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Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears could have won Super Bowl XLVI

By Elliot Harrison
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Published: Aug. 27, 2012 at 11:39 a.m. Updated: Aug. 27, 2012 at 02:35 p.m. 6 Likes | 29 Comments
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Jay Cutler and his Chicago Bears teammates walked off the grass at Soldier Field on Nov. 20 with what seemed to be the whole world in front of them ... or, at least, the whole NFC. Chicago had just finished off the San Diego Chargers for its fifth victory in a row, giving the Bears a 7-3 record and command of a wild-card spot. Everyone was all smiles, particularly head coach Lovie Smith.

Well, everyone except Cutler. Unlike the rest of America, he knew something was wrong. Fans and football hacks were already starting to look forward to Week 16, when the Green Bay Packers figured to present the red-hot Bears with their next serious challenge. However, by the time that late-December showdown rolled around, Chicago was all but out of the playoff race.

Few knew it in the immediate aftermath of that big triumph over the Chargers, but Cutler was already carrying the reason for the Bears' forthcoming implosion on his person.

What could have been ...

A broken finger might not sound like much, but when it's on your throwing hand and you're an NFL quarterback, forget it. It's more of a deal-breaker than a gal telling you she used to date Mario Lopez.

Throwing the ball with a broken digit is hard enough. Taking the snap from the center is another matter. A pinky injury derailed Tony Romo and the Dallas Cowboys in 2008. Ditto for Kurt Warner and the St. Louis Rams in 2002 and 2003, when a broken pinky and thumb helped bring the curtain down on the "Greatest Show on Turf." Warner's "small" injuries also, incidentally, helped lead to his ultimate departure and Marc Bulger's emergence in St. Louis.

So while that November trouncing of San Diego initially seemed to mark a high point of the Bears' season, the news that Cutler had had broken his right thumb in the fourth quarter spelled doom for Chicago.

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Cutler's injury meant the Bears would be going down the stretch -- or, as it turned out, just plain going down -- with Caleb Hanie at quarterback. The Bears needed their starter, just as the Cowboys and Rams needed Romo and Warner.

Chicago had been playing lights-out before an MRI turned the lights out on Cutler's 2011 campaign. Consider these numbers from the Bears' five-game winning streak:

» The Bears outscored their opponents, 161-85.
» Cutler threw just three picks, while the club's turnover differential was a stout plus-eight.
» Chicago averaged nearly 32 minutes in time of possession.
» Opposing quarterbacks posted a 62.7 passer rating.
» Cutler was sacked just once per game.

The last stat might be the most telling. Much of Cutler's mediocre early-season performance could be blamed on the fact that he had been running for his life. When Mike Martz, the offensive coordinator at the time, finally decided to start protecting Cutler, the quarterback started making big plays -- completing 10 passes of 25 yards or more during the five-game win streak -- and cutting down on his mistakes.

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Cutler was finally free to play ball, and the Bears' defense, buoyed by a couple of new starters at safety, was more than doing its part. Chicago was poised to seriously challenge a Packers team that couldn't stop anybody, even with Aaron Rodgers and his Tecmo Bowl numbers.

Stats aren't everything, and in Cutler's case, winning out or going 12-4 might have netted him an MVP award and resulted in an Offensive Player of the Year nod for Rodgers. Moreover, he could have pushed the Bears to make noise in the postseason. Remember, the 9-7 New York Giants went on to win it all; the Bears, who were a much stronger defensive team, certainly could have pulled off a similar feat if Cutler had been healthy.


Cutler's value is made even clearer by the fact that he was able to put his team in control of a postseason berth despite missing offensive linemen Gabe Carimi and Chris Williams, and despite a lack of playmakers on the outside. (If you considered Roy Williams a playmaker, then you might have actually thought Gigli was going to be awesome when it was released.)

What wasn't awesome is what happened after Cutler went down for the count. Hanie put together a string of turnover fests, first in Oakland (three picks and a loss), then against Kansas City (three picks, a fumble, and a loss), and finally against Seattle (three picks and a loss). Even Josh McCown got into the act, adding an interception of his own -- on just two attempts -- during the 38-14 defeat against Seattle.

Here's a look at how Hanie and McCown performed over the final six games of the Bears' season:

Opponent 2011 Def. Ranking Bears' TD-INT Ratio Bears' Passer Rating Outcome
at Raiders 29 2:3 56.9 Loss
Chiefs 11 0:3 23.8 Loss
at Broncos 20 0:0 79.9 Loss
Seahawks 9 1:4 33.0 Loss
at Packers 32 1:2 76.8 Loss
at Vikings 21 1:1 75.4 Win
Totals 20.3* 5:13 51.1 1-5
* Average defensive ranking
With Cutler, the Bears had been out-producing their opponents by a healthy margin. In their first five games without him, they were killed, 121-68. Chicago went from 7-3 and screaming toward a Christmas showdown with the Packers to 7-8 and sputtering out of Wisconsin -- and the playoffs.

Yes, an injury to running back Matt Forte hurt badly (although he likely could have returned in time for the postseason). And yes, there are more positions on the field than Cutler's. But there is no mistaking the 180-degree turn that the Bears made the moment No. 6 went down.

2012 outlook

So what does all this mean for 2012? Chicago has as good as shot as any squad to come out on top in the NFC. Cutler is healthy. So is Forte. Young safeties Major Wright and Chris Conte, pressed into duty last year, are now full-time starters. Receiver Brandon Marshall has bolstered the weakest position group on the club, and running back Michael Bush gives the club a great complement to Forte.

And yet, as good as the improved Bears figure to be, remember that they might have won it all a year ago, if not for a little thumb injury.


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I have a feeling Zach Zaidman will be using a lot of this material.


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Enigma, mrgoodkat, and RFDC are going to frame this and put it in the "I love Cutler" room they have all created.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Enigma, mrgoodkat, and RFDC are going to frame this and put it in the "I love Cutler" room they have all created.


Already done :)

How is the "I love Orton" room doing?


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enigma wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Enigma, mrgoodkat, and RFDC are going to frame this and put it in the "I love Cutler" room they have all created.


Already done :)

How is the "I love Orton" room doing?

It does well in Septemeber and Ocotober, but he'll probalby redo it with a better player before having people over for the holidays.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Enigma, mrgoodkat, and RFDC are going to frame this and put it in the "I love Cutler" room they have all created.


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enigma wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Enigma, mrgoodkat, and RFDC are going to frame this and put it in the "I love Cutler" room they have all created.


Already done :)

How is the "I love Orton" room doing?
Orton failed to meet my expectations. I have accepted that.

One day you'll do the same for Cutler.

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You really despise Cutler don't you?

My expectations for Cutler are reasonable. I hope Cutler improves but even if Cutler just stays where he is at, he is still a pretty good QB and the Bears have had some success the last two years. Plus he is not a complete failure unlike the myriad of first round picks we have spent on QBs over the past 30 years.

It seems to me that unless Cutler performs like Brees, Brady or Rodgers, you, BR, will label Cutler a failure. Do I have this right?

Seems you have very lofty and maybe unrealistic expectations.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
enigma wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Enigma, mrgoodkat, and RFDC are going to frame this and put it in the "I love Cutler" room they have all created.


Already done :)

How is the "I love Orton" room doing?
Orton failed to meet my expectations. I have accepted that.

One day you'll do the same for Cutler.


Come on Brick. You know the Bears QB history, the 40 or so lousy QB's & all. I view Cutler relative to every other Bears QB, & I see a guy who is the best Bears QB that I have seen in my lifetime. Hiring Mike Martz was the absolute worst thing the Bears could have done for Jay. I believe the next few years will be good ones for Jay. If not, Bears fans will turn on Jay like every other QB & the Jason Campbell chants will begin.

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Campbell's numbers are very similar to Cutlers


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It was a joke.

I will be disappointed if Cutler stays where he is given the huge amount of money he's been paid, the major cost to acquire him, and how multiple players his age and younger have surpassed him.

I don't think he's a failure. Kevin Kolb is a failure. Tim Tebow is a failure. Gabbert and Ponder are probably going to be failures.

I just forsee a future where Cutler is perpetually the 10th to 12th best QB in the league. That's better than where we were with Orton and Grossman and everyone else, but in a league where elite QB's win titles the Bears won't have one.

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Come on Brick. You know the Bears QB history, the 40 or so lousy QB's & all. I view Cutler relative to every other Bears QB, & I see a guy who is the best Bears QB that I have seen in my lifetime. Hiring Mike Martz was the absolute worst thing the Bears could have done for Jay. I believe the next few years will be good ones for Jay. If not, Bears fans will turn on Jay like every other QB & the Jason Campbell chants will begin.
I've said it before, but "not being Kyle Orton" isn't exactly a reason to be ecstatic about the Bears QB position.

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It was a joke.

I will be disappointed if Cutler stays where he is given the huge amount of money he's been paid, the major cost to acquire him, and how multiple players his age and younger have surpassed him.

I don't think he's a failure. Kevin Kolb is a failure. Tim Tebow is a failure. Gabbert and Ponder are probably going to be failures.

I just forsee a future where Cutler is perpetually the 10th to 12th best QB in the league. That's better than where we were with Orton and Grossman and everyone else, but in a league where elite QB's win titles the Bears won't have one.


I understand where you are coming from, don't necesarily agree, but i get it.

Do you consider Eli to be elite, so thats why he won titles...... or do you consider Eli elite because he won titles.

I look at Eli's regular season numbers and they are comparable to Cutler's, so in my view Eli is not elite because of his regular season numbers but what he has done in the Giants two title runs.

Isn't reasonable to assume even if Cutler does not become Brady or Rodgers they can still win SB with Cutler?


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I look at Eli's regular season numbers and they are comparable to Cutler's, so in my view Eli is not elite because of his regular season numbers but what he has done in the Giants two title runs.
Not the last 3 years.

Eli has been elite(or close enough to elite to be in the discussion) the last few years and cemented his spot last year.
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Isn't reasonable to assume even if Cutler does not become Brady or Rodgers they can still win SB with Cutler?
It's possible, but with the way the NFL is going it seems unlikely.

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BRick....I don't think the Bears gave up much to get him. Anytime they want to trade picks for a Proven commodity, that's fine with me. It's becoming painfully obvious that this team cannot build a sustainably successful team by drafting.


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You really despise Cutler don't you?

My expectations for Cutler are reasonable. I hope Cutler improves but even if Cutler just stays where he is at, he is still a pretty good QB and the Bears have had some success the last two years. Plus he is not a complete failure unlike the myriad of first round picks we have spent on QBs over the past 30 years.

It seems to me that unless Cutler performs like Brees, Brady or Rodgers, you, BR, will label Cutler a failure. Do I have this right?

Seems you have very lofty and maybe unrealistic expectations.


Agreed. Given his ability, I once had visions of Elway for Cutler. I have tampered those expectations a bit, but I still consider him Top Ten and capable of winning a Super Bowl given the right circumstances. This is far better than anything we've had before. If the Bears hadn't made that deal, I don't think they're as good as they are now.

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IT looks like the Offense might have to carry the defense this season to some point.

ANd we may have an offense for once in my lifetime, my dad's lifetime. my grandpas lifetime that might be able to do it.


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Bears D will be fine.

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Bears D will be fine.


What do base that on?

An injured MLB, an avg set of CBs, a bad set of S, a d-line with only one proven pass rusher. These are a recipe for an awful defense.

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Bears D will be fine.


What do base that on?

An injured MLB, an avg set of CBs, a bad set of S, a d-line with only one proven pass rusher. These are a recipe for an awful defense.


Trust in Lovie.

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