesome. Where is yours?