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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:30 am 
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Everybody is armed in Texas.


Not everyone is armed in Texas.



Have you ever been to Texas? I have. My grandparents lived in El Paso when I was a yout. My father and grandfather taught my brother and I how to shoot handguns in the desert. They both served our country in the US Army at Fort Bliss in El Paso, TX.

According to this site, Texans own roughly 20% of the guns in the USA, despite having 8% of the population. I stand by my previous statement.

http://texaslesstraveled.com/gunrights.htm

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Chus wrote:
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Everybody is armed in Texas.


Not everyone is armed in Texas.



Have you ever been to Texas? I have. My grandparents lived in El Paso when I was a yout. My father and grandfather taught my brother and I how to shoot handguns in the desert. They both served our country in the US Army at Fort Bliss in El Paso, TX.

According to this site, Texans own roughly 20% of the guns in the USA, despite having 8% of the population. I stand by my previous statement.

http://texaslesstraveled.com/gunrights.htm


So, not everyone in Texas is armed? Strange.


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 Post subject: Re: Texas A&M shooting
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Everybody is armed in Texas.


Not everyone is armed in Texas.



Have you ever been to Texas? I have. My grandparents lived in El Paso when I was a yout. My father and grandfather taught my brother and I how to shoot handguns in the desert. They both served our country in the US Army at Fort Bliss in El Paso, TX.

According to this site, Texans own roughly 20% of the guns in the USA, despite having 8% of the population. I stand by my previous statement.

http://texaslesstraveled.com/gunrights.htm


So, not everyone in Texas is armed? Strange.


Since you clearly didn't read that article, I will tell you what it said. There are roughly 51 million guns owned by 24 million people.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas A&M shooting
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Since you clearly didn't read that article, I will tell you what it said. There are roughly 51 million guns owned by 24 million people.


So you're saying that every single person in Texas owns a firearm?


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 Post subject: Re: Texas A&M shooting
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Since you clearly didn't read that article, I will tell you what it said. There are roughly 51 million guns owned by 24 million people.


So you're saying that every single person in Texas owns a firearm?


Texas has the most guns, and the most gun owners. I'm not going to argue semantics with you.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas A&M shooting
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Since you clearly didn't read that article, I will tell you what it said. There are roughly 51 million guns owned by 24 million people.


So you're saying that every single person in Texas owns a firearm?


Texas has the most guns, and the most gun owners. I'm not going to argue semantics with you.


But the shooting happened in a "Gun Free Zone" did it not?


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Everybody is armed in Texas. I thought this sort of thing won't happen if everyone is armed?


This is a joke post, right?

Not everyone is armed in Texas.

And not everyone is armed on the campus of Texas A&M. And I'm pretty sure that the shooting happened in a "Gun Free Zone."

I also await the misinformation and poor reporting that will follow this. Should be fun on the boob tube for the next few days.




If I had to guess at which state has the highest % of citizens that own a gun ...Texas would be number 1..followed by Alaska

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Everybody is armed in Texas. I thought this sort of thing won't happen if everyone is armed?


This is a joke post, right?

Not everyone is armed in Texas.

And not everyone is armed on the campus of Texas A&M. And I'm pretty sure that the shooting happened in a "Gun Free Zone."

I also await the misinformation and poor reporting that will follow this. Should be fun on the boob tube for the next few days.




If I had to guess at which state has the highest % of citizens that own a gun ...Texas would be number 1..followed by Alaska


That's great but I was responding to the original claim that "everyone is armed in Texas." There is nothing semantical about it, either everyone is armed or they aren't.


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Since you clearly didn't read that article, I will tell you what it said. There are roughly 51 million guns owned by 24 million people.


So you're saying that every single person in Texas owns a firearm?


Texas has the most guns, and the most gun owners. I'm not going to argue semantics with you.


But the shooting happened in a "Gun Free Zone" did it not?


What's your point? I have made my position on this issue very clear. I side with the gun owners, and the 2nd amendment.

I made a point about guns in Texas, and your antennae went up. My point was that there are more guns in Texas than anywhere else. Obviously, I didn't mean that every 2 year old, and every 95 year old are packing. I provided facts to back up what I said, and you wanted to argue semantics.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas A&M shooting
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I don't think stating that the shooting happened in a "Gun Free Zone" is semantics.

Arguing about the % of gun ownership in Texas definitely is.


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I said that there were more guns in Texas, than anywhere else. The article backs that up. You didn't argue the facts behind my point, but rather you focused on my use of the term "everyone".

That is the very definition of a semantic argument.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas A&M shooting
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I don't think stating that the shooting happened in a "Gun Free Zone" is semantics.

Arguing about the % of gun ownership in Texas definitely is.



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I said that there were more guns in Texas, than anywhere else. The article backs that up. You didn't argue the facts behind my point, but rather you focused on my use of the term "everyone".

That is the very definition of a semantic argument.


I was agreeing with you.


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 Post subject: Re: Texas A&M shooting
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I don't think the % of gun owners in TX is relevant at all in this situation.

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Sure it is...the knee jerk reaction from the NRA and some supporters is someone else should have been armed and prevented some of this.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas A&M shooting
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Sure it is...the knee jerk reaction from the NRA and some supporters is someone else should have been armed and prevented some of this.

No it is not relevant. Stay on topic. I don't care about the NRA.

1.) Gun Free Zone. Everyone keeps ignoring that point. Sorta renders the whole "Everyone in TX is armed so they shoulda/coulda/woulda shot back" argument obsolete.

2.) This started with him shooting a Constable and then very soon after that LEOs showed up. Even if every civilian in the neighborhood was a marine recon sniper, they weren't allowed to interfere with live police action.

Anyone on either side bringing up gun control in this situation is misguided.

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Maybe this guy should have sold his guns if he was on the verge of being evicted from his apartment....

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Sure it is...the knee jerk reaction from the NRA and some supporters is someone else should have been armed and prevented some of this.

No it is not relevant. Stay on topic. I don't care about the NRA.

1.) Gun Free Zone. Everyone keeps ignoring that point. Sorta renders the whole "Everyone in TX is armed so they shoulda/coulda/woulda shot back" argument obsolete.

2.) This started with him shooting a Constable and then very soon after that LEOs showed up. Even if every civilian in the neighborhood was a marine recon sniper, they weren't allowed to interfere with live police action.

Anyone on either side bringing up gun control in this situation is misguided.


I wasn't ignoring it! I broached the damn subject!


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Sure it is...the knee jerk reaction from the NRA and some supporters is someone else should have been armed and prevented some of this.

No it is not relevant. Stay on topic. I don't care about the NRA.

1.) Gun Free Zone. Everyone keeps ignoring that point. Sorta renders the whole "Everyone in TX is armed so they shoulda/coulda/woulda shot back" argument obsolete.

2.) This started with him shooting a Constable and then very soon after that LEOs showed up. Even if every civilian in the neighborhood was a marine recon sniper, they weren't allowed to interfere with live police action.

Anyone on either side bringing up gun control in this situation is misguided.


I wasn't ignoring it! I broached the damn subject!

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It's early. I actually meant to say SomeGuy's point, not that point. Please accept the belated props

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 Post subject: Re: Texas A&M shooting
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Maybe this guy should have sold his guns if he was on the verge of being evicted from his apartment....

So you're saying he was clinging to his guns?

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Maybe this guy should have sold his guns if he was on the verge of being evicted from his apartment....

So you're saying he was clinging to his guns?


He seemed bitter.

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Maybe this guy should have sold his guns if he was on the verge of being evicted from his apartment....

So you're saying he was clinging to his guns?


He seemed bitter.

Well he's dead now. So hopefully he also clung to a religion that gave him an afterlife that doesn't involve hell for bad people.

Wait, does that actually exist? Because it should. Maybe I'll start one and recruit everyone from the Drinky Board. I could even rename...

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 Post subject: Re: Texas A&M shooting
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I don't think the % of gun owners in TX is relevant at all in this situation.


It is when my initial post was making fun of the gun nuts who say these things don't happen where everybody is packing heat. Colorado and Texas both have very gun friendly laws.

On the flip side, the gun control nuts look foolish when there are many shootings in big cities with strict gun laws, like Chicago or New York. Making guns illegal doesn't eliminate guns.

This issue, more than most, seems to have many extremists on both sides, and they all look very silly.

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I don't think the % of gun owners in TX is relevant at all in this situation.


It is when my initial post was making fun of the gun nuts who say these things don't happen where everybody is packing heat. Colorado and Texas both have very gun friendly laws.

On the flip side, the gun control nuts look foolish when there are many shootings in big cities with strict gun laws, like Chicago or New York. Making guns illegal doesn't eliminate guns.

This issue, more than most, seems to have many extremists on both sides, and they all look very silly.

But this isn't close to the Colorado situation, as I explained. I don't think a Gun Free Zone has very gun friendly laws, and he was shooting at cops and cops were already involved from the start. It would be illegal for a civilian to jump in the scene and take him out, even if he was capable of doing that and it wasnt a gun free zone. I dont disagree with your overall point, I just don't think it applies at all here.

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Maybe this guy should have sold his guns if he was on the verge of being evicted from his apartment....

He couldn't hit the target on his sale price. Just couldn't pull the trigger on the deal.

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Maybe this guy should have sold his guns if he was on the verge of being evicted from his apartment....

He couldn't hit the target on his sale price. Just couldn't pull the trigger on the deal.


Yeah, we got the joke the first time you posted it.


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