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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:14 pm 
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First we get this article.

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Lane Kiffin feels for Bill O'Brien

UNIVERSAL CITY, Calif. -- USC coach Lane Kiffin said there is no way to compare the recent scandals at USC and Penn State and the corresponding sanctions the schools received from the NCAA, but he does sympathize with Nittany Lions coach Bill O'Brien for what he is about to face.

O'Brien, a first-year college head coach, is entering into the same situation Kiffin had to work through during his first season with the Trojans in 2010. USC's juniors and seniors were eligible to transfer then without sitting out a year in what Kiffin termed free agency, and all of Penn State's players are now allowed to do the same.

"I do think the cases are similar in that regard," Kiffin told ESPNLosAngeles.com on Tuesday. "And I do feel for their coaching staff. You're dealing with a head coach who wasn't there and has nothing to do with it and players who weren't there, either."

"They're paying the price even though they had nothing to do with it, which is obviously similar to what we went through."

Penn State was sanctioned on Monday by the NCAA in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky scandal with a $60 million fine, four-year postseason ban and a loss of 80 scholarships over four years, as well as the vacating of wins since 1998 and several other punishments. NCAA president Mark Emmert said the investigation into the university's cover-up of Sandusky's history of sexual abuse revealed "perverse and unconscionable results."

In June 2010, USC received a two-year postseason ban and a loss of 30 scholarships for violations stemming from the Reggie Bush era, among other consequences, with the NCAA ruling the school demonstrated a lack of institutional control over its athletic programs. After a four-year investigation, the NCAA found that Bush received improper benefits while a student-athlete at USC and determined that the Trojans' staff should have been aware of it.

USC is now eligible to play in a bowl game for the first time in Kiffin's tenure and is expected to contend for the national championship. But the Trojans are still being limited by the scholarship punishment and only signed 12 players on National Signing Day in February.

"We can't speak to how these sanctions are going to impact the Penn State program," USC athletic director Pat Haden said in a statement released Monday. "At USC, we found that the most difficult part of our NCAA sanctions has been the reduction of scholarships."

Kiffin said the Penn State situation has made him and his staff more aware of other issues facing modern college football programs. For example, he said, all of the counselors and staff members at each of the Trojans' summer football camps are put through background checks before they're allowed to work with campers.

"We've been doing that for a couple years now, but Penn State brings it back to light and puts some attention on it," Kiffin told ESPNLosAngeles.com.


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Source: USC interested in Silas Redd
By Joe Schad | ESPN

Source: Penn State RB Silas Redd Could Transfer To USC

The NCAA hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and forced the program to vacate all wins dating to 1998. Penn State players are free to transfer without having to sit out. Redd is being told by coaches at various programs that he can play right away. Interested schools, however, must notify Penn State first per NCAA rules.

Redd has met with Penn State coach Bill O'Brien, who sources say has stressed to players that they can still play games and still appear on television.

Some players have concerns about if their teammates will leave and the Nittany Lions' ability to continue to field a winning team, one source said.

Redd, a 5-foot-10, 209-pound junior, ran for 1,241 yards and seven touchdowns last season. He has two years of eligibility remaining.

USC coach Lane Kiffin would not comment on Redd specifically Tuesday during the Pac-12's media day. But Kiffin acknowledged that the Trojans could use help in the backfield.

"Our No. 1 concern is our running back depth," Kiffin said. "We really have to do a good job there developing depth."

Kiffin said he and his staff would need to analyze what any additions would mean to the program, both this season and going forward.

"Yeah, you gotta look at the whole picture and figure the whole thing out," Kiffin told ESPNLosAngeles.com on Tuesday. "We're obviously in a different situation because of limited scholarships.

"We're not gonna give out any details on it, but, yeah, we've looked at everything."

At that point, Kiffin was operating on the belief that the NCAA would allow USC to go over the 75-man scholarship restriction to sign a transfer from Penn State. But, hours later, it was announced that that the Trojans would in fact not be allowed to exceed the limit because of their continuing probation.

Other schools around the country can go over their 85-man limit, but USC cannot. Therefore, in order to actually sign Redd, the Trojans would have to have one of their current players or signees become academically ineligible for the 2012 season, or take a current player from the roster off of a scholarship.

Trojans quarterback Matt Barkley told ESPNLosAngeles.com that he trusts Kiffin and the coaching staff to make the right decision as it applies to the team's chemistry.

The Trojans' captain for a third consecutive season, Barkley also said he would be willing to welcome new teammates.

"I guess it all depends on how well they adapt to USC, but I'm sure our coaching staff is concerned with all that stuff," Barkley told ESPNLosAngeles.com. "They know what the right fit our team would be."

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:37 pm 
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In no way do these articles make him a douchebag.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:38 pm 
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If Lane Kiffin is poaching a player from PSU, then Bernstine should praise him for being against child rape.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:24 pm 
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In no way do these articles make him a douchebag.


Agreed.

Plenty of other things do, but not this.

He says in the first article that he understands what O'Brien is dealing with. In the second it mentions him trying to help his team.

What's wrong with that?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:08 am 
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Don't feel sorry for Bill O'Brien. He'd never be anywhere close to a job like this under normal circumstances and when he is fired/quits in a few years he'll have enough name recognition to land a decent job again.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:48 pm 
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So is Groce:


http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... -recruited

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Well Groce is the basketball coach so I think he's OK there.

But in any event, the NCAA implicitly invited recruitment of Penn State players through how they structured the penalties. Hate the game, not the player.

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I hope that my coach is calling up any player on PSU he can and trying to get him.

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I hope that my coach is calling up any player on PSU he can and trying to get him.

Purdue isn't going to end up with any PSU players just the old Paterno statue

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Well Groce is the basketball coach so I think he's OK there.

But in any event, the NCAA implicitly invited recruitment of Penn State players through how they structured the penalties. Hate the game, not the player.

My apologies, I could not remember who it was. I don't have a problem with it, just trying to point out to Scorehead. I fucked that up though.

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Current Trojan would give up scholarship to make room for Redd
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Exactly one week after NCAA sanctions against Penn State were announced and his name was first connected to USC, current Nittany Lions running back Silas Redd is expected to make a decision in short order as to his football future.

If as all the signs seem to indicate that he will head out west to continue his playing career, one current Trojans player would (grudgingly) take one for the team and make room for the talented back.

While not identified by the Orange County Register, the unnamed player told the paper that, if asked by the coaching staff, he would give up his scholarship in order to provide room on USC’s roster for Redd. Because of its own NCAA sanctions, the Trojans are limited to 75 scholarship players this season; the Register writes that, based on its tally, the Trojans are right at that 75-man limit and would need to create roster space to add Redd.

The player, a former walk-on, used words like “heartbroken” to describe having to give up the scholarship he earned, but would understand if it comes to that.

The player said he would be “heartbroken” if it came to that because he had worked so hard to earn the scholarship. However, when the player initially received it, Kiffin explained that it was a year-to-year deal and that the player might have to give it back if USC’s roster limitations left no other recourse.

Although losing his scholarship would be a source of frustration, the player said he would remain with the squad. “I love this team,” he said.

The player said he understood the current situation regarding Redd and how his addition would improve the team’s chances to win the national championship. While hopeful of keeping his scholarship, the player would be willing to sacrifice it if absolutely necessary. I found his team-first approach to a potentially unpleasant situation admirable.

The Philadelphia Inquirer reported earlier today that a decision from Redd is expected Monday. However, Redd’s hometown newspaper, the Hartford Hour, reports that no decision is expected until Tuesday at the earliest. Redd is currently headed back to the East Coast and will spend the day Tuesday talking over his decision with family and friends.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:41 am 
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Who cares? He was a walk-on who was given a scholarship. This is a standard thing for walk-ons and it happens all around the country. He should be thankful he got free school for a year or two.

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Redd to USC.

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