Yeah, it doesn't pass the eye test.

Mac is just pissed cause he lost $200.

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Awesome that both of these bad rule/good call situations have benefited the BEARS!

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To have control you have to maintain control to the ground. Tate has his hands on the ball before they both go to the ground. This is different than if the Packers guy catches the ball and goes to the ground and then Tate gets his hands in there. When they hit the ground the Packers guy is squirming around. If he has complete control of the ball why is he not stationary?

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Yep

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That's true, but it wouldn't be the first time that a referee has not called a penalty on the last play of a game.

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Pick me!

Is anyone really surprised that the result of the game won't be overturned? Goodell would have never taken that hit to his image.

It's a dumb rule that unfortunately goes against what everyone who saw the play "sees". As a fan of the sport, this rule needs to be overhauled to eliminate the grey area.

There was no gray area. The Packers guy has to maintain complete control as he goes to the ground. Tate got his hand in there before he went to the ground and he gained a portion of possession when both players reached the ground. For it to be an interception the Packers guy has to control the ball to the ground and can't let Tate get any portion of the ball. The Packers guy did not complete the catch and because of the tie going to the receiving team it's a touchdown.

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How many fucking times are you going to type the same fucking thing, loose the god damn keyboard already. We get your fucking point!!!

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Please, just stop. Just stop.

Your picture just proves the correct call was made according to the way the rules are written.

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The picture shows that Tate has his hand on the ball. Because of the rule the intercepting team can't have the ball if Tate has his hand on the ball before the catch is completed when both players go to the ground. The Packers player must have 100 percent control of the ball. Tate is only required to have a portion of control over the ball.

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So by that logic, if an offensive player has a single hand on the ball while the defensive player has BOTH ARMS WRAPPED AROUND THE BALL and both players are in the endzone, it's a touchdown?

No where does it conclusively show a hand on the ball. It shows an arm around Jennings shoulder. Case closed. Pick. /thread.

You need to look at your picture again. It shows a Tate's wrist and forearm on the ball.

TD. You lose. Ha. Ha. Ha.

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Remember that Tate can gain control at any point during the play until the catch is completed. The Packers guy has to catch the ball and keep it all the way till he gets to the ground and completes the catch. Tate gets his hand in there before the catch is completed. It's not a catch if Tate has any form of a hand on the ball before the catch is completed. For the Packers to receive possession the Packers guy has to catch the ball and maintain complete control until he reaches the ground. In the event of both guys having hands on the ball the Seahawks keep the ball.

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And if that is the way the rule is meant to be understood, then it is a stupid rule saturated with gray.

Yes, that is what we are talking about.

Correct. Rule, bad. Call, correct. Packers, last place; http://www.nfl.com/standings


And only now, /thread

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Game one: Loss to SF with very little offense
Game Two: Get 4 Interceptions, Score two TDS
Game Three: 8 sacks before halftime


They havent played a solid game yet, have they?

Nope. But like I said, they were playing 3 of the best defenses in the NFL. I'm concerned about it. I'm not in panic mode.

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Game two is the definition of "solid". But, no, they have not played up to the Packer standard. Luckily, three games don't make a season and the offense has a history of success.

I see.

I guess its like CGS said

Its good that its the O struggling, and not the D, because you have more confidence in the O getting it together

Disagree. Should have blown em out with all the Turnovers and miscues of the Bears.

I was assuming you were only discussing the offense here. If you are taking into account entire team performance, I agree Game 2 was solid. The defense played outstanding. The defense played very well last night too, but Seattle is limited in what they can do offensively and it took the coaching staff far too long to start using the running game to counteract those pass rushers.

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Portion of arm on top of the ball is contact, not control. Unless velcro or maple syrup is involved.

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Agreed. I think most people see that.

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That is not what the rule book states though

If you are going by common sense, yes. NFL rulebook, no.