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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:00 pm 
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Got a guy that said that saying that he's hearing rumors that Verlander and Prince may have got caught with high levels of testosterone, too.

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Got a guy that said that saying that he's hearing rumors that Verlander and Prince may have got caught with high levels of testosterone, too.


That would be too bad, if true. I've always thought they were both legit.


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Interesting. If true, something has changed in the way MLB is conducting tests. Maybe the Braun thing pissed some people off and now they are tightening up the testing process. What that tightening amounts to I am not sure.


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Hmmm...BALCO founder Victor Conte was a guest on Comcast SportsNet's "Chicago Tribune Live" last night. He wouldn't name any names, but Conte thinks there might be another big time MLB player that could get busted for failing such a test in the wake of the Giants' Melky Cabrera and now the A's Bartolo Colon getting caught.

That being said, MLB should stiffen such penalties. The MLB drug policy lacks teeth unlike other sports. 50 games seems like nothing for a pitcher.


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Hmmm...BALCO founder Victor Conte was a guest on Comcast SportsNet's "Chicago Tribune Live" last night. He wouldn't name any names, but Conte thinks there might be another big time MLB player that could get busted for failing such a test in the wake of the Giants' Melky Cabrera and now the A's Bartolo Colon getting caught.

That being said, MLB should stiffen such penalties. The MLB drug policy lacks teeth unlike other sports. 50 games seems like nothing for a pitcher.


Conte is so dirty, its entertaining. The guy is obviously still giving guys roids, but is just more open about it. MLB has made sure to suspend these guys after the AS break to basically ensure they are done for the rest of the season and playoffs. Pretty crippling to their teams really. Unfortunately, it seems to punish the fans more than the player.


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When will AJ fail his test....? You have to wonder.

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When will AJ fail his test....? You have to wonder.

That would kind of suck. Much like Prince and Verlander, I wouldn't want to see it happen to him.


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When will AJ fail his test....? You have to wonder.

You just never know. Before he took off on vacation, Bernsy had suspicions on Angels' rookie standout Mike Trout being on the juice.


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How sad is it that we are right back to pre-steroid report speculation? I fucking hate this sport. Everyone is in play I guess. Trout? Sure, why not.

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How sad is it that we are right back to pre-steroid report speculation? I fucking hate this sport. Everyone is in play I guess. Trout? Sure, why not.

It also makes me wonder about that day on Capitol Hill where Sammy Sosa, Rafael Palmeiro, Mark McGwire & Jose Canseco, if memory served, all testified in front of Congress.


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What do you wonder about....yeah they were all there?

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I don't see more capitol hill fun coming. I think they truly have improved testing. The numbers have been down for the most part.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
I don't see more capitol hill fun coming. I think they truly have improved testing. The numbers have been down for the most part.

I don't think we'll see MLB testifying again on Capitol Hill anytime soon, but I wonder what really came out of that infamous hearing.


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Someone tweeted this rumor today now everyone is re-tweeting it.


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The Tigers' Miguel Cabrera just left their game vs. the Blue Jays this afternoon. Ramon Santiago now playing 3B. Hmmm...


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That would suck for my fantasy team. I'm gonna lose Strasburg for the playoffs, I'd be dead if I lost Verlander too.

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This is great news...

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That would suck for my fantasy team. I'm gonna lose Strasburg for the playoffs, I'd be dead if I lost Verlander too.

And along those lines, I heard something today that the Nationals appear hell bent on shutting Stephen Strasburg down, perhaps after the next couple of starts.


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Miggie just pulled from the game in the 2nd. Hmmmmmmmm :?:

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Miggie just pulled from the game in the 2nd. Hmmmmmmmm :?:

The initial word is right ankle soreness. Cabrera's like the rest of us...Day to day.


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Why do teams get to keep playing guys after they have been informed of a failed drug test? The Giants new about Cabrera so they traded for Pence.

I would think knowingly playing a guy who is cheating is the same as cheating. Teams should have to vacate all wins that a player has played in after they were informed of a failed test.


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This Twitter thing is like a bad game of telephone.


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Why do teams get to keep playing guys after they have been informed of a failed drug test? The Giants new about Cabrera so they traded for Pence.

I would think knowingly playing a guy who is cheating is the same as cheating. Teams should have to vacate all wins that a player has played in after they were informed of a failed test.

I think CBSSports.com's Gregg Doyel suggested something along those lines in a column right after Melky got busted by MLB for a failed drug test. He's so pissed about Melky, he thinks the Giants should pay the price for looking the other way...

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/1981 ... pay-for-it


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
That would suck for my fantasy team. I'm gonna lose Strasburg for the playoffs, I'd be dead if I lost Verlander too.



Fuck your fantasy team, Frank. We need the Sox to win this division!

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
That would suck for my fantasy team. I'm gonna lose Strasburg for the playoffs, I'd be dead if I lost Verlander too.



Fuck your fantasy team, Frank. We need the Sox to win this division!


Yeah, Frank....go suck a wang!

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But Prince has always been big!

Guys that have always been big are automatically immune from suspicion. It's been agreed.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
That would suck for my fantasy team. I'm gonna lose Strasburg for the playoffs, I'd be dead if I lost Verlander too.



Fuck your fantasy team, Frank. We need the Sox to win this division!

This.

I've never been a big fantasy sports guy but I'm guessing you'd rather see a division title, at least, then win your fantasy league for one season, right? Unless its a pretty damn big purse to the winner.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
That would suck for my fantasy team. I'm gonna lose Strasburg for the playoffs, I'd be dead if I lost Verlander too.



Fuck your fantasy team, Frank. We need the Sox to win this division!

This.

I've never been a big fantasy sports guy but I'm guessing you'd rather see a division title, at least, then win your fantasy league for one season, right? Unless its a pretty damn big purse to the winner.


I joined a league this year with an $1,800 first place. Biggest purse I've ever had for a fantasy league. Would love to take that home!

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If they're going to take down Prince and Verlander, they'd better take down Pujols. And I'm not real certain about Alex Rios either.

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Yeah, Frank....go suck a wang!

Go White Sox!


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